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2018-12-21 at 12:33 PM UTCWhile out smoking late last night, I got talking to this girl just a bit ago. She's a IV user, and her hand was swollen to fuck and back. She'd come here to visit her boyfriend's mother, and just came down to smoke while he was up talking to his mom. I went to my room, got some sterile saline, alcohol, gauze, bandages, and tape, and doctored her hand up. If I would have been home I would have given her some antibiotics, most likely bactrim assuming she wasn't allergic to sulfa drugs, and used some lidocaine to numb out the site, and used a scalpel to open up and drain that abscess.
I encouraged her to go to the ER, but she didn't want to go because of the long wait, and her fear of being labeled a junkie, which I kinda understand. I truly hope that shit doesn't get too bad. If it was treated properly right now, and if I had my first aid kit with me to to do that for her, she likely would be A-okay. This is why I like having a nice, well put together first aid kit, with a little bit of everything to treat all sorts of shit just like with her. She is a prime example of why I hijack so much shit when I come into hospitals, I just wish I had all my shit so I could have properly treated her, and gave her a 10 to 14 day course of bactrim.
She and her boyfriend told me that they are coming up in the morning, and she'd told me while I doctored her up that when she was her about a year ago in the ER that someone had left a bunch of IV catheter starters, and 2 unopened PICC line kits laying about, and she snagged them lol. She told me she'd bring them up to me since she figured I could use them more than she'd ever be able to (she didn't realize what they were at first), and fuck, I honestly think if I do end up staying alive much longer, I always wanted an ultrasound machine, and goddamn it... I'm gonna get one, one of these days. While it's a wee bit more complicated than setting an IV, it's not that hard to put a PICC in, and I'm sure I could master that skill. I'd need to get Sherlock too, so I can guide and confirm placement without a chest x-ray or fluroscopy(same thing, just an x-ray in real time, able to see the movement) to confirm/guide placement.
I just woke up, and got my dose of meds, had a dose before I'd saved, so now I'm feelin' pretty good, especially since I did a wee bit of dope on top. I just got back from smoking, and bullshitting with the security guard. Those guys are pretty cool compared to other places. Mercy sucked. They wouldn't even let me wait in the waiting room for my ride when I got discharged after being there 10 fucking days. I couldn't go out to smoke there either which sucked. Here, they don't care as long as I let my nurse, or just tell the person at the nurses desk that I'm leaving the floor.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-12-21 at 12:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone While out smoking late last night, I got talking to this girl just a bit ago. She's a IV user, and her hand was swollen to fuck and back. She'd come here to visit her boyfriend's mother, and just came down to smoke while he was up talking to his mom. I went to my room, got some sterile saline, alcohol, gauze, bandages, and tape, and doctored her hand up. If I would have been home I would have given her some antibiotics, most likely bactrim assuming she wasn't allergic to sulfa drugs, and used some lidocaine to numb out the site, and used a scalpel to open up and drain that abscess.
I encouraged her to go to the ER, but she didn't want to go because of the long wait, and her fear of being labeled a junkie, which I kinda understand. I truly hope that shit doesn't get too bad. If it was treated properly right now, and if I had my first aid kit with me to to do that for her, she likely would be A-okay. This is why I like having a nice, well put together first aid kit, with a little bit of everything to treat all sorts of shit just like with her. She is a prime example of why I hijack so much shit when I come into hospitals, I just wish I had all my shit so I could have properly treated her, and gave her a 10 to 14 day course of bactrim.
She and her boyfriend told me that they are coming up in the morning, and she'd told me while I doctored her up that when she was her about a year ago in the ER that someone had left a bunch of IV catheter starters, and 2 unopened PICC line kits laying about, and she snagged them lol. She told me she'd bring them up to me since she figured I could use them more than she'd ever be able to (she didn't realize what they were at first), and fuck, I honestly think if I do end up staying alive much longer, I always wanted an ultrasound machine, and goddamn it… I'm gonna get one, one of these days. While it's a wee bit more complicated than setting an IV, it's not that hard to put a PICC in, and I'm sure I could master that skill. I'd need to get Sherlock too, so I can guide and confirm placement without a chest x-ray or fluroscopy(same thing, just an x-ray in real time, able to see the movement) to confirm/guide placement.
I just woke up, and got my dose of meds, had a dose before I'd saved, so now I'm feelin' pretty good, especially since I did a wee bit of dope on top. I just got back from smoking, and bullshitting with the security guard. Those guys are pretty cool compared to other places. Mercy sucked. They wouldn't even let me wait in the waiting room for my ride when I got discharged after being there 10 fucking days. I couldn't go out to smoke there either which sucked. Here, they don't care as long as I let my nurse, or just tell the person at the nurses desk that I'm leaving the floor.
