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2015-09-18 at 1:53 AM UTCMalice has a lot of right going on in his thoughts on life. I've always said no one asks for this shit.
Going through shit again w g/f and her mom. I've spent 750.00 putting her mom up in a motel the past three weeks. There is literally no one who will let her live with them family or friend wise. My chicks grandad and myself have both told her that it's not her job to save her mom and to be honest she can't save her. You can't help someone who simply says to the question "why do you stay drunk?" that they are miserable sober is their reply.
Chicks mad says we're all heartless etc. I told her she's on a fools errand. She's young and just isn't thinking rationally. Her emotions are truly getting the best of her. I don't trust her at all with money anymore as she took car payment money to put her mom up last week.
I figure she'll either snap out of it and right herself or we'll break up. Hate to see us break up but it's honestly out of my control -
2015-09-18 at 2:02 AM UTCJust tell her that you need some space, that you don't want to break up, but that you never signed up for this. Tell her that until the situation rectifies itself, that you two are regressing back to the dating stage of the relationship. You can pick her up for dates on the weekend or whatnot, and still get laid, but you aren't responsible for her life and her emotional and physical baggage.
At least that's what I would do, and if she didn't go for it I would be like 'you have no choice'
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2015-09-18 at 2:31 AM UTCSpace Hatian, I just now noticed your message, and returned it. I get PM'ed every time a post gets thanked and it is flooding my actual messages away
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2015-09-18 at 2:40 AM UTC
Just tell her that you need some space, that you don't want to break up, but that you never signed up for this. Tell her that until the situation rectifies itself, that you two are regressing back to the dating stage of the relationship. You can pick her up for dates on the weekend or whatnot, and still get laid, but you aren't responsible for her life and her emotional and physical baggage.
I would if she had somewhere to stay/her own car. It's a mess but bottom line is the money has run out so it's sink or swim for her mom.
At least that's what I would do, and if she didn't go for it I would be like 'you have no choice'
I actually bought a small travel trailer for her mom this week, but I thought on it real hard and was like she'll get kicked out of an rv park the first night she gets drunk.
what her mom needs is detox and life in a half way house. Told her that till I'm blue in the face. she somehow considers that "being on the street" i consider it a turn in the right direction away from a lifetime of shit life choices. -
2015-09-18 at 10:04 AM UTCHow is being in detox or a half way house on the streets? I've said this before, but there is an enormous, on average, chasm in the fundamental grasp of logic and reasoning, in thinking styles, between men and women. Of course politically correct thought crime liberal pansies that are too afraid to even think of anything that could offend their comrades will deny this till they're blue in the face, although they've never actually tried looking for information on this that doesn't tell them what they want to hear, and this should be completely unsurprising.
Just look at the ratios of some of the largest components of the brain!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0121100142.htmIn general, men have approximately 6.5 times the amount of gray matter related to general intelligence than women, and women have nearly 10 times the amount of white matter related to intelligence than men. Gray matter represents information processing centers in the brain, and white matter represents the networking of – or connections between – these processing centers.
This, according to Rex Jung, a UNM neuropsychologist and co-author of the study, may help to explain why men tend to excel in tasks requiring more local processing (like mathematics), while women tend to excel at integrating and assimilating information from distributed gray-matter regions in the brain, such as required for language facility.The study also identified regional differences with intelligence. For example, 84 percent of gray-matter regions and 86 percent of white-matter regions involved with intellectual performance in women were found in the brain’s frontal lobes, compared to 45 percent and zero percent for males, respectively.
The gray matter driving male intellectual performance is distributed throughout more of the brain.
Why do women have such a disproportionate amount of brain matter in the region of the frontal lobes?The frontal lobe is the part of the brain that controls important cognitive skills in humans, such as emotional expression
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobethe override and suppression of socially unacceptable responses
The frontal lobe also plays an important part in retaining longer term memories which are not task-based. These are often memories associated with emotions derived from input from the brain's limbic system. The frontal lobe modifies those emotions to generally fit socially acceptable norms.
When dealing with a topic as emotionally charged as family, her own mother, logical arguments just aren't going to get through to her, and her behavior so far has demonstrated this. Even if she agrees with you and understands your train of thought, your perception, momentarily she'll be overwhelmed by emotions and revert back to her old patterns of behavior. You have to approach it from another angle.
