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2015-09-23 at 5:05 PM UTC
Rizzo sent IWD's gigantic meth posts to the University that IWD was going to attend, and got his application denied as a result and had to settle for online college instead.
That's the story I've heard too, but is it really true? Like I kinda doubt a university could even find someone's application by name for discrimination concerns, and even if they could I don't think they would really give a shit about some methposting (or be able to verify the posts in question were actually authored by the proposed applicant).
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2015-09-23 at 7:19 PM UTC
I don't, any chance you have a wayback machine link to it? I'd love to read it, I've definitely had that particular experience and would love to hear what your reaction was.
Probably won't be able to find it unless I could find a link to the original thread, which I don't think I'll be able to either.
It's nice to look through the archive, found some interesting/amusing BLTC threads:
Does anyone regret doing acid?
http://web.archive.org/web/201409150...d.php?t=182485
Do you regret trying heroin?
http://web.archive.org/web/201409120...d.php?t=190269
The first time you did opiates, did you think you were "hooked"?
http://web.archive.org/web/201409230...d.php?t=138321
LSD use and it's potential negative side effects?
http://web.archive.org/web/20140921041012/https://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=164448
What is it like to shoot Herion?
http://web.archive.org/web/20140926001752/http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=233820Why haven't you tried again? Sure it can be scary or uncomfortable sometimes but it seems like you understand the objective lack of risk and what you stand to gain. It's not like you back out once and can never go back, you know something now that you didn't before. Come join me in exploring the mysteries of the universe or your mind or some shit. It's dumb essentialist thinking like that will fuck up a good trip, no door is closed to you if only you can learn to be unafraid.
Because I'm a dysfunctional trainwreck and it would take too long to explain why. I don't have a particularly good reason for putting off relatively minor things for months. All I need to do is order some etizolam and that's it. ... Alright, I'm doing it, I think! I'll try to do it today unless I can think of a good reason to delay myself again.
May buy some more DMT as well, along with the ingredients for changa, which is pretty simple to make. Syrian rue of b. caapi are the main items used, they're short acting, particularly when smoked/vaporized, and are used for this property: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revers...mine_oxidase_A
From what I've read b. caapi seems to be the better choice. Changa seems to be the best way to use DMT, the reports I've read are very positive. It extends the trip and slows it down, which is very beneficial for getting more out of the experience due to the nature of DMT (Generally an extremely intense and rapid psychedelic experience), and also alters the quality. IIRC it generally makes it significantly more positive as well, I can't remember. The reports on it are pretty interesting and will refresh my memory on how the experience differs from pure freebase.
BTW, are you still planning to grow shrooms? Unless you want to do it to enjoy the experience, it is pretty cool to see your first shrooms grow, it might be better to buy 4-AcO-DMT. It will probably give you the same or a very similar experience, and will also better allow you to control the dosage, since the alkaloid content of shrooms can vary a lot.
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/4-AcO-DMT
It's been very well received, people on Zokle who tried it loved it. I think I remember Gun Lover writing very highly about it, how he now considered it his favorite psychedelic or the one he recommended for everyone's first psychedelic experience. There's a distinct difference in the experience between the LSD and psilocin families, I'd love to know what differences you experience and what you prefer about each one. Even compared to high dose LSD trips, you may be in a for a very pleasant surprise
McKenna described the differences between the hallucinations produced by LSD and psilocybin like this:
“An acid hallucination is a little fan-shaped thing … blips back and forth.
… a psilocybin hallucination is MGM Grand. …
Probably an exaggeration, but I think I have read many people reporting that they don't have very significant hallucinations on LSD, it being more of an introspective psychoanalytical experience. Even if you think the visuals you've had are pretty strong, it could simply push it even further than that. -
2015-09-23 at 8:34 PM UTCI remember ordering like 120mg or so of 4-aco-dmt from smokeyschemsite, I took it all over the course of a few hours because small doses didn't do shit. After all that 120 or whatever judging by other peoples reports I shouldve been VERY VERY high but I felt nothing. Nothing at all. I don't fucking get it.
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2015-09-23 at 8:59 PM UTC
I remember ordering like 120mg or so of 4-aco-dmt from smokeyschemsite, I took it all over the course of a few hours because small doses didn't do shit. After all that 120 or whatever judging by other peoples reports I shouldve been VERY VERY high but I felt nothing. Nothing at all. I don't fucking get it.