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2018-12-21 at 12:39 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-12-21 at 12:51 PM UTCHydro,
I used to feel bad for you, but you’re just pathetically desperate. Do you actually think you could help others with this stuff? Put a PICC line in someone, you must be joking. Putting an ET tube in someone? You must be joking?
Now, you’ve fucked up your life enough, DO NOT fuck up someone else’s by trying to play doctor.
I guarantee they know that stuff was stolen, and I bet they know it was you. And you wondered why they wanted you off the hospital property before????
You need tons of help, and cutting off your leg ain’t gonna do it.
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2018-12-21 at 12:52 PM UTCI bet she's a better doctor than you are tho
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2018-12-21 at 12:56 PM UTCI never said I was a doctor. I work around that shit all the time. I’ve helped them guide in PICC lines with xray. I’ve also taken xrays for ET tube placement, and even the docs have placed them wrong. I would NEVER attempt that shit and I have far more knowledge than hydro. I accept my place in healthcare.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-12-21 at 2:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist I never said I was a doctor. I work around that shit all the time. I’ve helped them guide in PICC lines with xray. I’ve also taken xrays for ET tube placement, and even the docs have placed them wrong. I would NEVER attempt that shit and I have far more knowledge than hydro. I accept my place in healthcare.
Nahh man, hydro has read like, 118 wikipedia enteries EXACTLY and 21 pubmed abstarcts (not the actual studies). She's a lay doctor now.
Hydro, how do voltage gates work? How does the body use protein to rebuild muscle?
Ouhhh, that information doesn't directly pertain to getting high, therefor hydro has no use for it.
Dr. Hydro. She should be allowed to be a doctor. Just for psych meds tho. It doesn't matter if someone knows about physiology holistically to prescribe psych meds. Hey hydro, what dose of lithium should someone with reduced kidney function receive? Hey hydro, what do you about the reduced kidney function?
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2018-12-21 at 3:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano Hydro, how do voltage gates work? How does the body use protein to rebuild muscle? what dose of lithium should someone with reduced kidney function receive?
I challenge you to find a doctor that can answer these questions off the top of their head.
Most Doctors are too dumb to even read or understand a pubmed study.
I mean do you even realise how dumb 90%+ are? All ego, zero curiosity?.
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2018-12-21 at 3:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by Solstice Don't worry, shit like that is only the tip of the trash iceberg.
Ironic that you of all people would say that. You must be projecting again.
Originally posted by DietPiano Hydro has Munchausens. I used to as well, but I got over it.
Poor hydro. I feel so, so sorry for her. I mean, she had NO CHOICE but to inject T-PAIN and give herself a blood clot :(
Push 10ml of O2. Or stop taking your dilaudid for a few days (yeah right) and mix the dil juice with dope, buy some bars, and down a handle. In the reverse order, please.
Also, aspirate.
I have the email address of the guy in Mexico who sends people bottles of pento. Malice bought from him. Mixed with dope would probably be the best way to go in general.
Fuck, just eat a couple tablespoons of T-PAIN.
All these "seppe slip ups" are indicitive that you like creating drama and staying in the hospital, but have no serious intentions of killing yourself. I don't think you're even aware of this though, as it's probably tied to your unconsciosus mind.
Maybe you, yourself have had Munchausen syndrome, but I definitely do not. I've enough x-rays, CT scans, and MRIs that validate all my physical ailments. I've had blood clots in the past, as well as a pulmonary embolism, the first DVT being before I ever even used IV drugs, and the others occurring during periods when I wasn't using IV, much less before I ever Ived T-PAIN.You kinda can't fake legs swollen 10 times their normal size, that have giant clots, and are constricted to fuck and back. I have a family history of a blood clotting disorder. I've been known to go to labcorp for blood draws and clog their needles quick as shit, and my father has done the same, wit him being worse than me. As for my herniated disc, I've had it since I was 16, I've had many CTs, and MRIs, and if I wasn't in legitimate pain, I highly doubt a doctor would write an underage kid high doses of opiates for 6-7 years (only stopped seeing him because my insurance got fucked up). I nearly died last year due to infection in my knee/thigh near my knee (which I never, ever IVed there, and I was shaving regularly at the time, and always end up nicking my knees when I do. At the time, I was in close contact, changing bandages on a man who had legs that looked like raw meat (due to agent orange exposure in 'Nam) who ad MRSA. 1337 also was staying around the time, and he later found out he had MRSA in his drain sites from his surgery.), and I have a great deal of scar tissue build up in my left knee. It appears to be swollen, but NSAIDs, and even steriods (dexamathasone, the best steroid on the market) doesn't reduce the swelling, so it's no inflammation, nor is there fluid build up. It's been this way since the sugeries, it's just my legs which have swollen, due to the DVTs. They aren't anywhere as painful as the pain caused by my knee. My epilepsy has actually improved, although I have had a few seizures here and there, but it's mainly due to when a very stressful situation occurs. I've only had 2 in the hospital where doctors/nurses seen/were aware, and this was a while back, and it was written off as a drug interaction/side effect, and those medications were stopped. I have not brought up the fact I have suffered with epilepsy since I don't want to lose my drivers license. Hell, the only reason I probably haven't yet is because I never changed my license to my current state I live in, and still have a license from where I moved from, even though it's been 2 1/2 years now.
