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  1. #21
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    the death penalty should only be used for offenders who use power and influence to start a war just so they can make more money through supplying the military. that is pretty much one of the few crimes truly deserving of it.



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  2. #22
    Originally posted by benny vader meh.

    this is 2018, camera footages can be hollywooded, your iphone already has your facial scan data that can be used to produce a realistic 4k 3d animation of you doing things.

    This. Deepfakes can make convincing fake videos with a few pictures through a phone app. It's not perfect but takes such little effort to get to a pretty convincing video. If you want to doctor video evidence, all it would take is a more subtle hand and a bit of effort.
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  3. #23
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by benny vader meh.

    this is 2018, camera footages can be hollywooded, your iphone already has your facial scan data that can be used to produce a realistic 4k 3d animation of you doing things.

    https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/806/jennifer-aniston-shemale-mastubation-with-fleshlight
  4. #24
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Captain This. Deepfakes can make convincing fake videos with a few pictures through a phone app. It's not perfect but takes such little effort to get to a pretty convincing video. If you want to doctor video evidence, all it would take is a more subtle hand and a bit of effort.

    lol, not sure how I didn't see this post
  5. #25
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Captain This. Deepfakes can make convincing fake videos with a few pictures through a phone app. It's not perfect but takes such little effort to get to a pretty convincing video. If you want to doctor video evidence, all it would take is a more subtle hand and a bit of effort.

    wait till you see state sponsored deepfakes.
  6. #26
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by aldra https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/806/jennifer-aniston-shemale-mastubation-with-fleshlight

    im more of a lisa kudrow guy.
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  7. #27
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    first off, if you have faith in the capabilities and integrity of the courts and justice system then you are seriously naive and stupid. history will prove me very very correct on that one.

    it always gets me when advocates of the death penalty will use the ordeal of the family to justify the use of the death penalty. i don't even understand when the family themselves claim that only the execution of the offender can put right the hurt and sense of loss they have gone through with the unnecessary killing of their loved one. they more than anybody should understand that executing the offender will put his family through the exact same ordeal as they are experiencing. how on earth could they possibly justify doing that?

    especially if the offender has young children. imagine what it would be like as a young child having to witness the unnecessary killing of your parent. that would define your whole childhood as this is not something that is done and dusted within a few weeks or months, it takes many years. by the time the parent is actually executed they will likely be in their mid to late teens. for the rest of that persons life any time they remember their childhood the memory is going to be overshadowed by the execution of the parent. no matter what the offender had done it is still their parent and you cannot expect them to feel for their parent any differently than anybody else does about their own. preventing just this happening alone is enough reason to abolish the death penalty.

    its like by executing the offender you are punishing them with death, but at the same time you are punishing their family with something even worse. any victims family that honestly feels that only putting the offenders family through the exact same heartache they've suffered themselves is the only way they can feel amended has no right to be consulted on the matter. its pretty clear that the ordeal has left them bitter and not thinking clearly. victims are generally the worst people to decide the punishment of the offender in most cases. they nearly always go overboard because as well as their outrage they'll also have a sense of revenge driving their decision.

    but then at the end of the day, if you can go and tell an offenders 6 year old daughter that you are going to have her daddy executed and explain to her what that means and why you want to do it, and come away from that still thinking the death penalty is the only or best option, then i'll shut up and keep my opinion to myself on the matter.



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  8. #28
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by NARCassist first off, if you have faith in the capabilities and integrity of the courts and justice system then you are seriously naive and stupid. history will prove me very very correct on that one.

    it always gets me when advocates of the death penalty will use the ordeal of the family to justify the use of the death penalty. i don't even understand when the family themselves claim that only the execution of the offender can put right the hurt and sense of loss they have gone through with the unnecessary killing of their loved one. they more than anybody should understand that executing the offender will put his family through the exact same ordeal as they are experiencing. how on earth could they possibly justify doing that?

    especially if the offender has young children. imagine what it would be like as a young child having to witness the unnecessary killing of your parent. that would define your whole childhood as this is not something that is done and dusted within a few weeks or months, it takes many years. by the time the parent is actually executed they will likely be in their mid to late teens. for the rest of that persons life any time they remember their childhood the memory is going to be overshadowed by the execution of the parent. no matter what the offender had done it is still their parent and you cannot expect them to feel for their parent any differently than anybody else does about their own. preventing just this happening alone is enough reason to abolish the death penalty.

    its like by executing the offender you are punishing them with death, but at the same time you are punishing their family with something even worse. any victims family that honestly feels that only putting the offenders family through the exact same heartache they've suffered themselves is the only way they can feel amended has no right to be consulted on the matter. its pretty clear that the ordeal has left them bitter and not thinking clearly. victims are generally the worst people to decide the punishment of the offender in most cases. they nearly always go overboard because as well as their outrage they'll also have a sense of revenge driving their decision.

    but then at the end of the day, if you can go and tell an offenders 6 year old daughter that you are going to have her daddy executed and explain to her what that means and why you want to do it, and come away from that still thinking the death penalty is the only or best option, then i'll shut up and keep my opinion to myself on the matter.

    how much does it cost to keep a prisoner alive for a year in your country ???