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2015-09-23 at 10:33 PM UTCYeah, most likely. also got bk-2cb from them a while after which I certainly felt, but only in the form of very very extreme full body zaps while laying down with eyes closed/music and some mood lift/subtle plasma sensation. Probably cause back then I was taking likr 100mg-150 of tramadol a day
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2015-09-23 at 10:45 PM UTCthat's what you get ordering from a place called 'smokeys chem site'
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2015-09-23 at 11:12 PM UTC
Yeah, most likely. also got bk-2cb from them a while after which I certainly felt, but only in the form of very very extreme full body zaps while laying down with eyes closed/music and some mood lift/subtle plasma sensation. Probably cause back then I was taking likr 100mg-150 of tramadol a day
I don't usually do hallucinogens because i fucking hate the effects most of the time, so i never combined them with opiates and certainly not tramadol. But from what i read, if you take a regular opiate with hallucinogens you alternate between the effects of one and the other. The weirdness with the 2c whatever the fuck you had was probably due to tramadol messing with binding of the hallucinogen at 5-HT2A/C due to it's effects as monoamine re-uptake inhibitor. -
2015-09-24 at 12:01 AM UTC
that's what you get ordering from a place called 'smokeys chem site'
Try finding a US based research chem site that ships to the US and doesn't require you to buy in bulk or bitcoin. I wouldn't have a problem with btc but its unneccesarily difficult and annoying to buy bitcoin with debit/credit. You need to hook up a bank account, or convert to some extremely irrelevant currency, convert that to another, until you can find one that covnerts to btc.
WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT TO BUY BITCOINS WITH US CURRENCY HOLY HANDGRENADES -
2015-09-24 at 12:13 AM UTCthis place is in europe but they sell to the US, and they take visas and stuff I think
http://www.chemicalservices.org/ -
2015-09-24 at 12:17 AM UTCI keep forgetting to come to dis fred because it doesn't show on my main new topics page. *all the dangs*
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2015-09-24 at 12:24 AM UTCFrom Zoklet:
Shooting up heroin is like nothing else. It is the only drug I can't control. It's like laying in the most comfy bed with that girl you always wanted to be with. Shooting heroin is like marrying your crush or the day your baby is born. Heroin takes you from the shit hole life it's made for you to a utopia in the fucking sky. The instant that shit hits me I'm not longer anxious. No longer tired or sick or sad or mad or anything. My body has no weight. Test tomorrow? FUCK THAT! Girlfriend bitching? FUCK YOU! Parents stay up worried sick every night not knowing if I'll be alive tomorrow? FUCK THEM!
Like God himself came down himself from Heaven, wrapped you in a blanket of bliss, and kissed you on the forehead. That's what it feels like, it's phenomenal.
Oh yeah, that sounds like what I need. May focus on this instead. Experiencing relief from everything could be the most therapeutic experience of all.imagine you've been traveling through a cold and rainy forest. you're so cold that every appendage on your body is on the brink of frostbite. you start to losing hope when suddenly you stumble on old cabin, you knock on the door and an old woman takes you in. she makes you homemade chicken noodle soup that you sip on while you sit in front of her fire wrapped in a hand knitted indian blanket.
its like that except 10x betterProots: If you've ever used opiates before - then, like that only much stronger. In the same way taking a shower and jumping into an olympic sized pool both get you wet, yet are different experiences. The rush is indescribable. The immediate and intense feeling of euphoria is almost impossible to match. It's beyond anything you've ever experienced.
If you've never used opiates before, then the feeling is impossible to explain. It would be like trying to describe to someone what color is, who only sees in black and white.
They're making me crave it like obese people would crave their final meal. T-PAIN prevents respiratory depression, I can get naloxone as an additional safety measure, and I don't plan on pushing the limit with high doses or not taking proper precautions after receiving new batches or after a long period of abstinence. I'll never die. I could use 2-FMA instead of cocaine for a milder version of a speedball experience, create a more functional/productive state. -
2015-09-24 at 12:34 AM UTC
Try finding a US based research chem site that ships to the US and doesn't require you to buy in bulk or bitcoin. I wouldn't have a problem with btc but its unneccesarily difficult and annoying to buy bitcoin with debit/credit. You need to hook up a bank account, or convert to some extremely irrelevant currency, convert that to another, until you can find one that covnerts to btc.
WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT TO BUY BITCOINS WITH US CURRENCY HOLY HANDGRENADES
www.reddit.com/r/RCSources/
https://www.circle.com
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There are so many options for bitcoin. Localbitcoins and atms:
http://coinatmradar.com/
http://coinatmradar.com/blog/how-to-buy-bitcoins-with-bitcoin-atm/
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_Bitcoins_(the_newbie_version) -
2015-09-24 at 2:10 AM UTC
From Zoklet:
Oh yeah, that sounds like what I need. May focus on this instead. Experiencing relief from everything could be the most therapeutic experience of all.