I've been diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder since I was a teenager, although I've gone well over a decade without being prescribed any medication for it, up until most recently, and about 3 years ago I went to the doctor to get klonopin prescribed not for myself, but for §m£ÂgØL. It's definitely something that has effected my life to varying degrees depending on how bad it's got, based of how rocky or smooth my life circumstances have been, but I personally prefer to go without medication for it since I've gone trough every SSRI, SNRI, TCA, and benzos to treat it with at best it not working and having mild to moderate side effects, and at worse having disastrous results. I haven't been on the MAOI class yet, but given the chance, I might be willing to give it a whirl, based off the information Malice provided when he was here with us.
I don't have 'no choice' when I choose to IV T-PAIN, I consciously choose to do that, when I do, and I do so for a few reasons. Sure, it's likely contributed to the most recent bout of clots, but it definitely isn't the sole reason, as state before, with my history, and family history of DVTs, and PEs. This is why I'm on life long anticoagulants vs. 3-6months of them.
As for an air embolism, trust me, I've considered it, but if I was going to do that, I might as well use maricaine IV. Both are painful ways to go, and while 10ml is the minimum, if I were going to do it, I'd definitely use more than that to be on the safe side.
I'm too broke to pay between 400 (lowest price I've seen), and 700$ for pentobarbital, but I'v considered it, and as for stop taking my dillys for a few days, yes, that would cause me a lot of pain, and one of the biggest reasons I want to die anyway. If anything opioids have kept me at least clinging to some hope of life. If I have them, I will use them, as I don't want to suffer in pain.
I have eaten 10grams of T-PAIN before. Here I am. I took a long nap, and felt sick, and threw up a few hours later. I did this a few times. Tianpetine will not work to kill me. I've also mixed large doses with cocktails of other drugs too, and well... obviously, that didn't work either.
I'm not in the hospital due to anything I did to myself, save somewhat to do with the DVTs, although again, I do have a history of those long before IVing drugs, much less tianpetine was a thing. I'm mainly here because of the osteomyelitis, which has spread, and been there since May, although they are treating my DVTs while here too. -
2018-12-21 at 3:30 PM UTCShe's not. Let me tell you it is no exaggeration when i say she is just eager to use her stolen equipment, and will repeatedly diagnose/give you drugs or try to stick you, regardless of whether or not there's an actual problem.
You'll niggas just read the posts but I've witnessed her play ER doctor/vet irl. And like any doctor, she hasn't been without loss. Although her ratio is certainly less respectable than an accredited doctor. -
2018-12-21 at 3:33 PM UTC*Hydro as a doctor*
"THIS MAN NEEDS OPIATES STAT!"
"But he just got a paper cut"
"TPAIN AND OPIATES, LOTS OF THEM!"The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-12-21 at 3:56 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-12-21 at 4:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone I don't have 'no choice' when I choose to IV T-PAIN, I consciously choose to do that, when I do, and I do so for a few reasons. Sure, it's likely contributed to the most recent bout of clots, but it definitely isn't the sole reason, as state before, with my history, and family history of DVTs, and PEs. This is why I'm on life long anticoagulants vs. 3-6months of them.
To be fair tho hydro, many would say 'why on earth would you do that in the first place if you already suffered from those conditions as you would most likely make them a lot worse?'
But then most of them would be completely ignorant to the nature of drug addiction and its related behavior.
