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2018-12-21 at 10:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone Honestly, if that person was expressing pain, I'd just go with a topical anesthetic at the most.
Look, I don't believe people should be in pain, but there has to be a line. An example… When §m£ÂgØL had to get stitches for his hand (Oh yeah, I forgot, the cunt doctor didn't even write an antibiotic script, which for fucks sake, I would have considering we told them it was cut moving aluminum sheeting that had been sitting outside, and in actuality, it was a dog bite, either way, I believe a preemptive course of antibiotics was in order, which is why I put him on bactrim, I believe.) I feel that he should have at least gotten a few days worth of hydrocodone. Since all I had in my arsenal was tramadol, that's what §m£ÂgØL got. I even gave him some somas just to sweeten the pot, and because I felt bad, even though I know that they wouldn't serve much use for his condition, save maybe to help him sleep. The doctor did such a piss poor suture job it made me cringe too… I let him play with my tits while my ex changed his bandages so he wouldn't cry, bitch and/pass out from being a pussy who's squeamish as fuck. That's another form of pain control- distraction.
Now, for what happened… no, I don't think he should have gotten more than a few days worth of pain meds, and nothing stronger than a 7.5mg hydrocodone, but I do believe pain should be taken into consideration, and treated fairly.
Should a stubbed toe get pain killers? Not unless they actually broke their toe or something. Should a paper cut or similar cut? At best a topical anesthetic, like benzocaine or lidocaine.
Also, I do believe one should start somewhere without opioids, unless they're experiencing severe acute pain. In that case, stop the pain, and then figure if something else can work, but no one should be left to suffer if there's something that can help the pain.
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2018-12-22 at 12:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick My grandfather had aspirations of becoming a doctor, but they never materialized. Later in life, he had a sick dog who he was very attached to. Refusing to consult a proper authority on the subject out of spite for his lost career, he employed what little medical understanding he had at his disposal and proceeded to treat, operate, etc. The dog became his project of disease. This continued miserably until the dog eventually died in a truly awful state that shocked and appalled the people around him. I realize that you thought you were doing the right thing, but giving clandestine medical treatment to a wounded animal does not indicate virtue; more likely, its opposite. I hope that you pay a veterinarian for their expertise in the future, especially for something as serious as a snake bite.
Your grandfather sounds like a selfish asshole. Don't assume I would proceed as that, nor do not assume I don't know what I'm doing just because he did not know what the fuck he was doing. At some point, enough is enough. I personally, because of how my own feelings have come about, tend to say the 'enough' part is enough, a lot sooner than most people would, just because it's not something I personally would want to go through, especially if the odds of a full recovery are low. I've ended the suffering of quite a few animals I can honestly say I loved far more than any person, that I would have traded places for, that I would have killed for, if I thought it would do them any good. I only usually will take it further ONLY if I'm able to control pain. I won't let something suffer.
Actually, she did see a vet prior to me going about to treat her, and the vet didn't even catch that it was a snake bite- I couldn't afford to get IV fluids for her, and even begged the vet to take my vehicle, with a signed title as collateral until I got paid in two days. Fucking cunt wouldn't do it and had the nerve to say "Well, you better come up with the money else I know she's gonna die without those IV fluids" Yeah, bitch, I already knew that before I walked in here (I only took her because I'd been working 80 hour weeks, and had to be in at work soon that evening and still ended up treating her myself).
I realized it was a rattle snake bite a day later, when the bite on her neck finally started to open up into two big holes, which eventually formed into one giant hole the size of my fist from going necrotic. Her receiving IV fluids is what saved her. Fortunately, the size diapers my son was in at the time fit around her perfect, and covered the site. I used silver sulfadine ointment on her wound, and had her on bactrim to prevent infection until it scabbed over and began to heal. I had her initially, when she presented with dehydration on IV fluids for 2 days, then discontinued once I determined she was well hydrated, drinking on her own, and eating well, and she was much more energetic than she was the day it occurred. The first day, I'd given her a percocet every 8 hours, and did that for approx 2 1/2 days, until she was mostly back to herself, and doing better. I'd spot dosed her slightly more once or twice when I felt she needed a tad bit extra for pain, especially once I realized she'd been bitten.
