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We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat

  1. RisiR † 29 Autism
    That isn't true at all. You're just afraid of consequences. Stop being a faggot.
  2. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by RisiR † That isn't true at all. You're just afraid of consequences. Stop being a faggot.

    You're going to die.
  3. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
  4. Originally posted by Speedy Parker

    why let the heads go to waste ?
  5. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Obbe "The world is flat" is a statement that can be true or false… the world either is or is not flat.

    "Meat eating is immoral" cannot be true or false.

    You've said that a number of times now without really seeming to respond to what I've been saying. All I can say is if you're thinking of morality as a thing without a truth value then you're not thinking of the same thing as I am when I talk about moral propositions. I've offered you my a definition of moral statements and you've rejected it seemingly without reason.
  6. Sevn Yung Blood [confab my linked clunch]
    To the OP your a pussy. The only meat I’ll stop eating is your mothers roast beef. It’s like jerky from a truck stop but smells worse. If you wanna cry over a plate of carrots keep it to yourself.
  7. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Sevn To the OP your a pussy. The only meat I’ll stop eating is your mothers roast beef. It’s like jerky from a truck stop but smells worse. If you wanna cry over a plate of carrots keep it to yourself.

    You sounds really upset that other people don't enjoy sucking dickeating meat as you do.
  8. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Lanny
    You've said that a number of times now without really seeming to respond to what I've been saying. All I can say is if you're thinking of morality as a thing without a truth value then you're not thinking of the same thing as I am when I talk about moral propositions. I've offered you my a definition of moral statements and you've rejected it seemingly without reason.

    Not without reason - moral statements don't have a truth value because they are statements about how someone imagines the world should be, not about how it is or is not.
  9. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny why let the heads go to waste ?

  10. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by Obbe "The world is flat" is a statement that can be true or false… the world either is or is not flat.

    "Meat eating is immoral" cannot be true or false. Individuals may have different opinions about what is or is not immoral but at no point do those opinions become true or false, there is no way the world should be, there is only the way the world is.



    Originally posted by Lanny You've said that a number of times now without really seeming to respond to what I've been saying. All I can say is if you're thinking of morality as a thing without a truth value then you're not thinking of the same thing as I am when I talk about moral propositions. I've offered you my a definition of moral statements and you've rejected it seemingly without reason.

    Definition of Immoral
    : not moral
    broadly : conflicting with generally or traditionally held moral principles.

    Even by your twisted definition of moral eating meat is not immoral. Generally speaking it is not held to be immoral to eat meat. Traditionally the human race has used meat as an important part of its diet since before recorded history.
  11. Originally posted by Speedy Parker Definition of Immoral
    : not moral
    broadly : conflicting with generally or traditionally held moral principles.

    Even by your twisted definition of moral eating meat is not immoral. Generally speaking it is not held to be immoral to eat meat. Traditionally the human race has used meat as an important part of its diet since before recorded history.

    not buddhists for the past 2500 years.

    morality is just another sub set of herd mentality.
  12. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Obbe Not without reason - moral statements don't have a truth value because they are statements about how someone imagines the world should be, not about how it is or is not.

    I've told you several times now that what I mean by moral facts is not facts about how someone imagines the world should be. So yes, without reason as you're repeatedly saying there is no truth value to something you're defining in such a way as to have no truth value and refusing to address my actual position.

    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Definition of Immoral
    : not moral
    broadly : conflicting with generally or traditionally held moral principles.

    Even by your twisted definition of moral eating meat is not immoral. Generally speaking it is not held to be immoral to eat meat. Traditionally the human race has used meat as an important part of its diet since before recorded history.

    That's not my definition of immoral lol, you would know that if you read pretty much any of my posts in this thread.
  13. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Lanny
    I've told you several times now that what I mean by moral facts is not facts about how someone imagines the world should be. So yes, without reason as you're repeatedly saying there is no truth value to something you're defining in such a way as to have no truth value and refusing to address my actual position.



    That's not my definition of immoral lol, you would know that if you read pretty much any of my posts in this thread.

    By moral facts you mean ought statements. Like I said earlier:

    Originally posted by Obbe Nobody is morally obligated to do anything. If "moral truths" are just "ought statements", and if "ought statements" have no "truth value" because they are just statements about how someone thinks the world should be rather than statements about how the world is or is not, then "ought statements" and "moral truths" are just peoples opinions and preferences and nobody has any obligation to adopt someone else's opinions or preferences.
  14. RisiR † 29 Autism
    If nothing matters, Obbe, why don't you life your life like Bill Krozby? Why don't you fuck your mother? Why don't you shit on the street? Why don't you stop being a faggot? What's the point?

    Do you think that the lives of the people you plagiarize where pointless?
  15. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Obbe By moral facts you mean ought statements. Like I said earlier:

    No, actually, ought statements do have truth values, they are not merely people's opinions.
  16. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Lanny
    No, actually, ought statements do have truth values, they are not merely people's opinions.

    No because truth is a matter of what is and what isn't, not what someone things it should be.
  17. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Obbe No because truth is a matter of what is and what isn't, not what someone things it should be.

    Incorrect, ought statements are not merely what someone things should be. LMRAO!
  18. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by RisiR † If nothing matters, Obbe, why don't you life your life like Bill Krozby? Why don't you fuck your mother? Why don't you shit on the street? Why don't you stop being a faggot? What's the point?

    Do you think that the lives of the people you plagiarize where pointless?

    I live my life the only way I can. Free will doesn't exist. None of this matters.
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  19. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Lanny
    Incorrect, ought statements are not merely what someone things should be. LMRAO!

    It has to be what someone thinks the world should be... the world doesn't think it should be one way or another. People think it should be. The world just is what it is.
  20. RisiR † 29 Autism
    Originally posted by Obbe I live my life the only way I can. Free will doesn't exist. None of this matters.

    You are such a pathetic loser. Your life must be incredibly dull and boring. I hope you drown in shit. Faggot.
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