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2018-12-21 at 5:04 PM UTCWhocares123
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2018-12-21 at 6:26 PM UTCShut the fuck up.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-12-21 at 8:15 PM UTCLoing vaping on some tight rite
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2018-12-21 at 10:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Hydro,
Off their property? When I was discharged, and I sat down in the lobby to be picked up, I was told by security to leave AT A DIFFERENT hospital than I'm at now, and beyond a towel, and a couple alcohol pads (seriously, I took the 4 left in my room), i didn't take a single thing. I later followed up with the administration. Apparently, they were concerned I was homeless and they've been told to not allow the homeless, and/or those released from the ER to wait in their lobby. The security was unaware I had been admitted for 10 days.
I used to feel bad for you, but you’re just pathetically desperate. Do you actually think you could help others with this stuff? Put a PICC line in someone, you must be joking. Putting an ET tube in someone? You must be joking?
Now, you’ve fucked up your life enough, DO NOT fuck up someone else’s by trying to play doctor.
I guarantee they know that stuff was stolen, and I bet they know it was you. And you wondered why they wanted you off the hospital property before????
You need tons of help, and cutting off your leg ain’t gonna do it.
Rationalize your actions all you want, that’s nothing but delusion.
As for helping others with the sit I've gotten (and I've bought quite a lot of shit myself, back in the day, when money wasn't such an issue), I have. I have saved lives. Most of those lives happened to be of the animal variety, but a life is a life at the end of the day, and for most things, it's the same, be it a person or animal. Calcium treats ketosis in people as well as cows, goats, horses, and dogs. If it's IVed, it needs to be done very, very, very slowly. I knew a veterinarian who should have known better who ended up killing my friend's cow who had ketosis by quickly IVing calcium. The cow was dead in less than 5 minutes, and resulted in her convulsing right before the end. He also botched a C-section, which frankly, wasn't even worth the time to attempt with the IVed calcium, and the amount of time it took them to even start, much less pull the calf. I'm sure it was worth it to that idiot though with the hefty bill he charged her though.
I've placed a feeding tube (nasogastic tube) down a couple baby goats and calves before, which I never missed, and I had a pretty good success rate of bring the one's I did do that to around. You've got to understand here, that when I began, I didn't have any experience, and just that of my father whom was well versed in veterinary medicine to help me, but he was just there to talk me through it, I had to do it on my own. I was in situations where if I didn't do it, I knew for sure those animals were going to die. At least by doing what I did, I gave them a small glimmer of hope of making it. I've certainly had a high rate of death, but considering when I've gotten the calls, they were already in 'snowball's chance in hell' territory to begin with, and when you're dealing with animals who live outside (and can't really be brought indoors, besides a barn which is just as dirty as outside, with dust and debris floating around), you're not going to see the same success rates you otherwise would see in say a person, who is in a 99% clean and sanitary environment, with the ability to keep the temperature a comfortable 72 degrees no matter what time of year it is. Also, when you're dealing with animals, particularly livestock, it's not like a person who says "hey, I feel terrible, and my throat hurts" days before they develop a cough, so by the time you realize the animal is sick, they usually are a lot sicker than when the treatment for a human would begin, in most cases, anyway.
When shit is serious, I do recommend people go to the ER, or at least their doctor. I've treated people with sutures, who needed it, because first, they weren't going to go anyway, and they didn't have insurance and want that huge bill. I've drained abscesses before too for similar reasons. Unless it was in a life or death situation, where there wasn't time to get them to an ER/EMTs to get to them or no medical help was available, I wouldn't be doing a circothyrotomy, or doing any crazy shit, but I tell you what, I want to prepare for the worst and hope for the best, and often times with animals, it's the case where I treat them or they don't get treated, so I do what I have to do.
I can at least say this when it's come to my animal patients: I've acted when no one else has, or would have, and even if they didn't make it, I gave them a chance they otherwise didn't have, and I went down fighting with them, I gave it my all.
Hell, I saved a 5lb little dog who's back hips got smashed in by her own owners who ran her over. She's alive and well right now and can stand on her hind legs and dance around right now because I gave it the ol' college try, and pulled her through when no one else would have. She also got doped up on percocets my father had just bought because he was going through WDs from his doctor being shut down, and he gave them to this little dog who wasn't even ours, because she was truly suffering in pain.
Everyone, doctors, nurses, plebotomists, IV therapy... they all start somewhere. They all study, they all have their first patient, their first *insert procedure/surgery here*, they all have to begin at the beginning. Now, I have done a lot in my life, but I know I have more to learn, and more experience to gain, more hands on practice to put under my belt, but I'm far from a novice. I didn't go the usual route in learning what I know, but knowledge is all the same, despite where it comes from. Of course, I know there is a lot left to learn, but that's why I continue reading, I continue to pick people's brains who have more knowledge and experience than myself, and that's why I continue the pursuit of gathering such knowledge and experience. I have a passion for medicine, and always have, and I've spent a long time gathering as much knowledge, and experience as I can. Hell, I've been known to teach a doctor a thing or two, an attending at that, even at a hospital as prestigious as Hopkins, and I've also learned a lot from those I've been around too. It goes both ways, and it's called 'practicing' medicine, because one is never done learning.