They're making me crave it like obese people would crave their final meal. T-PAIN prevents respiratory depression, I can get naloxone as an additional safety measure, and I don't plan on pushing the limit with high doses or not taking proper precautions after receiving new batches or after a long period of abstinence. I'll never die. I could use 2-FMA instead of cocaine for a milder version of a speedball experience, create a more functional/productive state.
Nigger, opiates are the only thing i ever got addicted too, that and cigarettes... Even if you just snort a crushed up oxy 80, it's gonna be pretty fucking awesome. Only thing i ever shot was pharm grade morphine and that was IM because i don't like needles and i don't like the idea of putting something directly into my blood stream, IM is pretty fast acting as well, about 5 minutes till it hits you all at once.
Would not recommend IM with anything but pharm grade material, lol. -
2015-09-24 at 4:35 AM UTC
Lanny, what have you used/been using to purchase Bitcoin?
Used coin.mx until it bit the big one. Haven't signed up for a replacement yet but I'm going to have to since I'm going to make a sizable (at least relative to my usual volumes) purchase of etizolam soon to keep on hand. Going to buy powder, dissolve it into a fluid for volumetric dosing, and shelve 90% of it -
2015-09-24 at 4:36 AM UTCFor bitcoins https://libertyx.com
Also, don't snort a crushed up oxy 80 your first time, malice, you will die, or wish you were dead. The first time I ever took opiates was an oxy 40, and I was pretty much incapacitated and poisoned for 48 hours. Screaming headache, repeated, endless vomiting... Start small, and slow, and try the same dose in different situations to get a feel for the drug. You have all the time in the world, no sense rushing it and having a bad experience. -
2015-09-24 at 4:45 AM UTCI think that drugs may make me feel better about having missed out on so much in life. Most interpersonal experiences are really pretty mundane, even a fun night out with friends, laughing, it's not particularly profound, just enjoyable, and the memories will be lost to time. Think of how many hours of experiences accumulate throughout life, what percentage do you really remember clearly and have time to think about? Of course they're part of your development, they mold you and become part of you in a way.
Mainly what I'm thinking is: Imagine seeing someone having the happiest moment of their life, a child being born, marriage, the best sex they ever had, a previous moment with their child, major success, an adventure in some part of the world etc. and knowing that the happiness they feel doesn't come close to what you felt on heroin. The adventures they had compare to the wonders you've experienced with psychedelics, LSD, psilocin, DMT. Death and rebirth, merging with the universe, alien dimensions. How could reality realistically compare?
There's a certain sadness to it as well, though. Think about the perspective from someone who has quit drugs and never plans to use them again. I vaguely feel I've read mentions of this. I'd like to read a good answer on how they came to terms with this feeling and coped. Another aspect is the melancholy from thoughts related to the nature of conscious existence, the feeling of "Is this all there is to life?" when you're coming down in an empty dark apartment and nothing in this mundane sober reality excites you, nothing elicits desire. I suppose these are things that have lead many to their deaths. -
2015-09-24 at 5 AM UTC
Used coin.mx until it bit the big one. Haven't signed up for a replacement yet but I'm going to have to since I'm going to make a sizable (at least relative to my usual volumes) purchase of etizolam soon to keep on hand. Going to buy powder, dissolve it into a fluid for volumetric dosing, and shelve 90% of it
How much? This seems to be the best place, and I was about to order, but they're out of stock for two weeks. -_- Well, this is what happens when I procrastinate due to self-destructive impulses.
www.purposechem.com -
2015-09-24 at 5:05 AM UTC
Because I'm a dysfunctional trainwreck and it would take too long to explain why. I don't have a particularly good reason for putting off relatively minor things for months. All I need to do is order some etizolam and that's it. … Alright, I'm doing it, I think! I'll try to do it today unless I can think of a good reason to delay myself again.
Do it mang. If you still haven't by the time I get my etiz I'll send you some and whatever lsd analogue I have on hand if you send me an address. It would be a kick to make little packets that contain enough LSD/LSD analogue for a good trip and a benzo to kill it, a little pamphlet explaining how and when to use each, and an email address to mail trip reports to and distribute them to people who I think could have interesting experiences like young mathematicians, people in chess clubs, experimental musicians who haven't tried psychedelics before. I think it would be fascinating to see how domain expertise affects early experiences. Wouldn't even be that expensive, 20 tops on the psychadelic, maybe another 5 on the benzo, think of the amazing experiences even possible breakthroughs you could be directly responsible for a measly $25. Maybe I should mail this idea to some prominent figures in the effective altruism community with one of these sampler packs, it could change the world ~~mannnnn~~ (no hippy).BTW, are you still planning to grow shrooms? Unless you want to do it to enjoy the experience, it is pretty cool to see your first shrooms grow, it might be better to buy 4-AcO-DMT. It will probably give you the same or a very similar experience, and will also better allow you to control the dosage, since the alkaloid content of shrooms can vary a lot.