I've mentioned this before, and I've worked out the math and it may actually be affordable to pay for this out of pocket. Although getting her a prescription shouldn't be too hard since it's not really considered abusable, isn't scheduled, isn't a precursor, and doesn't come with much liability, it's not a suitable substance to poison someone with, doesn't have a significant risk of overdose or particularly serious health consequences from an (accidentally) excessive dose, or risk of addiction, and tapering off shouldn't be a problem if managed properly, but even with a prescription you may need a higher dose than they're willing to prescribe.
If you read about it, this is the real deal, the most promising treatment for alcoholism and some other addictions currently available, although it's not well known. Among that those that are familiar with it, there are major proponents because they understand how effective it is. It genuinely seems to greatly reduce and even eliminate the desire to drink in long term serious alcoholics at high doses, along with changing the response to alcohol, so even if they have a drink it won't lead to relapse.
http://www.google.com/search?q=baclo...+OR+alcoholism
http://brandmedicines.com/index.php?...oducts_id=1493
Seriously the best option if you can't get rid of her and can't convince your girlfriend of other options and don't want to leave her yet. It works fast. A lot cheaper than a motel. especially if you can manage to split the cost. It doesn't make you feel bad, quite the opposite, and it doesn't work like antabuse, it won't have side effects and zombify you or numb your emotions like SSRIs, you need to make this very clear, so there's no good reason why she shouldn't take it.
If you're interested, read this and maybe show it to your girl too if you think she can get through it, it's a very good case series that will give you an idea of what to expect. Compare to what you're going through, this is very easy to actualy go through with and is worth the effort to save your relationship, along with the money and incredible stress it's causing you: http://journal.frontiersin.org/artic...014.00143/full -
2015-09-18 at 10:13 AM UTCI love my job. I'm just waiting for the drunk middle aged woman to start hitting on me and giving me their numbers. That's what I'm holding out for.
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2015-09-18 at 12:22 PM UTCOh hi every1. Whats going on in this shit show?
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2015-09-18 at 1:39 PM UTCDammit Casper, I didn't our paths to cross until I told you why I hadn't said a word since Zoklet closed, although I knew you were watching. There's nothing here for you, you know why people still cling to this place and the reasons aren't good, although it also isn't of much importance.
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2015-09-18 at 2:05 PM UTC
Dammit Casper, I didn't our paths to cross until I told you why I hadn't said a word since Zoklet closed, although I knew you were watching. There's nothing here for you, you know why people still cling to this place and the reasons aren't good, although it also isn't of much importance.
So tell malice, why do people cling to this place? Is it the same reason you cling to your meaningless existence? -
2015-09-18 at 5:36 PM UTCI havent exactly been watching. I just found out this place existed and then i found out mark died and was sad. Any minor emotional connection I mightve had to the boards is pretty done, but Im still technically unemployed and sit home all day doing jack shit so....why not pop in now and again? Maybe i could breathe some life into this little jerk circle.
Anyway whats up with you? You start taking hardcore drugs and throwing caution to the wind, engaging strangers in conversation yet? -
2015-09-18 at 6:44 PM UTCWhere's the heartfelt reunion?
I actually did get around to ordering opium, although I don't think it will show up by now and Agora is still closed. Do you ever think the things you order are going to make a significant difference in your life? Drugs are more likely to do so due to their nature, but I don't delude myself and always know how things will end. I could drag on about why I'm as dysfunctional as I am, but I think you may be able to understand what drives putting off even relatively minor things for months, quickly losing interest in things, being discouraged, if the emotion could even be there, and losing any small momentum. There are very few things I know could realistically make a difference, and even then the feeling of hope, of excitement, looking forward to them, just isn't there due to the state I'm in. The same is true for you.
Relevant to the above, read my comments here: http://niggasin.space/forum/half-baked/25491-i-m-half-way-into-the-6th-hour-of-a-conference-call-and-drunk-as-shit#post25913
You could help us out and mail us some of that sweet black tar. I know you've done it before, and I remember that you either never or rarely succeeded. Did you use moisture barrier bags and make sure there was not a trace of residue on the outside? Vacuum sealing and other techniques, like placing it inside candles, peanut butter, coffee etc. are for noobs and don't work properly. This has been the standard top quality technique for darknet vendors for a while. It's okay, we're cool here, this place is so low key no one's watching it.
You could help us treat our depression, general and social anxiety, and anhedonia, and Lanny's, ah, pain that comes from accepting he's just going to be another generic yuppie, lost in life and unfulfilled, the last two of which also apply to myself.
Seriously Casper, you know if anyone can handle it it's me. It could at least put me in a position where I could work towards a more sustainable alternative. And there actually are methods to make long-term opioid use far more sustainable, which you should have been using.