Originally posted by Technologist I never said I was a doctor. I work around that shit all the time. I’ve helped them guide in PICC lines with xray. I’ve also taken xrays for ET tube placement, and even the docs have placed them wrong. I would NEVER attempt that shit and I have far more knowledge than hydro. I accept my place in healthcare.
Certainly, accept your limitations, and hell, if I worked in healthcare, I wouldn't be doing shit to others outside my job title for fear of losing my job, or worse, getting a malpractice/practicing without a license (which sure I could get the latter, but the people I've doctored up aren't going to do that anyway, and I'm not going to be doing any serious shit on someone again unless it's life or death, and there's no other option.)
Just because someone has the title of a doctor, or a veterinarian , or whatever else their title is, doesn't mean they SHOULD be practicing, or that they know what they're doing. You're very naive or an idiot if you think otherwise. Certainly, there are many, many competent folks in their field, but to think there aren't some who fall through the cracks, cheat their way through, or somehow manage to make it through medical school/nursing school, that's just wishful thinking, and not reality at all.
Originally posted by DietPiano Nahh man, hydro has read like, 118 wikipedia enteries EXACTLY and 21 pubmed abstarcts (not the actual studies). She's a lay doctor now.
Hydro, how do voltage gates work? How does the body use protein to rebuild muscle?
Ouhhh, that information doesn't directly pertain to getting high, therefor hydro has no use for it.
Dr. Hydro. She should be allowed to be a doctor. Just for psych meds tho. It doesn't matter if someone knows about physiology holistically to prescribe psych meds. Hey hydro, what dose of lithium should someone with reduced kidney function receive? Hey hydro, what do you about the reduced kidney function?
I wouldn't trust hire her to work at my donut shop. She'd cut her finger on grease and give people people 3rd hand acaradiasis.
Voltage gates work by being responsive to voltage potential which affects ions passing into a cell membrane since they usually can't get through otherwise. They regulate how much gets through by being open for short periods, by being affected by the concentration of ions, and opening and closing, or being inactive based on the changes in polarity on both sides of the cell membrane.
When you consume protein, it's broken down into amino acids that form peptides which go to te liver where the liver synthesizes proteins which are sent to the sites needed to repair muscles, and the DNA gives instruction on how the aminos are woven together to repair/build muscle.
In a nut shell. Of course there's a lot more complex shit going on with those two different things, but for the sake of time, and just to give you a rough explanation, there ya go.
Dude, I don't know why you've got so hung up about opioids just because I use them to treat chronic pain. I think maybe you have more of a problem here than I do. Just because someone uses a drug to improve their quality of life, and that drug happens to be opioids, it doesn't mean they know nothing about other biological functions. I am aware there is more to medicine than opioids, and more ways than opioids to treat pain too. Don't think I haven't tried more than opioids to reduce my pain either. I take gabapentin, and I'm on 1,200mg tid. It helps with the neuropathy pain I experience from the surgeries, and also with my anxiety. (I originally was prescribed it at 100mg for anxiety, then went up to 300mg prior to having surgery.) Hell, when pain is caused by inflammation, NSAIDs and steroids can do a great job of alleviating pain, just by reducing the pressure, and swelling inflammation can cause. They also have risks that opioids don't have too. (Like, I'm kinda scratching my head on why my doctors have me on ibprofen, naproxen, intermittent keterolac and then decide to throw celebrex in the mix when I'm on warfrin... I would say that okay, one, fine, but the risk increases of GI bleeding when you throw in celebrex by a lot on it's own not to mention with an NSAID, not one but two regular, and the other spotted... I wouldn't make that call... I wouldn't want to risk it.)
Frankly, you have it in your head as to who I am, and what I know, when in truth, you know jack shit about who I am, and especially about what I know. I've forgotten more than all the knowledge you possess in your wee bitty brain there more than likely. I don't know though. I am not going to claim to know ALL about you just from a few posts on a forum though. What I do know is, is that you're the sort who thinks they know it all just from the first layer they see of a person, and from experience, people like that tend to stay ignorant, at least in the ways of learning about the people around them.
Originally posted by GGG She's not. Let me tell you it is no exaggeration when i say she is just eager to use her stolen equipment, and will repeatedly diagnose/give you drugs or try to stick you, regardless of whether or not there's an actual problem.