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/4-AcO-DMT
It's been very well received, people on Zokle who tried it loved it. I think I remember Gun Lover writing very highly about it, how he now considered it his favorite psychedelic or the one he recommended for everyone's first psychedelic experience. There's a distinct difference in the experience between the LSD and psilocin families, I'd love to know what differences you experience and what you prefer about each one. Even compared to high dose LSD trips, you may be in a for a very pleasant surprise
McKenna described the differences between the hallucinations produced by LSD and psilocybin like this:
“An acid hallucination is a little fan-shaped thing … blips back and forth.
… a psilocybin hallucination is MGM Grand. …
Probably an exaggeration, but I think I have read many people reporting that they don't have very significant hallucinations on LSD, it being more of an introspective psychoanalytical experience. Even if you think the visuals you've had are pretty strong, it could simply push it even further than that.
Yeah, gonna do it one day but probably not in the immediate future. I'll pick up some 4-AcO-DMT before then because no point waiting on something that could be good. From what I've heard/read though I'm not sure I'll enjoy the psilocybin experience more than LSD, the characterization I've gotten is that LSD is more abstract, less "earthy" which is a positive IMO. The LSD experience, when it becomes intense enough that you're functionally totally detached from reality, is fun because it's so different than you experience day to day. Colors you never actually see, patterns that have no connection to anything physical, interacting with the conceptual embodiment of abstract ideas. I remember thinking at one point that I was "swimming in the electron flow of an adder circuit" which is of course pretty meaningless on its own but the point is that the subject of the experience is something with no previously reified physical association, which it sounds like something that doesn't happen on psilocybin trips. But then what the fuck do I know, I've never done it so I'll give it a go, not like I really stand to lose anything. -
2015-09-24 at 5:29 AM UTC
Oh yeah, that sounds like what I need. May focus on this instead. Experiencing relief from everything could be the most therapeutic experience of all.
Don't run from your problems, stand and deliver! Take all the shitty things in your life, look them in the eye, and say "I'm not afraid to confront you". When you the face the induced subjective experience of dying and come to terms with it, unafraid and unflinching, you realize afterwards that the real thing can't be that scary, the prospect no longer holds power over you because you've seen how bad it gets and you're still here. The same goes for every neurosis, anxiety, and insecurity. Once faced and blown radically out of proportion by the experience the psychological part of any problem is functionally gone, closure has been had.How much? This seems to be the best place, and I was about to order, but they're out of stock for two weeks. -_- Well, this is what happens when I procrastinate due to self-destructive impulses.
www.purposechem.com
Depending on the price, somewhere in the 3-7 grams range. Prices aren't listed since it's OoS, do you know what they were before?
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2015-09-24 at 6:33 AM UTCYou have an idea of how many problems I have, but you can only see a small fraction of it. At every step of the way, for every action, for every major concept and segment in life, things I can't find satisfying answers for, come to terms with, things that will realistically never change, that we don't have the power to change. The problems that arise with communication and its limitations, human nature, the vast array of factors influencing human behavior, cognition, so many cognitive biases, things in your own life, profound inadequacy, insignificance, limitations in life, the prison of biological reality, wondering how your life has effected your neurological development and whether you can realistically change things to a point that's satisfactory. An inability to just forget for a moment.
After speaking to people do you just obsess over their flaws? Their personal failings, failing to adhere to certain standards, such as open mindedness, impartialness, rationality. Over the habits of their mind, the immense amount of cognitive biases and logical fallacies they engage in, the material they read and the quality of it, their thought processes in analyzing it? The tragic limitations of intelligence that apply to the majority of people and the effects of it?
I'm not sure if this conveys it properly, but I just couldn't stop thinking about. I spent years leaning against a wall, sitting on the stairs, hiding in the bathroom, just fixated on these things, on every problem in the world. I'm genuinely afraid it could destroy me if I was confronted with everything to the fullest extent, even within the time it would take for etizolam to kick in and abort it. Urban legends, made up stories, aside, some people really do end up in a mental hospital for the rest of their life. I could see myself becoming catatonic, or finally completely losing control of my mind and having reality break down, end up in a psychotic or schizophrenic state. It already broke me down this far, it's only made it easier for me to be broken down even further.Depending on the price, somewhere in the 3-7 grams range. Prices aren't listed since it's OoS, do you know what they were before?
$60 a gram. 3-7g is quite a lot considering the dosage.
