2018-12-18 at 2:14 AM UTC
gadzooks
Dark Matter
[keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
Okay, there is a lot of talk about this benzo vs that benzo in here.
Having tried all of the following variations of benzodiazepines, and having had multiple legitimate prescriptions throughout my life, I will describe and somewhat compare them:
-- Clonazepam (AKA: Klonopin, or k-pins) are the longest lasting of the ones I've tried. I used to have a regular, very high-dose prescription (2mg * 4 times daily). I was a walking zombie.
-- Diazepam (AKA: Valium) are more middle-ground in terms of half-life. I've only dabbled in diazepam, but it ain't too bad.
-- Lorazepam (AKA: Atavan) are shorter lasting, I believe, but also seem to have a higher tendency than other benzos to induce amnesia. I mean, they all cause amnesia if you take enough, or mix them with alcohol, but lorazepam seems to be especially amnesic, so I avoid it for the most part.
-- Alprazolam (AKA: Xanax, xannies, bars, etc) are the shortest lasting of all (well-known) benzodiazepines. This can be an advantage if you have intermittent panic disorders.
-- Phenazepam (AKA: That-which-must-never-be-tried) might actually be longer lasting than clonazepam. You don't hear much about it anymore. It is/was a research chemical that you could only get as a pure powder, and it was active at SUB-MILLIGRAM levels. You NEED a highly sensitive digital scale to deal with phenazepam, and even then, just don't. Please. If you need any further dissuading, google "phenazepam horror stories", or even "took phenazepam and woke up in jail" or "took phenazepam and woke up in hospital with 72 stiches", or "took phenazepam and woke up in my truck crashed into a ditch somewhere, bleeding profusely".
-- Etizolam (AKA: Another-research-chemical-benzo-possibly-worth-experimenting-with). My experiences with etizolam have been mixed. I'm sure others here have done it a lot more than I have.
2018-12-18 at 2:48 AM UTC
one of the things about valiums vs xanax is valiums take 90 minutes until they hit their full potential and last for hours and hours.
xanax will come on in 15-20 minutes (faster if you do like I do and chew half of it and swallow and stick the other under your tongue.. about 10 minutes and its totally kicked in) they last about 3 hours. but I have to say they will make you groggy the next day. even one. at least for me. it takes a few days before I am wide awake again. especially if I take them multiple times in a day. I don't take them everyday and this helps when I do need them.
2018-12-18 at 10:08 AM UTC
Narc
Naturally Camouflaged
[connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
Are you all mixing Valium and xanax up or summing? Valium lasts only an hour or two at most. Xanax will have you buzzing all fucking day, lol.
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2018-12-18 at 11:48 AM UTC
gadzooks
Dark Matter
[keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
Etizolam: 1-2 / 1-2 / 6 hours (=0.25d)
Lorazepam: 1 / 2-4 / 9.5–20 hours (14.75h=0.61d)
Alprazolam: 0.5-1 / 1-2 / 10–20 hours (15h=0.62d)
Clonazepam: 0.25-0.5 / 1-4 / 19.5–50 hours (34.75h=1.45d)
Phenazepam: NOT AVAILABLE / 1.5-4 / 60 hours (=2.5d)
Diazepam: 10 / 1-1.5 / 32–47 hours [32–205] (39.5h=1.64d [118.5h=4.94d]
2018-12-18 at 11:50 AM UTC
gadzooks
Dark Matter
[keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
My purely qualitative experience-base estimates might have been a tad off.
But they were closer than I'd have even guessed.
For the record, there are three values associated with each benzo (and they are sorted by the third one):
1. Equivalent dose do Diazepam.
2. TIme to onset.
3. Half-life.
2018-12-19 at 3:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks
Etizolam: 1-2 / 1-2 / 6 hours (=0.25d)
Lorazepam: 1 / 2-4 / 9.5–20 hours (14.75h=0.61d)
Alprazolam: 0.5-1 / 1-2 / 10–20 hours (15h=0.62d)
Clonazepam: 0.25-0.5 / 1-4 / 19.5–50 hours (34.75h=1.45d)
Phenazepam: NOT AVAILABLE / 1.5-4 / 60 hours (=2.5d)
Diazepam: 10 / 1-1.5 / 32–47 hours [32–205] (39.5h=1.64d [118.5h=4.94d]
No wonder I am tired as fuck the next day on Xanax
20 fucking hours? shit.
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2018-12-19 at 4:02 AM UTC
I kinda like xanax's afterglow. its like you feel discoordinated but yet you have full coordination.