You'll niggas just read the posts but I've witnessed her play ER doctor/vet irl. And like any doctor, she hasn't been without loss. Although her ratio is certainly less respectable than an accredited doctor.
Well, I wasn't wrong with your diagnosis, and you sure didn't have an issue with taking the drugs I gave you. Certainly, I would have "prescribed" other things, but I did the best with what I had, you have to remember. You dealt with a shitty doctor, who did a shitty suture job, and didn't even prescribe you a days worth of pain meds, and I don't even believe gave you shit to change your dressing even (I believe with the latter, but I could be wrong... but I'm pretty sure we had to use the shit I had on hand). I was also on the money about your lovely persistent yeast infection too, and the fact that you kept reinfecting yourself by not cleaning your fucky toys properly.
My ratio may be less, but the odds against me have been worse than that of accredited doctors. For one, they have access to every pharmaceutical on the market, and in a hospital setting, price isn't an object when it comes down to saving a life. Another thing, animals have far different living situations than humans, and animals can't really tell you when they come down with a cold, or when something is wrong. You have to see it, and hope you catch it early, but sometimes you don't so youre dealing with something that's gone way past the point most human beings have been seen and admitted in the hospital.
Considering all the fucking odds against me, I've done a pretty damn good job. When fucking sodium chloride got made RX only for vet use, I didn't fucking flinch. I fucking got distilled water, and figured out the ratio of salt to add, and fucking had to SubQ it to a dog who was so dehydrated I couldn't get an IV in her. Finally did get her hydrated enough for an IV, and set her up. I couldn't tell she'd been bitten by a rattle snake until days later when the site when necrotic and opened up (a person would have said "I was bit by a fucking snake!!!" she couldn't.). She's alive today because I said FUCK THE MAN and fucking did it myself, and then said fuck your precious bagged sodium chloride, I'll fucking MAKE MY OWN. I sure wasn't going to stand by and let my dog die, I had to do something.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-12-21 at 10:19 PM UTCMy grandfather had aspirations of becoming a doctor, but they never materialized. Later in life, he had a sick dog who he was very attached to. Refusing to consult a proper authority on the subject out of spite for his lost career, he employed what little medical understanding he had at his disposal and proceeded to treat, operate, etc. The dog became his project of disease. This continued miserably until the dog eventually died in a truly awful state that shocked and appalled the people around him. I realize that you thought you were doing the right thing, but giving clandestine medical treatment to a wounded animal does not indicate virtue; more likely, its opposite. I hope that you pay a veterinarian for their expertise in the future, especially for something as serious as a snake bite.
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2018-12-21 at 10:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost *Hydro as a doctor*
"THIS MAN NEEDS OPIATES STAT!"
"But he just got a paper cut"
"TPAIN AND OPIATES, LOTS OF THEM!"
Honestly, if that person was expressing pain, I'd just go with a topical anesthetic at the most.
Look, I don't believe people should be in pain, but there has to be a line. An example... When §m£ÂgØL had to get stitches for his hand (Oh yeah, I forgot, the cunt doctor didn't even write an antibiotic script, which for fucks sake, I would have considering we told them it was cut moving aluminum sheeting that had been sitting outside, and in actuality, it was a dog bite, either way, I believe a preemptive course of antibiotics was in order, which is why I put him on bactrim, I believe.) I feel that he should have at least gotten a few days worth of hydrocodone. Since all I had in my arsenal was tramadol, that's what §m£ÂgØL got. I even gave him some somas just to sweeten the pot, and because I felt bad, even though I know that they wouldn't serve much use for his condition, save maybe to help him sleep. The doctor did such a piss poor suture job it made me cringe too... I let him play with my tits while my ex changed his bandages so he wouldn't cry, bitch and/pass out from being a pussy who's squeamish as fuck. That's another form of pain control- distraction.
Now, for what happened... no, I don't think he should have gotten more than a few days worth of pain meds, and nothing stronger than a 7.5mg hydrocodone, but I do believe pain should be taken into consideration, and treated fairly.
Should a stubbed toe get pain killers? Not unless they actually broke their toe or something. Should a paper cut or similar cut? At best a topical anesthetic, like benzocaine or lidocaine.