If I couldn't have treated her pain, and that would have persisted for any length of time, as much as I loved her, I wouldn't have let her go on suffering. I just knew that there was a good chance that with IV fluids, I could pull her through, and I was right.
Certainly, even if I'd known from go she'd been bitten, I couldn't have even given her antivenom (assuming I had availability to it, and cost was no object), since I could not confirm for sure, especially then, what type of snake had bitten her. I deduced it was a rattlesnake only because there were rattlesnakes around the house, I'd recently seen and killed one, I wasn't near any bodies of water, although there were cottonmouths in the area, and the way it went necrotic, fit the bill. The most a vet would have done, unless it was CERTAIN (ie I saw it bite her/killed and brought it in with me), is to treat the symptoms, and treat the wound. I did everything a vet would have done, and hell, even more since I actually gave her legit pain meds too. If you or I were snake bit, you bet your ass our pain would be treated at the least with a mild opioid, but it's not always the case for animals just because of cost, and well... I feel a lot of animals are under treated for pain, honestly, just because they can't say they're in pain, the propaganda of the "opioid crisis", and cost. -
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2018-12-22 at 12:24 AM UTCrewatching the X-Files it makes some interesting references, like the FBI sending MLK that letter telling him to kill himself... I didn'know it was common knowledge back in the 90sThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-12-22 at 12:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone Your grandfather sounds like a selfish asshole. Don't assume I would proceed as that, nor do not assume I don't know what I'm doing just because he did not know what the fuck he was doing. At some point, enough is enough. I personally, because of how my own feelings have come about, tend to say the 'enough' part is enough, a lot sooner than most people would, just because it's not something I personally would want to go through, especially if the odds of a full recovery are low. I've ended the suffering of quite a few animals I can honestly say I loved far more than any person, that I would have traded places for, that I would have killed for, if I thought it would do them any good. I only usually will take it further ONLY if I'm able to control pain. I won't let something suffer.
Actually, she did see a vet prior to me going about to treat her, and the vet didn't even catch that it was a snake bite- I couldn't afford to get IV fluids for her, and even begged the vet to take my vehicle, with a signed title as collateral until I got paid in two days. Fucking cunt wouldn't do it and had the nerve to say "Well, you better come up with the money else I know she's gonna die without those IV fluids" Yeah, bitch, I already knew that before I walked in here (I only took her because I'd been working 80 hour weeks, and had to be in at work soon that evening and still ended up treating her myself).
I realized it was a rattle snake bite a day later, when the bite on her neck finally started to open up into two big holes, which eventually formed into one giant hole the size of my fist from going necrotic. Her receiving IV fluids is what saved her. Fortunately, the size diapers my son was in at the time fit around her perfect, and covered the site. I used silver sulfadine ointment on her wound, and had her on bactrim to prevent infection until it scabbed over and began to heal. I had her initially, when she presented with dehydration on IV fluids for 2 days, then discontinued once I determined she was well hydrated, drinking on her own, and eating well, and she was much more energetic than she was the day it occurred. The first day, I'd given her a percocet every 8 hours, and did that for approx 2 1/2 days, until she was mostly back to herself, and doing better. I'd spot dosed her slightly more once or twice when I felt she needed a tad bit extra for pain, especially once I realized she'd been bitten.
If I couldn't have treated her pain, and that would have persisted for any length of time, as much as I loved her, I wouldn't have let her go on suffering. I just knew that there was a good chance that with IV fluids, I could pull her through, and I was right.
Certainly, even if I'd known from go she'd been bitten, I couldn't have even given her antivenom (assuming I had availability to it, and cost was no object), since I could not confirm for sure, especially then, what type of snake had bitten her. I deduced it was a rattlesnake only because there were rattlesnakes around the house, I'd recently seen and killed one, I wasn't near any bodies of water, although there were cottonmouths in the area, and the way it went necrotic, fit the bill. The most a vet would have done, unless it was CERTAIN (ie I saw it bite her/killed and brought it in with me), is to treat the symptoms, and treat the wound. I did everything a vet would have done, and hell, even more since I actually gave her legit pain meds too. If you or I were snake bit, you bet your ass our pain would be treated at the least with a mild opioid, but it's not always the case for animals just because of cost, and well… I feel a lot of animals are under treated for pain, honestly, just because they can't say they're in pain, the propaganda of the "opioid crisis", and cost.