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/62247-reversing-opioid-tolerance/
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/79731-is-opiate-tolerance-permanent/
Proglumide and ULDN, ultra low dose naltrexone. Do you remember that thread on Zoklet where I posted what was essentially a gut only version of naloxone/naltrexone? Did you ever buy it? Of course not, you pathetic pansy. You waste money like a retired playboy on things you barely, if ever use, and fleeting pleasures you can barely feel, then you complain about your fucked up hick truck and not being able to afford medical insurance, living in a hoarders room with your mother, all while having one of the most absurd expenditures on an addiction you can find. You were already doing insane amounts of heroin, had multiple health problems due largely to your own actions, and then you go on a generic option to wean off, methadone, that isn't even particularly effective or safe, and you whine about not wanting to try my recommendations because you don't want to be a "guinea pig".
*slaps you upside the head* The hell's wrong with you? Forget PoC, I want to be the abusive father that was never there for you. Even I, in my pitiful state, can manage to avoid unnecessary spending and save money for things of importance, try some cutting edge treatments before completely falling apart.
Ah, feeling so tired, tired to your soul, weary of life and apathetic, that you can't even communicate like you used to, one of the most basic human actions. Read things of considerable length, write a few pages. And what does that do? Your basic ability to help yourself and ask others for help, reach out to people for information and favors when it would so much to just have someone striving along with you on the same path to recovery, finally digging yourself out of this hell, this slow unrelenting death, and making something of yourself.
Remember how during our last months on Zoklet you noticed that we would arrive at the exact same conclusions, write the exact same things we would have told other people, had the same ideas, thought processes? Why is that? It's because there are paths few can see, ideas most haven't considered and can't grasp. The things you've experienced, read and thought, how your mind has been molded, how you've developed it yourself. The fundamental mental architecture of logic and reasoning. A simple definition for general intelligence can be the ability to deal with complexity. You've mentioned you have, or had, an unusually good memory, although not to the extent of my autistic rain man/perfect recall level, this also helps, because you need knowledge, specific data, as well as processing power. You see the best, optimal, path to victory. The solutions.
You know how rare it is to find someone like you, that can really understand you, is IRL. How wonderful would it be to have someone you could talk to about anything, who would understand and be able to follow anything you brought up without a problem? You could share your ideas, plans, hopes and dreams, have feedback from each other, help each other develop.
Think about this. If you were to be completely honest about two things, what percentage of people do you think would automatically be driven away?
1.) I use _ grams of heroin a day, spend $ X a month on my habit.
2.) I sell _ ("antiques") for a living.
Even if they weren't flat out driven away, how would it change how they felt about you? Imagine a room full of hundreds of people, representative of the general population, all their eyes are on you. Would they want their sons and daughters to be friends with you? Daughters to love you? How much of a monster would they have to see you as to not even feel safe having their young children around you?
You can tell yourself it shouldn't matter, but that doesn't change that to them it does. Rationalize hiding it, but if it were ever revealed, even after years of developing a relationship, everything you'd built together, how many would leave you over it? It may not seem significant to you, you may think it shouldn't matter, that it doesn't define you, but clearly to them it does. Now tell me: What does that say about them?
But here, this isn't simply a family style intervention where we tell you we'll always love you, can accept any part of you, no matter what. Generic lines that are to expected. Look into my eyes Casper. We're the same. You know that I look down on you for it, that I don't view it as others do, and that's because I don't have to try, I don't have to force myself away from a natural reaction, this is simply the way I genuinely see things, I see things the way they are. I have no respect for laws and governments, no concern for the simplistic morality of the masses, the logical fallacies and cognitive biases, the emotionalism, that pervade the very structure of who they are. And you know it's true because of everything I said (named "realest nigga here" by Bipolar High Roller/LLL/1337), what I've done and am willing to do. I would smoke heroin right alongside with you, smuggle kilos, rob an armored van, even kill.
How wonderful would it be to have a friend and stop feeling so alone and lost in the world? -
2015-09-18 at 7:15 PM UTCshut the fuck up
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2015-09-18 at 7:26 PM UTC
Where's the heartfelt reunion?
For a guy who claims to avoid social interaction you sure type a lot.
I actually did get around to ordering opium, although I don't think it will show up by now and Agora is still closed. Do you ever think the things you order are going to make a significant difference in your life? Drugs are more likely to do so due to their nature, but I don't delude myself and always know how things will end. I could drag on about why I'm as dysfunctional as I am, but I think you may be able to understand what drives putting off even relatively minor things for months, quickly losing interest in things, being discouraged, if the emotion could even be there, and losing any small momentum. There are very few things I know could realistically make a difference, and even then the feeling of hope, of excitement, looking forward to them, just isn't there due to the state I'm in. The same is true for you.
