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2018-08-02 at 9:32 PM UTC
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2018-08-02 at 9:50 PM UTC
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2018-08-02 at 10:09 PM UTCGiving the family the autonomy to decide whether an offendour lives or dies by a 3rd party's hand is reprehensible to me.
If they want him killed, they should have to do it themselves. Don't pawn that responsibility off to someone else. If this were the case, they would be forced to consider the value of the life of their fellow man who has wronged them. It's not so easy when there's blood on your hands.
This is similar to those abortion laws in Texas where the mother has to view and listen to their ultrasound before they can abort. I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard on the radio that 8 or 9 out of 10 women decide not to abort after their ultrasound. It's a good law. -
2018-08-02 at 10:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano Giving the family the autonomy to decide whether an offendour lives or dies by a 3rd party's hand is reprehensible to me.
If they want him killed, they should have to do it themselves. Don't pawn that responsibility off to someone else. If this were the case, they would be forced to consider the value of the life of their fellow man who has wronged them. It's not so easy when there's blood on your hands.
This is similar to those abortion laws in Texas where the mother has to view and listen to their ultrasound before they can abort. I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard on the radio that 8 or 9 out of 10 women decide not to abort after their ultrasound. It's a good law.
modern day execution is very much like starting your engine.
just push the big red button. that is all.
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2018-08-02 at 10:19 PM UTCI would recommend the death penalty for just about anyone.
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2018-08-02 at 10:29 PM UTC
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2018-08-02 at 10:36 PM UTC
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2018-08-02 at 10:45 PM UTCThe last time I was at the death house the only twitching I saw was the lights jerkily dimming and trying to come back to full strength.
And that poor little sparrow hanging upside down, its little feet locked tight around the top elecyrified part of the fence above the 16? foot high stone walls. -
2018-08-02 at 10:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by cupocheer The last time I was at the death house the only twitching I saw was the lights jerkily dimming and trying to come back to full strength.
And that poor little sparrow hanging upside down, its little feet locked tight around the top elecyrified part of the fence above the 16? foot high stone walls.
Was that in the 1800’s? -
2018-08-02 at 11:05 PM UTC
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2018-08-02 at 11:23 PM UTChttps://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/death_row/dr_executed_offenders.html
Name Battaglia, John David
Summary of Incident:
On May 12, 2001, Battaglia shot and killed his two daughters, ages 6 and 9. The mother of the children was on the phone with the 9 year old daughter at the time of the offense and heard the gunshots.
Last Statement:
No, Well, Hi Mary Jean. See y’all later. Go ahead please. -
2018-08-02 at 11:27 PM UTCOffender: Anthony Allen Shore
Summary of Incidents:
On 09/26/1986, in Harris County, Texas, Shore kidnapped a fifteen year old white female and strangled her to death with a cord. Shore then dumped the victim's body behind a Ninfa's Restaurant.
On 04/16/1992 in Harris County, Texas, Shore kidnapped a twenty-one year old Hispanic female, sexually assaulted her and strangled her to death with a cord. Shore then dumped the victim's body behind a Dairy Queen Restaurant.
On 10/19/1993, Shore entered the home of a fourteen year old female, bound and sexually assaulted her, and strangled her to death. Shore then fled the scene on foot.
On 08/07/1994, Shore kidnapped and sexually assaulted a nine year old female causing her death. Shore then dumped the victim's body behind an abandoned commercial building.
On 07/06/1995, Shore kidnapped a sixteen year old Hispanic female and sexually assaulted her causing her death. Shore then dumped the victim's body in a field.
Last Statement:
I’d like to take a moment to say I’m sorry. No amount of words could ever undo what I’ve done. To the family of my victims, I wish I could undo that past. It is what it is. God bless all of you, I will die with a clear conscience. I made my peace. There is no others. I would like to wish a Happy Birthday to Barbara Carrol, today is her birthday. I would like to especially thank those that have helped me, you know who you are. God bless everybody until we meet again. I’m ready warden.
