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2018-11-27 at 3:45 AM UTC
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2018-11-27 at 3:46 AM UTC
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2018-11-27 at 4:01 AM UTCthe LORD can also give you respite from suffering, as gay as it is to say, conscious contact with a higher power alleviates pain I experience on a daily basis. God, rough sex and painkillers
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2018-11-27 at 4:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo the LORD can also give you respite from suffering, as gay as it is to say, conscious contact with a higher power alleviates pain I experience on a daily basis. God, rough sex and painkillers
I can't bring myself to believe in any higher power and it makes me sad. So i guess, confirmed but in reverse.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-11-27 at 4:15 AM UTC
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2018-11-27 at 4:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie I can't bring myself to believe in any higher power and it makes me sad. So i guess, confirmed but in reverse.
A lot of people have problems with that because they think of a higher power too literally. Are humans really the top of the evolutionary chain? Is there no guiding force in the world beyond Adam Smith's invisible hand of self interest? These are literally the two best reasons to drink but if you answer "no" to either of these questions (or a possible plethora of others) then you are ready to believe in a higher power so please send 19.95 to the PTL group 126 godforsaken street, buttfuckington Alabama as well as a list of all the rich lonely people you know, thank you -
2018-11-27 at 4:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo A lot of people have problems with that because they think of a higher power too literally.
But Sky Dad is my favorite kind of higher power.
Originally posted by Sudo Are humans really the top of the evolutionary chain?
I don't presume to judge myself the most high.
Originally posted by Sudo Is there no guiding force in the world beyond Adam Smith's invisible hand of self interest?
I would hope there is.
Originally posted by Sudo These are literally the two best reasons to drink but if you answer "no" to either of these questions (or a possible plethora of others) then you are ready to believe in a higher power so please send 19.95 to the PTL group 126 godforsaken street, buttfuckington Alabama as well as a list of all the rich lonely people you know, thank you
Amen. And it's not that i am not ready to believe in the LORD or any or kind of "higher power" as long as it falls under the "intelligent design" umbrella but it would feel intellectually dishonest to myself because all of my life experience says to me. There is no grand master plan there is no design. And when i try to make sense of the world, the only thing that comes up is science. -
2018-11-27 at 4:33 AM UTCHIGHER POWER (or else)
I was in a a spriuality group in rehab with a Spiritual Counselor who asked us about our concerns with grabbing onto a higher power. Remember, it's not about going to GOD, it's about finding God as you understand him and submitting to him/it/whatever. She rode me and rode me down the train and asked me "Do you think there is anything bigger than yourself? (Surely) something else must be smarter, or at least bigger than yourself right? Something that knows more about this existence ???"
I spent about 5 minutes explaining my views, and towards the end said something to the effect of "In a sense, I believe I am God, in that I am 100% responsible for myself. Nothing else is going to guide me but myself. I can't prove that anything exists but myself, so I assume that a higher power doesn't exist until I'm proven otherwise."
She had a Master's degree in Lutheran Theology. She didn't look at me again after that.
Now, I wouldn't have said it had I believed it wasn't appropriate for the group, and my judgement was correct. It didn't affect the group or anything because it was relevant and insightful given the context of the group. However, it is supportive to know that my position can't really be argued against, because the reasoning is sound.
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2018-11-27 at 4:37 AM UTC
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2018-11-27 at 4:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano HIGHER POWER (or else)
I was in a a spriuality group in rehab with a Spiritual Counselor who asked us about our concerns with grabbing onto a higher power. Remember, it's not about going to GOD, it's about finding God as you understand him and submitting to him/it/whatever. She rode me and rode me down the train and asked me "Do you think there is anything bigger than yourself? (Surely) something else must be smarter, or at least bigger than yourself right? Something that knows more about this existence ???"
I spent about 5 minutes explaining my views, and towards the end said something to the effect of "In a sense, I believe I am God, in that I am 100% responsible for myself. Nothing else is going to guide me but myself. I can't prove that anything exists but myself, so I assume that a higher power doesn't exist until I'm proven otherwise."
She had a Master's degree in Lutheran Theology. She didn't look at me again after that.
Now, I wouldn't have said it had I believed it wasn't appropriate for the group, and my judgement was correct. It didn't affect the group or anything because it was relevant and insightful given the context of the group. However, it is supportive to know that my position can't really be argued against, because the reasoning is sound.
Sounds supremely selfish. But the fact you offset it by taking full responsibility redeems you in a way. If you can only prove that you exist yourself. Cogito ergo [DIM FUCKING]sum style, why would you even bother with being nice to other people. For all you know they don't exist right? Why should you be kind to none existence? -
2018-11-27 at 4:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano If one such as myself doesn't necessarily believe in hope, is hope then a pointless concept?
talk to me bby
Not really because it doesn't affect me whether or not you believe in hope or not. I hope, i don't have to believe in it. I experience the emotional state from time to time. -
2018-11-27 at 4:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Amen. And it's not that i am not ready to believe in the LORD or any or kind of "higher power" as long as it falls under the "intelligent design" umbrella but it would feel intellectually dishonest to myself because all of my life experience says to me. There is no grand master plan there is no design. And when i try to make sense of the world, the only thing that comes up is science.