Relevant to the above, read my comments here: http://niggasin.space/forum/half-baked/25491-i-m-half-way-into-the-6th-hour-of-a-conference-call-and-drunk-as-shit#post25913
You could help us out and mail us some of that sweet black tar. I know you've done it before, and I remember that you either never or rarely succeeded. Did you use moisture barrier bags and make sure there was not a trace of residue on the outside? Vacuum sealing and other techniques, like placing it inside candles, peanut butter, coffee etc. are for noobs and don't work properly. This has been the standard top quality technique for darknet vendors for a while. It's okay, we're cool here, this place is so low key no one's watching it.
You could help us treat our depression, general and social anxiety, and anhedonia, and Lanny's, ah, pain that comes from accepting he's just going to be another generic yuppie, lost in life and unfulfilled, the last two of which also apply to myself.
Seriously Casper, you know if anyone can handle it it's me. It could at least put me in a position where I could work towards a more sustainable alternative. And there actually are methods to make long-term opioid use far more sustainable, which you should have been using.
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/62247-reversing-opioid-tolerance/
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/79731-is-opiate-tolerance-permanent/
Proglumide and ULDN, ultra low dose naltrexone. Do you remember that thread on Zoklet where I posted what was essentially a gut only version of naloxone/naltrexone? Did you ever buy it? Of course not, you pathetic pansy. You waste money like a retired playboy on things you barely, if ever use, and fleeting pleasures you can barely feel, then you complain about your fucked up hick truck and not being able to afford medical insurance, living in a hoarders room with your mother, all while having one of the most absurd expenditures on an addiction you can find. You were already doing insane amounts of heroin, had multiple health problems due largely to your own actions, and then you go on a generic option to wean off, methadone, that isn't even particularly effective or safe, and you whine about not wanting to try my recommendations because you don't want to be a "guinea pig".
*slaps you upside the head* The hell's wrong with you? Forget PoC, I want to be the abusive father that was never there for you. Even I, in my pitiful state, can manage to avoid unnecessary spending and save money for things of importance, try some cutting edge treatments before completely falling apart.
Ah, feeling so tired, tired to your soul, weary of life and apathetic, that you can't even communicate like you used to, one of the most basic human actions. Read things of considerable length, write a few pages. And what does that do? Your basic ability to help yourself and ask others for help, reach out to people for information and favors when it would so much to just have someone striving along with you on the same path to recovery, finally digging yourself out of this hell, this slow unrelenting death, and making something of yourself.
Remember how during our last months on Zoklet you noticed that we would arrive at the exact same conclusions, write the exact same things we would have told other people, had the same ideas, thought processes? Why is that? It's because there are paths few can see, ideas most haven't considered and can't grasp. The things you've experienced, read and thought, how your mind has been molded, how you've developed it yourself. The fundamental mental architecture of logic and reasoning. A simple definition for general intelligence can be the ability to deal with complexity. You've mentioned you have, or had, an unusually good memory, although not to the extent of my autistic rain man/perfect recall level, this also helps, because you need knowledge, specific data, as well as processing power. You see the best, optimal, path to victory. The solutions.
You know how rare it is to find someone like you, that can really understand you, is IRL. How wonderful would it be to have someone you could talk to about anything, who would understand and be able to follow anything you brought up without a problem? You could share your ideas, plans, hopes and dreams, have feedback from each other, help each other develop.
Think about this. If you were to be completely honest about two things, what percentage of people do you think would automatically be driven away?
1.) I use _ grams of heroin a day, spend $ X a month on my habit.
2.) I sell _ ("antiques") for a living.
Even if they weren't flat out driven away, how would it change how they felt about you? Imagine a room full of hundreds of people, representative of the general population, all their eyes are on you. Would they want their sons and daughters to be friends with you? Daughters to love you? How much of a monster would they have to see you as to not even feel safe having their young children around you?
You can tell yourself it shouldn't matter, but that doesn't change that to them it does. Rationalize hiding it, but if it were ever revealed, even after years of developing a relationship, everything you'd built together, how many would leave you over it? It may not seem significant to you, you may think it shouldn't matter, that it doesn't define you, but clearly to them it does. Now tell me: What does that say about them?
