Originally posted by Lanny
Great, we agree.
How boring
I agree that the way our society is organized today is failing to meet the needs of the population. I don't think we can really call the current state of affairs "liberalism". I'll agree there are some ways in which our society has discarded elements of the traditional without sufficient replacements, in particular many of our unifying institutions like religion or cultural homogeneity are dead, at least here in the US, with no real substitute and that causes bad things (like the extremely polarized political sentiment that we've seen in this very thread). But in other arenas there's a toxic and dogmatic clinging to the traditional including most American nationalist sentiment (although this isn't as old of a tradition as people seem to think), neo-colonialism, and our views on the relationship between the capital holding and working classes. Basically our society is more complex than "liberals bad!"
The saying that states that the dumb as sure of themselves, while the smart are unsure of themselves applies in this situation.
We've been jedied by our own sense of honesty.
and if you want to chalk every social failure up to the jedis then go for it, but at least realize this secret jedi cabal you blame everything on can't possibly be exclusively liberal in its views.
I think the secret jedi kvetch, who aren't really secret, are as unliberal as they come.
Eg.
https://dailystormer.name/soros-and-brexit-jedis-openly-conspire-against-you-then-claim-it-is-a-conspiracy-theory-they-are-conspiring-against-you/Like Irving or William Kristol, who could well be clones of each other, might as well be from the 2nd Century - AD or BC, doesn't matter, it's like -40°C or -40°F, it makes no difference either way.
TLDR jedis propose liberalism to people like you, but they think like people like me.
They make shit up just to win.