Also, I do believe one should start somewhere without opioids, unless they're experiencing severe acute pain. In that case, stop the pain, and then figure if something else can work, but no one should be left to suffer if there's something that can help the pain. -
2018-12-21 at 10:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone Off their property? When I was discharged, and I sat down in the lobby to be picked up, I was told by security to leave AT A DIFFERENT hospital than I'm at now, and beyond a towel, and a couple alcohol pads (seriously, I took the 4 left in my room), i didn't take a single thing. I later followed up with the administration. Apparently, they were concerned I was homeless and they've been told to not allow the homeless, and/or those released from the ER to wait in their lobby. The security was unaware I had been admitted for 10 days.
As for helping others with the sit I've gotten (and I've bought quite a lot of shit myself, back in the day, when money wasn't such an issue), I have. I have saved lives. Most of those lives happened to be of the animal variety, but a life is a life at the end of the day, and for most things, it's the same, be it a person or animal. Calcium treats ketosis in people as well as cows, goats, horses, and dogs. If it's IVed, it needs to be done very, very, very slowly. I knew a veterinarian who should have known better who ended up killing my friend's cow who had ketosis by quickly IVing calcium. The cow was dead in less than 5 minutes, and resulted in her convulsing right before the end. He also botched a C-section, which frankly, wasn't even worth the time to attempt with the IVed calcium, and the amount of time it took them to even start, much less pull the calf. I'm sure it was worth it to that idiot though with the hefty bill he charged her though.
I've placed a feeding tube (nasogastic tube) down a couple baby goats and calves before, which I never missed, and I had a pretty good success rate of bring the one's I did do that to around. You've got to understand here, that when I began, I didn't have any experience, and just that of my father whom was well versed in veterinary medicine to help me, but he was just there to talk me through it, I had to do it on my own. I was in situations where if I didn't do it, I knew for sure those animals were going to die. At least by doing what I did, I gave them a small glimmer of hope of making it. I've certainly had a high rate of death, but considering when I've gotten the calls, they were already in 'snowball's chance in hell' territory to begin with, and when you're dealing with animals who live outside (and can't really be brought indoors, besides a barn which is just as dirty as outside, with dust and debris floating around), you're not going to see the same success rates you otherwise would see in say a person, who is in a 99% clean and sanitary environment, with the ability to keep the temperature a comfortable 72 degrees no matter what time of year it is. Also, when you're dealing with animals, particularly livestock, it's not like a person who says "hey, I feel terrible, and my throat hurts" days before they develop a cough, so by the time you realize the animal is sick, they usually are a lot sicker than when the treatment for a human would begin, in most cases, anyway.
When shit is serious, I do recommend people go to the ER, or at least their doctor. I've treated people with sutures, who needed it, because first, they weren't going to go anyway, and they didn't have insurance and want that huge bill. I've drained abscesses before too for similar reasons. Unless it was in a life or death situation, where there wasn't time to get them to an ER/EMTs to get to them or no medical help was available, I wouldn't be doing a circothyrotomy, or doing any crazy shit, but I tell you what, I want to prepare for the worst and hope for the best, and often times with animals, it's the case where I treat them or they don't get treated, so I do what I have to do.
I can at least say this when it's come to my animal patients: I've acted when no one else has, or would have, and even if they didn't make it, I gave them a chance they otherwise didn't have, and I went down fighting with them, I gave it my all.
Hell, I saved a 5lb little dog who's back hips got smashed in by her own owners who ran her over. She's alive and well right now and can stand on her hind legs and dance around right now because I gave it the ol' college try, and pulled her through when no one else would have. She also got doped up on percocets my father had just bought because he was going through WDs from his doctor being shut down, and he gave them to this little dog who wasn't even ours, because she was truly suffering in pain.
Everyone, doctors, nurses, plebotomists, IV therapy… they all start somewhere. They all study, they all have their first patient, their first *insert procedure/surgery here*, they all have to begin at the beginning. Now, I have done a lot in my life, but I know I have more to learn, and more experience to gain, more hands on practice to put under my belt, but I'm far from a novice. I didn't go the usual route in learning what I know, but knowledge is all the same, despite where it comes from. Of course, I know there is a lot left to learn, but that's why I continue reading, I continue to pick people's brains who have more knowledge and experience than myself, and that's why I continue the pursuit of gathering such knowledge and experience. I have a passion for medicine, and always have, and I've spent a long time gathering as much knowledge, and experience as I can. Hell, I've been known to teach a doctor a thing or two, an attending at that, even at a hospital as prestigious as Hopkins, and I've also learned a lot from those I've been around too. It goes both ways, and it's called 'practicing' medicine, because one is never done learning.
Certainly, accept your limitations, and hell, if I worked in healthcare, I wouldn't be doing shit to others outside my job title for fear of losing my job, or worse, getting a malpractice/practicing without a license (which sure I could get the latter, but the people I've doctored up aren't going to do that anyway, and I'm not going to be doing any serious shit on someone again unless it's life or death, and there's no other option.)