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2018-08-02 at 11:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ensign §m£ÂgØL Also first person accounts are important. Not always reliable, but if somebody shoots a gas station cashier in broad daylight, with multiple witnesses, I would think their ability to identify him would be pretty spot on.
you havent been watching mission impossible ...
have you ???
your face can be scanned and a high accuracy 3d mask can be printed and be worn by anyone who wanted to immitate you.
your voice can be synthesized by AIs to say anything that anyone wants.
its no longer possible to determine everything you see and hear, on tv or in person is real or otherwise anymore. -
2018-08-03 at 9:30 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader why should the majority of the people who lead a normal and upstanding and law abiding lives have to pay for the out laws and degenerates and literal human wastes to live ???
what are the consequences if they dont ???
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because they are the ones that want them out of society. the natural world is what it is, its a dangerous place. if you want to clear it and make it into a safe little haven for pussies then its gonna cost money. you can't expect your house to just clean itself with no effort or cost on your part, it doesn't work like that.
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2018-08-03 at 9:33 AM UTCAgainst, but only barely.
If death sentence trials weren't so financially burdensome for the state, I'd probably be okay with it. Maybe. -
2018-08-03 at 9:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Offender: Anthony Allen Shore
Summary of Incidents:
On 09/26/1986, in Harris County, Texas, Shore kidnapped a fifteen year old white female and strangled her to death with a cord. Shore then dumped the victim's body behind a Ninfa's Restaurant.
On 04/16/1992 in Harris County, Texas, Shore kidnapped a twenty-one year old Hispanic female, sexually assaulted her and strangled her to death with a cord. Shore then dumped the victim's body behind a Dairy Queen Restaurant.
On 10/19/1993, Shore entered the home of a fourteen year old female, bound and sexually assaulted her, and strangled her to death. Shore then fled the scene on foot.
On 08/07/1994, Shore kidnapped and sexually assaulted a nine year old female causing her death. Shore then dumped the victim's body behind an abandoned commercial building.
On 07/06/1995, Shore kidnapped a sixteen year old Hispanic female and sexually assaulted her causing her death. Shore then dumped the victim's body in a field.
Last Statement:
I’d like to take a moment to say I’m sorry. No amount of words could ever undo what I’ve done. To the family of my victims, I wish I could undo that past. It is what it is. God bless all of you, I will die with a clear conscience. I made my peace. There is no others. I would like to wish a Happy Birthday to Barbara Carrol, today is her birthday. I would like to especially thank those that have helped me, you know who you are. God bless everybody until we meet again. I’m ready warden.
This is the sort of case that I feel should result in torture to death over several weeks/years. -
2018-08-03 at 9:41 AM UTCAgainst.
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2018-08-03 at 10:28 AM UTC
im with the crapstain, i think.
in theory yes but i wasn't there to see what happened, and I also wouldn't wanna be the one to pull the lever -
2018-08-03 at 12:36 PM UTCDeath penalty is based on nothing but assumptions.
People assume that justice have been served because the majority of people view death as the ultimate punishment.
However, people have no clue what death actually is. Setting people free from this world and its torments isn't punishment, its mercy. And odds are you're probably doing the criminal a favor.
Is eye for an eye an outdated concept? Should we keep on giving the justice system the duty of reliving the burden of loss we're experiencing because of criminals, or should we seek the justice ourselves. And if that's the case, then what is considered enough to have closure? Is the point of justice closure? because if it is, then how come its not always working as expected?
Is your idea of justice eye for an eye? Murder for a murder? rape for a rape?
Is justice even viable anymore and who are even qualified to determine which degree of criminal activity results in x amount of years in prison? Certainly not a jury of randomly picked people. A judge? What makes the judge qualified to judge other people, the title? That's just ridiculous.
Imo the justice system, prison system and their rehab programs along with most of the other shit is outdated. You only need to look back a few decades and then look at now, then ask yourself:
If its working then why do we still have criminals? why are we still medieval in our behaviour against certain criminals?
Why can't we seem to look beyond our personal demand for justice?
We've been judging people, we've been killing people, we've been sick and twisted towards people. We've done this forever and we don't seem to have any evidence as to the overall effectiveness of it. On the contrary, we have more people than ever, with more criminals than ever doing more and more fucked up shit, and it will keep on going this way because treating symptoms does not cure people.
Doing the same things over and over again expecting different results each time is a sign of insanity.
The cure is not justice, or to imprison. The cure is to deal with things before they happen.
The problem is, there's simply not focus on this and so it will remain in place like it is till they figure out a better working and more importantly a better earning model. -
2018-08-03 at 12:40 PM UTC
