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  1. #21
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Okay, there is a lot of talk about this benzo vs that benzo in here.

    Having tried all of the following variations of benzodiazepines, and having had multiple legitimate prescriptions throughout my life, I will describe and somewhat compare them:
    -- Clonazepam (AKA: Klonopin, or k-pins) are the longest lasting of the ones I've tried. I used to have a regular, very high-dose prescription (2mg * 4 times daily). I was a walking zombie.
    -- Diazepam (AKA: Valium) are more middle-ground in terms of half-life. I've only dabbled in diazepam, but it ain't too bad.
    -- Lorazepam (AKA: Atavan) are shorter lasting, I believe, but also seem to have a higher tendency than other benzos to induce amnesia. I mean, they all cause amnesia if you take enough, or mix them with alcohol, but lorazepam seems to be especially amnesic, so I avoid it for the most part.
    -- Alprazolam (AKA: Xanax, xannies, bars, etc) are the shortest lasting of all (well-known) benzodiazepines. This can be an advantage if you have intermittent panic disorders.
    -- Phenazepam (AKA: That-which-must-never-be-tried) might actually be longer lasting than clonazepam. You don't hear much about it anymore. It is/was a research chemical that you could only get as a pure powder, and it was active at SUB-MILLIGRAM levels. You NEED a highly sensitive digital scale to deal with phenazepam, and even then, just don't. Please. If you need any further dissuading, google "phenazepam horror stories", or even "took phenazepam and woke up in jail" or "took phenazepam and woke up in hospital with 72 stiches", or "took phenazepam and woke up in my truck crashed into a ditch somewhere, bleeding profusely".
    -- Etizolam (AKA: Another-research-chemical-benzo-possibly-worth-experimenting-with). My experiences with etizolam have been mixed. I'm sure others here have done it a lot more than I have.
  2. #22
    totse3.com Space Nigga
    one of the things about valiums vs xanax is valiums take 90 minutes until they hit their full potential and last for hours and hours.

    xanax will come on in 15-20 minutes (faster if you do like I do and chew half of it and swallow and stick the other under your tongue.. about 10 minutes and its totally kicked in) they last about 3 hours. but I have to say they will make you groggy the next day. even one. at least for me. it takes a few days before I am wide awake again. especially if I take them multiple times in a day. I don't take them everyday and this helps when I do need them.
  3. #23
    Item 9 African Astronaut
    Originally posted by totse3.com I noticed my bag of emergency xanax is missing all but one.

    nuff said
  4. #24
    Narc Naturally Camouflaged [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Are you all mixing Valium and xanax up or summing? Valium lasts only an hour or two at most. Xanax will have you buzzing all fucking day, lol.



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  5. #25
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Etizolam: 1-2 / 1-2 / 6 hours (=0.25d)

    Lorazepam: 1 / 2-4 / 9.5–20 hours (14.75h=0.61d)

    Alprazolam: 0.5-1 / 1-2 / 10–20 hours (15h=0.62d)

    Clonazepam: 0.25-0.5 / 1-4 / 19.5–50 hours (34.75h=1.45d)

    Phenazepam: NOT AVAILABLE / 1.5-4 / 60 hours (=2.5d)

    Diazepam: 10 / 1-1.5 / 32–47 hours [32–205] (39.5h=1.64d [118.5h=4.94d]
  6. #26
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    My purely qualitative experience-base estimates might have been a tad off.

    But they were closer than I'd have even guessed.

    For the record, there are three values associated with each benzo (and they are sorted by the third one):

    1. Equivalent dose do Diazepam.
    2. TIme to onset.
    3. Half-life.
  7. #27
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Narc And Valium is literally the exact same buzz yet only lasts about an hour or two.

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    An hour or two on Valium? What are you? Stupid, or just contrarian?
  8. #28
    totse3.com Space Nigga
    Originally posted by gadzooks Etizolam: 1-2 / 1-2 / 6 hours (=0.25d)

    Lorazepam: 1 / 2-4 / 9.5–20 hours (14.75h=0.61d)

    Alprazolam: 0.5-1 / 1-2 / 10–20 hours (15h=0.62d)

    Clonazepam: 0.25-0.5 / 1-4 / 19.5–50 hours (34.75h=1.45d)

    Phenazepam: NOT AVAILABLE / 1.5-4 / 60 hours (=2.5d)

    Diazepam: 10 / 1-1.5 / 32–47 hours [32–205] (39.5h=1.64d [118.5h=4.94d]

    No wonder I am tired as fuck the next day on Xanax

    20 fucking hours? shit.
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  9. #29
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by totse3.com No wonder I am tired as fuck the next day on Xanax

    20 fucking hours? shit.

    I was pretty shocked myself.

    The word on the street is that Xanax is fast-acting.

    I think the confusion comes from the fact that it kicks in relatively quickly, but also happens to have a long-ish half-life.
  10. #30
    totse3.com Space Nigga
    Originally posted by gadzooks I was pretty shocked myself.

    The word on the street is that Xanax is fast-acting.

    I think the confusion comes from the fact that it kicks in relatively quickly, but also happens to have a long-ish half-life.

    I was saying this but I didn't know it lasted that long. I just chew on it and place part of it under the tongue.. seems to work. maybe it absorbs faster. kind of like when you're having heart problems and they spray that shit under your tongue. also I was told to chew an aspirin and stick it under the tongue before swallowing it if you are having chest pains.
  11. #31
    Item 9 African Astronaut
    I kinda like xanax's afterglow. its like you feel discoordinated but yet you have full coordination.
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