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2018-12-22 at 1:30 AM UTCHey, Narc, when people post "didnt read", do hyou think they actually believe I give a fuck if they read what I posted or not, or that they somehow think I posted it for them or something? I can't seem to figure it out. I don't read a lot of shit, but I don't waste my time telling the person that. Shit, my feelings aren't hurt if they don't read lol.
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2018-12-22 at 2:37 AM UTCdidnt read
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2018-12-22 at 2:43 AM UTCITT, whites notice brown people don't read.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-12-22 at 3:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone Dude, I don't know why you've got so hung up about opioids just because I use them to treat chronic pain. I think maybe you have more of a problem here than I do. Just because someone uses a drug to improve their quality of life, and that drug happens to be opioids, it doesn't mean they know nothing about other biological functions. I am aware there is more to medicine than opioids, and more ways than opioids to treat pain too. Don't think I haven't tried more than opioids to reduce my pain either. I take gabapentin, and I'm on 1,200mg tid. It helps with the neuropathy pain I experience from the surgeries, and also with my anxiety. (I originally was prescribed it at 100mg for anxiety, then went up to 300mg prior to having surgery.) Hell, when pain is caused by inflammation, NSAIDs and steroids can do a great job of alleviating pain, just by reducing the pressure, and swelling inflammation can cause. They also have risks that opioids don't have too. (Like, I'm kinda scratching my head on why my doctors have me on ibprofen, naproxen, intermittent keterolac and then decide to throw celebrex in the mix when I'm on warfrin… I would say that okay, one, fine, but the risk increases of GI bleeding when you throw in celebrex by a lot on it's own not to mention with an NSAID, not one but two regular, and the other spotted… I wouldn't make that call… I wouldn't want to risk it.)
Frankly, you have it in your head as to who I am, and what I know, when in truth, you know jack shit about who I am, and especially about what I know. I've forgotten more than all the knowledge you possess in your wee bitty brain there more than likely. I don't know though. I am not going to claim to know ALL about you just from a few posts on a forum though. What I do know is, is that you're the sort who thinks they know it all just from the first layer they see of a person, and from experience, people like that tend to stay ignorant, at least in the ways of learning about the people around them.
Thank you hydro. I sincrely appreciated the fuck out of that response. Mostly I'm just picking fun, but there was some (intentional) pretension mixed into my last post. I think you're an extremely empathetic person, and a very likeable one to boot.
I personally take 900mg gabapentin t.i.d., for the nerve pain in my head, and I'm going to ask the neurologist I'm going to next month to either up me to 1200 tid, or switch me to Lyrica (better yet, give me free samples). Luckily the patent for Lyrica literally just ran out this month, which is awesome. Fucking Pfizer gets away with these 20 year patents, which is absolutely ridiculous.
I'm seriously considering trying to get on tramadol for my head pain, because I think that's an appropriate measure given my pain (honestly percocet or suboxone would be better, but I don't really want go back to daily opis). Also I get pissed tested regularly, so Lyrica/gaba and tramadol I believe would be very appropriate for my nerve pain. It's fucking terrible about 2/3 of the day.
I know what you mean amount living a life in severe pain. It sucks ass, and I don't blame you for one second for using opis like you do. Being in severe pain all the time is not really a life worth living. Painkilling drugs can help take your mind off it, and I intimately understand and respect that.
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I went to the first headshop I've been to in my life becausoe I now live in an area that has them. I picked up some (probably very overpriced) Crouton because I wanted to try it today instead of waiting for it to be Amazon Primed to me by some Indian on the east coeste.
This is the first opioid agoninizing chemical I've had since like august, during which I was still WD'ing from Xanax. It feels calming and focusing and somewhat warm, without having rock hard euphoria. It has kind of an "herbal" feeling, and I say that because it likely has many different mildy psychoactive chemicals within the plant matter.
Suboxone has more kick to it than Crouton, but it does feels more synthetic. I don't have an appetite for subs though, they last too long. T-PAIN is actually a decent opioid in SMALL doses, but it's very uncomfortable, gross, itchy, and synthetic feeling in high doses.
I'm glad this Crouton shit is legal. I don't want to take high doses of it or use it often. I think it might be helpful for meditation. Going to give cbd another shot too, but I don't have high expectations for it. Also, I may be testing ardrafanil bc the little to no comedown intrigues me. I'm not into stim euphoria either, honestly.