But here, this isn't simply a family style intervention where we tell you we'll always love you, can accept any part of you, no matter what. Generic lines that are to expected. Look into my eyes Casper. We're the same. You know that I look down on you for it, that I don't view it as others do, and that's because I don't have to try, I don't have to force myself away from a natural reaction, this is simply the way I genuinely see things, I see things the way they are. I have no respect for laws and governments, no concern for the simplistic morality of the masses, the logical fallacies and cognitive biases, the emotionalism, that pervade the very structure of who they are. And you know it's true because of everything I said (named "realest nigga here" by Bipolar High Roller/LLL/1337), what I've done and am willing to do. I would smoke heroin right alongside with you, smuggle kilos, rob an armored van, even kill.
How wonderful would it be to have a friend and stop feeling so alone and lost in the world?
tl/dr: tl/dr -
2015-09-18 at 7:57 PM UTCI want to be the abusive father that was never there for you.
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2015-09-18 at 9:32 PM UTC
How is being in detox or a half way house on the streets? I've said this before, but there is an enormous, on average, chasm in the fundamental grasp of logic and reasoning, in thinking styles, between men and women. Of course politically correct thought crime liberal pansies that are too afraid to even think of anything that could offend their comrades will deny this till they're blue in the face, although they've never actually tried looking for information on this that doesn't tell them what they want to hear, and this should be completely unsurprising.
Just look at the ratios of some of the largest components of the brain!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0121100142.htm
Why do women have such a disproportionate amount of brain matter in the region of the frontal lobes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe
When dealing with a topic as emotionally charged as family, her own mother, logical arguments just aren't going to get through to her, and her behavior so far has demonstrated this. Even if she agrees with you and understands your train of thought, your perception, momentarily she'll be overwhelmed by emotions and revert back to her old patterns of behavior. You have to approach it from another angle.
I've mentioned this before, and I've worked out the math and it may actually be affordable to pay for this out of pocket. Although getting her a prescription shouldn't be too hard since it's not really considered abusable, isn't scheduled, isn't a precursor, and doesn't come with much liability, it's not a suitable substance to poison someone with, doesn't have a significant risk of overdose or particularly serious health consequences from an (accidentally) excessive dose, or risk of addiction, and tapering off shouldn't be a problem if managed properly, but even with a prescription you may need a higher dose than they're willing to prescribe.
If you read about it, this is the real deal, the most promising treatment for alcoholism and some other addictions currently available, although it's not well known. Among that those that are familiar with it, there are major proponents because they understand how effective it is. It genuinely seems to greatly reduce and even eliminate the desire to drink in long term serious alcoholics at high doses, along with changing the response to alcohol, so even if they have a drink it won't lead to relapse.
http://www.google.com/search?q=baclo...+OR+alcoholism
http://brandmedicines.com/index.php?...oducts_id=1493
Seriously the best option if you can't get rid of her and can't convince your girlfriend of other options and don't want to leave her yet. It works fast. A lot cheaper than a motel. especially if you can manage to split the cost. It doesn't make you feel bad, quite the opposite, and it doesn't work like antabuse, it won't have side effects and zombify you or numb your emotions like SSRIs, you need to make this very clear, so there's no good reason why she shouldn't take it.
If you're interested, read this and maybe show it to your girl too if you think she can get through it, it's a very good case series that will give you an idea of what to expect. Compare to what you're going through, this is very easy to actualy go through with and is worth the effort to save your relationship, along with the money and incredible stress it's causing you: http://journal.frontiersin.org/artic...014.00143/full
That seems really promising (I read a few studies I ggogled) problem is getting her to want to take it. The bitch is loco
But in the mean time my girl is giving me her part of the car payment each check and I'm making sure she pays her student loans. Her grandad might start chipping in some and her brotehr as well.
Her moms seeing about getting another job so then she could help herself some.
I gotta go get this camper trailer titled, fix a few things on it and try to flip itfor a little more than I have in it.
Once I do that I'm concentrating on getting my shit fully together. I need to
1. Get straight with the IRS
2. Fix a few things on my truck
3. Pay off the small balance on my credit card
4. Save some money -
2015-09-19 at 2:57 AM UTCWait.... Mark died? As in, Mark311xtc or whatever his handle was?
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2015-09-19 at 4:09 AM UTC
Wait…. Mark died? As in, Mark311xtc or whatever his handle was?
Yeah, God rest his soul -
2015-09-19 at 12:24 PM UTCDamn. What happened?
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2015-09-19 at 12:35 PM UTC
Damn. What happened?
He overdosed. -
2015-09-19 at 4:38 PM UTC"That action could not be completed. Please try again, and if this occurs again please contact the system administrator and tell them how you got this message."
Goddamn you Lanny, you mentally deficient incompetent indolent little twink. You're ruining everything.
