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  1. #81
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny you confuse spirited for angst.

    And you confuse garbage with meaningful discussion.
  2. #82
    Originally posted by -SpectraL And you confuse garbage with meaningful discussion.

    define garbage.
  3. #83
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny define garbage.

    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny you arent man enough for mandatory/
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  4. #84
    Ghost Black Hole
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny define garbage.

    Anything that comes out of a womans uterus
  5. #85
    Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny you arent man enough for mandatory/

    Yes
  6. #86
    Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny define garbage.

    Yes
  7. #87
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    A one-word reply could very well constitute meaningful discussion, in the right circumstance.
  8. #88
    Originally posted by -SpectraL

    oh, so this is garbage. i see.
  9. #89
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by mmQ It was actually me. (i was birthed with a mini trombone)

    Mini penis too.

    post pics of mini penis
  10. #90
    Archer513 African Astronaut
    I’ll pregnant all of you ladies!
  11. #91
    playingindirt Tuskegee Airman [nevermore overpopulate your whitweek]
    I'm not for abortion except under special circumstances. there is no reason for it when they have birth control.
  12. #92
    Archer513 African Astronaut
    Ann...you still dropping those eggs?
  13. #93
    playingindirt Tuskegee Airman [nevermore overpopulate your whitweek]
    Originally posted by Archer513 Ann…you still dropping those eggs?

    I've never been for abortion. I went through menopause before I ever hit 50.
    a couple hot flashes and it was over. the women in my family don't have many symptoms. it was a snap and a swirl. lolz had a tumor the size of a grapefruit and now I have no uterus.
  14. #94
    playingindirt Tuskegee Airman [nevermore overpopulate your whitweek]
    Originally posted by playingindirt of course not but I've never been for abortion. I went through menopause before I ever hit 50.
    a couple hot flashes and it was over. the women in my family don't have many symptoms. it was a snap and a swirl. lolz had a tumor the size of a grapefruit and now I have no uterus.
  15. #95
    Abortion is definitely a moral negative in almost any ethical system that starts from the (practically inarguable) basis of individual rights and liberties.

    It's just also a fact that from that perspective, we have to weigh up (for example) the moral claim of an inarguably morally considerable individual over their own body, which almost always takes precedence over the right to life of an arguably considerable fetus.

    You also need to look at it pragmatically, to account for the realities of people acting within your society, morals or not: abortions are always going to happen, you cannot ever enforceably regulate them because ultimately people are always going to put the legal consideration second to their personal moral and pragmatic considerations, and they can do it at home with a coathanger. This is why you have to view it as a public health issue, if you want to cut down on abortions and stop the moral I'll, it needs to be through family planning and sex education so unwanted pregnancies don't happen, and if they do, then the parent should be amply informed about alternatives to abortion, including adoption, or if they opt to go with abortion, then they should have a safe, regulated avenue for it.
  16. #96
    Originally posted by Anal Turing Abortion is definitely a moral negative in almost any ethical system that starts from the (practically inarguable) basis of individual rights and liberties.

    It's just also a fact that from that perspective, we have to weigh up (for example) the moral claim of an inarguably morally considerable individual over their own body, which almost always takes precedence over the right to life of an arguably considerable fetus.

    You also need to look at it pragmatically, to account for the realities of people acting within your society, morals or not: abortions are always going to happen, you cannot ever enforceably regulate them because ultimately people are always going to put the legal consideration second to their personal moral and pragmatic considerations, and they can do it at home with a coathanger. This is why you have to view it as a public health issue, if you want to cut down on abortions and stop the moral I'll, it needs to be through family planning and sex education so unwanted pregnancies don't happen, and if they do, then the parent should be amply informed about alternatives to abortion, including adoption, or if they opt to go with abortion, then they should have a safe, regulated avenue for it.

    whats your earliest memory that you can think of ?

    you dont exist before that.
  17. #97
    Archer513 African Astronaut
    I’m pro abortion of nis offspring 👍🏻👍🏻
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  18. #98
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by Archer513 I’m pro abortion of nis offspring 👍🏻👍🏻

    Hardly anyone here is NiS offspring.
  19. #99
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny whats your earliest memory that you can think of ?

    you dont exist before that.

    You are invoking the memory theory of identity (a'la John Locke), and that shit was destroyed in the 1700s.
  20. Simple example: your statement posits that "you" did in fact exist as far back as your memory goes.

    If the version of you that corresponds to your earliest memory is a valid version of "you", then it logically follows that their earliest memory of themselves is also a valid version of "them", and by extension (because you are literally making an identity claim), a valid version of you.

    We can just daisy chain the same definition together until there is no break in continuity, down to whatever causal chain can be said to inform your memory and biological pre-memory processes that ended up informing your memory, all the way back to the big bang. So you haven't solved shit with this approach.

    Then if you want to hang on to memory theory, you need to draw a semantic line somewhere to separate memory from simple syntactical causation (like a chain of dominoes), and good luck with that.
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