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  9. #29
    Originally posted by NARCassist first off, if you have faith in the capabilities and integrity of the courts and justice system then you are seriously naive and stupid. history will prove me very very correct on that one.

    it always gets me when advocates of the death penalty will use the ordeal of the family to justify the use of the death penalty. i don't even understand when the family themselves claim that only the execution of the offender can put right the hurt and sense of loss they have gone through with the unnecessary killing of their loved one. they more than anybody should understand that executing the offender will put his family through the exact same ordeal as they are experiencing. how on earth could they possibly justify doing that?

    especially if the offender has young children. imagine what it would be like as a young child having to witness the unnecessary killing of your parent. that would define your whole childhood as this is not something that is done and dusted within a few weeks or months, it takes many years. by the time the parent is actually executed they will likely be in their mid to late teens. for the rest of that persons life any time they remember their childhood the memory is going to be overshadowed by the execution of the parent. no matter what the offender had done it is still their parent and you cannot expect them to feel for their parent any differently than anybody else does about their own. preventing just this happening alone is enough reason to abolish the death penalty.

    its like by executing the offender you are punishing them with death, but at the same time you are punishing their family with something even worse. any victims family that honestly feels that only putting the offenders family through the exact same heartache they've suffered themselves is the only way they can feel amended has no right to be consulted on the matter. its pretty clear that the ordeal has left them bitter and not thinking clearly. victims are generally the worst people to decide the punishment of the offender in most cases. they nearly always go overboard because as well as their outrage they'll also have a sense of revenge driving their decision.

    but then at the end of the day, if you can go and tell an offenders 6 year old daughter that you are going to have her daddy executed and explain to her what that means and why you want to do it, and come away from that still thinking the death penalty is the only or best option, then i'll shut up and keep my opinion to myself on the matter.



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    Read it and it was a pretty decent post.
  10. #30
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    Originally posted by benny vader how much does it cost to keep a prisoner alive for a year in your country ???



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    if the tax payer wants their nice safe little nirvana to live in then they gotta accept its gonna cost them money.



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  11. #31
    Originally posted by NARCassist if the tax payer wants their nice safe little nirvana to live in then they gotta accept its gonna cost them money.

    They can just blow their brains out with a shotgun at like 3 cents a pop
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  12. #32
    Ensign Galm African Astronaut [specifically erupt this tetrachloromethane]
    Originally posted by benny vader meh.

    this is 2018, camera footages can be hollywooded, your iphone already has your facial scan data that can be used to produce a realistic 4k 3d animation of you doing things.

    This is very true, but it's not like we can't verify footage. This is, for now, some high level deception. I don't think it's a practical worry at the moment. It takes some pretty good CGI work to make something believable.

    However, a lot of security cameras are SHIT. There should definitely be some kind of standard. It's much easier to falsify shit footage.

    Also first person accounts are important. Not always reliable, but if somebody shoots a gas station cashier in broad daylight, with multiple witnesses, I would think their ability to identify him would be pretty spot on.
  13. #33
    Cootehill African Astronaut [my unsymmetrically blurry oregano]
    Originally posted by NARCassist if the tax payer wants their nice safe little nirvana to live in then they gotta accept its gonna cost them money.

    Sadly so...
  14. #34
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    bullets are cheaper than I thought
  15. #35
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    but if you are only killing people to save money then that's really no different to what many killers do when they kill somebody for financial gain. once the justice system goes down that route they are then no better than the people they are sentencing. they lose the moral high ground pretty much altogether.



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  16. #36
    Originally posted by aldra bullets are cheaper than I thought

    They're even cheaper if you reload.
  17. #37
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    reliable primers are the only thing that puts them out of my reach
  18. #38
    Cootehill African Astronaut [my unsymmetrically blurry oregano]
    Originally posted by NARCassist but if you are only killing people to save money then that's really no different to what many killers do when they kill somebody for financial gain.

    How is that a bad thing? Most people deserve to die. Almost everyone who gets killed by professional killers deserves it many times over.

    Obviously minor crimes will be punished with a good whipping.
  19. #39
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    Originally posted by Cootehill How is that a bad thing? Most people deserve to die. Almost everyone who gets killed by professional killers deserves it many times over.

    Obviously minor crimes will be punished with a good whipping.

    Yeah but that's just like your opinion man



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  20. #40
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by NARCassist if the tax payer wants their nice safe little nirvana to live in then they gotta accept its gonna cost them money.


    why should the majority of the people who lead a normal and upstanding and law abiding lives have to pay for the out laws and degenerates and literal human wastes to live ???

    what are the consequences if they dont ???

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