I don't really want highly euphoric substances in general. Not any more often than what could be considered a "reasonable" amount of time lapsed by normies. I kind of like that this Crouton shit seems to be fairly weaksauce. It scratches the dope itch without plunging me into an unreasonable amount of euphoria.
Basically, (unless it's a psychedelic/dissociative) I don't want to get so intoxicated that I lose control, even if it's as simple as losing all motivation to do anything but eat sour patch kids and open the Netflix app and nod out before I find something to watch. I want to be able to function somewhat if I am to be intoxicated, and I definitely don't want to get intoxicated as a reward for myself, or something to be looking forward to in life. Feeling high is not my goal in life anymore, it's simply an experience that may or not happen at times throughout my life.
I really hope I just have frequent migraines instead of a brain tumor or permanent myelin damage, which unfortunately may be the case given the circumstances around my rc pcp(s) use. At least my cock is okay.*
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2018-12-22 at 3:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone Honestly, if that person was expressing pain, I'd just go with a topical anesthetic at the most.
Look, I don't believe people should be in pain, but there has to be a line. An example… When §m£ÂgØL had to get stitches for his hand (Oh yeah, I forgot, the cunt doctor didn't even write an antibiotic script, which for fucks sake, I would have considering we told them it was cut moving aluminum sheeting that had been sitting outside, and in actuality, it was a dog bite, either way, I believe a preemptive course of antibiotics was in order, which is why I put him on bactrim, I believe.) I feel that he should have at least gotten a few days worth of hydrocodone. Since all I had in my arsenal was tramadol, that's what §m£ÂgØL got. I even gave him some somas just to sweeten the pot, and because I felt bad, even though I know that they wouldn't serve much use for his condition, save maybe to help him sleep. The doctor did such a piss poor suture job it made me cringe too… I let him play with my tits while my ex changed his bandages so he wouldn't cry, bitch and/pass out from being a pussy who's squeamish as fuck. That's another form of pain control- distraction.
Now, for what happened… no, I don't think he should have gotten more than a few days worth of pain meds, and nothing stronger than a 7.5mg hydrocodone, but I do believe pain should be taken into consideration, and treated fairly.
Should a stubbed toe get pain killers? Not unless they actually broke their toe or something. Should a paper cut or similar cut? At best a topical anesthetic, like benzocaine or lidocaine.
Also, I do believe one should start somewhere without opioids, unless they're experiencing severe acute pain. In that case, stop the pain, and then figure if something else can work, but no one should be left to suffer if there's something that can help the pain.
You know I'm not one to hop on a bandwagon, but it sounds like you're really rationalizing around a lot.
If you genuinely wanted to die, there are a million and one ways to do it. I have a gun. If I wanted to die, if shoot myself in the skull. But mostly I just want to be better and feel okay.
You can bad mouth the docs all you want, but when it comes down to it, you have an obvious addict coming into their hospital. For all they know, most of your conditions could've been caused by IV drug use. They're not just going to pump you full of drugs and write you a script without a very good reason.They're going to be skeptical of anything you tell them, and they have reason to be.
If you didn't care if they saved your life or not, why not just wait at home and eat cheap fatty frozen food until the inevitable took its course?
I'm just saying, if be a little more appreciative of the people who kept me alive. Even if it was 10 cents worth of stuff, I'd feel shirty about taking their stuff. That's like someone inviting you over for Thanksgiving and then raiding their medicine cabinet. That's junkie shit,and I think you know that.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-12-22 at 9:50 AM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone Hey, Narc, when people post "didnt read", do hyou think they actually believe I give a fuck if they read what I posted or not, or that they somehow think I posted it for them or something? I can't seem to figure it out. I don't read a lot of shit, but I don't waste my time telling the person that. Shit, my feelings aren't hurt if they don't read lol.
Whocares123? I read all your posts and think they're way more interesting than most posters on this site. So their loss if they didn't read.
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2018-12-22 at 9:57 AM UTCHydro triggered all of you cucks LOL
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2018-12-22 at 11:06 AM UTCWhat do you think baby Jesus would think if he knew you were word enhancementing his birthday like that?
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2018-12-22 at 11:08 AM UTCYou're a jedi