Just because someone has the title of a doctor, or a veterinarian , or whatever else their title is, doesn't mean they SHOULD be practicing, or that they know what they're doing. You're very naive or an idiot if you think otherwise. Certainly, there are many, many competent folks in their field, but to think there aren't some who fall through the cracks, cheat their way through, or somehow manage to make it through medical school/nursing school, that's just wishful thinking, and not reality at all.
Voltage gates work by being responsive to voltage potential which affects ions passing into a cell membrane since they usually can't get through otherwise. They regulate how much gets through by being open for short periods, by being affected by the concentration of ions, and opening and closing, or being inactive based on the changes in polarity on both sides of the cell membrane.
When you consume protein, it's broken down into amino acids that form peptides which go to te liver where the liver synthesizes proteins which are sent to the sites needed to repair muscles, and the DNA gives instruction on how the aminos are woven together to repair/build muscle.
In a nut shell. Of course there's a lot more complex shit going on with those two different things, but for the sake of time, and just to give you a rough explanation, there ya go.
Dude, I don't know why you've got so hung up about opioids just because I use them to treat chronic pain. I think maybe you have more of a problem here than I do. Just because someone uses a drug to improve their quality of life, and that drug happens to be opioids, it doesn't mean they know nothing about other biological functions. I am aware there is more to medicine than opioids, and more ways than opioids to treat pain too. Don't think I haven't tried more than opioids to reduce my pain either. I take gabapentin, and I'm on 1,200mg tid. It helps with the neuropathy pain I experience from the surgeries, and also with my anxiety. (I originally was prescribed it at 100mg for anxiety, then went up to 300mg prior to having surgery.) Hell, when pain is caused by inflammation, NSAIDs and steroids can do a great job of alleviating pain, just by reducing the pressure, and swelling inflammation can cause. They also have risks that opioids don't have too. (Like, I'm kinda scratching my head on why my doctors have me on ibprofen, naproxen, intermittent keterolac and then decide to throw celebrex in the mix when I'm on warfrin… I would say that okay, one, fine, but the risk increases of GI bleeding when you throw in celebrex by a lot on it's own not to mention with an NSAID, not one but two regular, and the other spotted… I wouldn't make that call… I wouldn't want to risk it.)
Frankly, you have it in your head as to who I am, and what I know, when in truth, you know jack shit about who I am, and especially about what I know. I've forgotten more than all the knowledge you possess in your wee bitty brain there more than likely. I don't know though. I am not going to claim to know ALL about you just from a few posts on a forum though. What I do know is, is that you're the sort who thinks they know it all just from the first layer they see of a person, and from experience, people like that tend to stay ignorant, at least in the ways of learning about the people around them.
Well, I wasn't wrong with your diagnosis, and you sure didn't have an issue with taking the drugs I gave you. Certainly, I would have "prescribed" other things, but I did the best with what I had, you have to remember. You dealt with a shitty doctor, who did a shitty suture job, and didn't even prescribe you a days worth of pain meds, and I don't even believe gave you shit to change your dressing even (I believe with the latter, but I could be wrong… but I'm pretty sure we had to use the shit I had on hand). I was also on the money about your lovely persistent yeast infection too, and the fact that you kept reinfecting yourself by not cleaning your fucky toys properly.
My ratio may be less, but the odds against me have been worse than that of accredited doctors. For one, they have access to every pharmaceutical on the market, and in a hospital setting, price isn't an object when it comes down to saving a life. Another thing, animals have far different living situations than humans, and animals can't really tell you when they come down with a cold, or when something is wrong. You have to see it, and hope you catch it early, but sometimes you don't so youre dealing with something that's gone way past the point most human beings have been seen and admitted in the hospital.
Considering all the fucking odds against me, I've done a pretty damn good job. When fucking sodium chloride got made RX only for vet use, I didn't fucking flinch. I fucking got distilled water, and figured out the ratio of salt to add, and fucking had to SubQ it to a dog who was so dehydrated I couldn't get an IV in her. Finally did get her hydrated enough for an IV, and set her up. I couldn't tell she'd been bitten by a rattle snake until days later when the site when necrotic and opened up (a person would have said "I was bit by a fucking snake!!!" she couldn't.). She's alive today because I said FUCK THE MAN and fucking did it myself, and then said fuck your precious bagged sodium chloride, I'll fucking MAKE MY OWN. I sure wasn't going to stand by and let my dog die, I had to do something.
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