That's fair but science and religion aren't mutually exclusive. Science is an incredibly important thing to believe in but so is a human cause for good as wished for by an entity greater than ourselves. God, Allah, Lord etc are all an unfathomable concept, if you agree that you can't fathom it you accept that it can exist. My faith wanes and strengthens sometimes. I find It's easier to find a higher power in yourself by being alone and letting things wash through you (and also actually thinking about the world and your life) and then you gain an understanding of what that power means to you. Fuck it could even be climate change ffs, you can say it's all scientifically proven 100% but it isn't and nothing can be purely broken down into math. Or it could be the intelligent design of mathematics and the being that created the need for it in the first place. If you seek God you will find him. If you do your best to refute any chance of his existence because you have a neckbeard, a fedora and a copy of the scopes monkey trial in hardcover, you're going to be enlightened by your own euphoria. -
2018-11-27 at 4:56 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Sounds supremely selfish. But the fact you offset it by taking full responsibility redeems you in a way. If you can only prove that you exist yourself. Cogito ergo [DIM FUCKING]sum style, why would you even bother with being nice to other people. For all you know they don't exist right? Why should you be kind to none existence?
I can't prove they exist, but I'm pretty damn sure they exist.
Even if I don't KNOW they exist, that doesn't mean that I'm going to act as if there are no consequences for my actions. I may be God, and I also very well may not be, but I don't have hard evidence of that. If I am God, I don't think I necessarily have control over what happens. Maybe I do, but probably not (in the way we generally perceive the concept of control). -
2018-11-27 at 4:57 AM UTCA Creator is proven beyond all doubt simply by observing the carefully constructed complexity of the world around us. Nothing else is required to believe.
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2018-11-27 at 4:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo That's fair but science and religion aren't mutually exclusive. Science is an incredibly important thing to believe in but so is a human cause for good as wished for by an entity greater than ourselves.
I don't fundamentally believe it's about a human cause for good. I think people can be plenty good without god. There shouldn't have to be [insert equivalent of hell] for people to be good. It would just be nice to know that somewhere out there, there's someone looking out for me. Who makes sure i'll make it even through the worst times. And who has a place for me after death. That would be real nice, you know?
Originally posted by Sudo God, Allah, Lord etc are all an unfathomable concept, if you agree that you can't fathom it you accept that it can exist. My faith wanes and strengthens sometimes. I find It's easier to find a higher power in yourself by being alone and letting things wash through you (and also actually thinking about the world and your life) and then you gain an understanding of what that power means to you. Fuck it could even be climate change ffs, you can say it's all scientifically proven 100% but it isn't and nothing can be purely broken down into math. Or it could be the intelligent design of mathematics and the being that created the need for it in the first place. If you seek God you will find him. If you do your best to refute any chance of his existence because you have a neckbeard, a fedora and a copy of the scopes monkey trial in hardcover, you're going to be enlightened by your own euphoria.
I think about the world and my life a lot and in general. The Universe too and the shear scale of things. And it's beautiful and wonderful, the Universe that is. But it feels empty and lonely and kind of pointless without God.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-11-27 at 5 AM UTCserquel 25miggies
In the state of Minnesota you have sign a waiver in order to be prescribed an antipsychotic, because there's about a 40% chance you'll develop a serious medical condition as a result of taking it for longer than short term use.
The doctor sayed "The good news is that 6/10 people don't develop those symptoms."
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2018-11-27 at 5:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano I can't prove they exist, but I'm pretty damn sure they exist.
Even if I don't KNOW they exist, that doesn't mean that I'm going to act as if there are no consequences for my actions. I may be God, and I also very well may not be, but I don't have hard evidence of that. If I am God, I don't think I necessarily have control over what happens. Maybe I do, but probably not (in the way we generally perceive the concept of control).
Yeah but, the concept of God kind of forces you to reconcile the fact that if you are God then surely you must be in control of reality. -
2018-11-27 at 5:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie I think about the world and my life a lot and in general. The Universe too and the shear scale of things. And it's beautiful and wonderful, the Universe that is. But it feels empty and lonely and kind of pointless without God.
It is, and it does. But it's also utterly freeing to not have to worry about eternal consequences and Thou Shall Nots and being a hooligan for wanting to live your life the way you want to basically.
I say this not with careless joviality, I was a 6/10 Christian from birth till about 3 months ago. 6stripcandyflip fucked me in more ways than one.
Before I freaked out, at one point I witnessed myself having every possible experience in the universe almost all at once, and basically I feel as though I am God, and this is what I (the universe) do forever whether I like it not.
I make jokes, I tell stories, some of which I take REALLY REALLY SERIOUSLY *cough* Abrahamic religions *cough*, and I think about things, look at things, rearrange energy+matter, and move around, and feel things.
That's what I do forever. Maybe.
It's pretty interesting though, so I might as well make the most of it. Although, it seems kind of limited compared to concepts of my imagination that I cannot describe in words. Beyond thinking and feeling. -
2018-11-27 at 5:11 AM UTC
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2018-11-27 at 5:38 AM UTCWhat the fuck is incidental controlThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
