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Should I feel bad about this? Motorcycle related.
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2018-07-21 at 2:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by stare rape I almost get killed by inattentive drivers an average of once a week (3 times so far this week) and our patience wears thin after a while
However in this case I've already admitted that I was being needlessly obnoxious.
Pretty sure it’s cyclical. Motorcyclists act obnoxious and annoy other motorists. Motorists get annoyed and stop being as patient with motorcyclists.
My biggest pet peeve is people who drive slow in the left lane. People are not good drivers, period.
As far as a 16 year old girl paying more attention to her phone than the road, she’s endangering everyone. -
2018-07-21 at 2:07 PM UTCI am so pleased to see that some members have an opinion. lol
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2018-07-21 at 2:07 PM UTC
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2018-07-21 at 2:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by stare rape That's why we speed the way we do, so that we don't spend any time in blind spots. Problem is, to someone who doesn't know what we're doing, it just looks like we're being opportunistic assholes in traffic (which, honestly, it is that sometimes)
Exactly...I agree with this 100%. After racing in the TTs in the IOM when I was younger booting to 150 mph plus on a super highway which is clear is much safer than riding in a slow congested section full of irritated drivers who are mostly on their cell phones or eating. So speed can be a benefit and helps you get out of trouble. The problem with most bikers however is very simple...lack of skills, no ability to handle fast bikes and taking unnecessary chances to show off ( even if you can do tricks). Also poor training and riding in groups strictly to cause problems. -
2018-07-21 at 2:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by joerell Exactly…I agree with this 100%. After racing in the TTs in the IOM when I was younger booting to 150 mph plus on a super highway which is clear is much safer than riding in a slow congested section full of irritated drivers who are mostly on their cell phones or eating. So speed can be a benefit and helps you get out of trouble. The problem with most bikers however is very simple…lack of skills, no ability to handle fast bikes and taking unnecessary chances to show off ( even if you can do tricks). Also poor training and riding in groups strictly to cause problems.
Not to mention the shaming that small displacement riders like myself get
The way a lot of motorcyclists talk, you're not a real biker until you're rocking at least a liter, so a lot of noobs go out and buy zx-10s and R1s and then get themselves killed
And people wonder why insurance rates and death rates are so high for so-called "supersports"
Funny thing is, an exceptionally skilled 300cc rider will beat a literbike in the canyons just because of the lower weight
Too many literbike riders depend on displacement to solve their problems -
2018-07-21 at 3:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by stare rape Not to mention the shaming that small displacement riders like myself get
The way a lot of motorcyclists talk, you're not a real biker until you're rocking at least a liter, so a lot of noobs go out and buy zx-10s and R1s and then get themselves killed
And people wonder why insurance rates and death rates are so high for so-called "supersports"
Very true Bro...I know what you mean. I worked myself up training first and then raced. I felt safer on the track than the road...mostly because all the bikers were experienced and not interested in dying to end their career. Still there was 1% of losers...guys who were only interested in winning taking too many risks endagering others and usually crashing. Amazingly the infamous original Ghost Rider in Europe decades ago illegally raced streets for years being a stunt man before he died and considering what he did as well as the speed any noob would of fucked up on the first day.
One of the vids.
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2018-07-21 at 4:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by stare rape And people wonder why insurance rates and death rates are so high for so-called "supersports"
the problem lies the clothings or what you calls ''biking gear'' and not with in bikes themselves.
those tactical bike clothings and paddings give a false sense of security and make their wearers feel invincible and made them ride as if the law of physics doesnt apply to them.
make those liter bikers wear plain t-shirt and khaki shorts and turtle shells for helmet and youll see their riding attitude change from beta to beta mode. -
2018-07-22 at 1:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader the problem lies the clothings or what you calls ''biking gear'' and not with in bikes themselves.
those tactical bike clothings and paddings give a false sense of security and make their wearers feel invincible and made them ride as if the law of physics doesnt apply to them.
make those liter bikers wear plain t-shirt and khaki shorts and turtle shells for helmet and youll see their riding attitude change from beta to beta mode.
Actually you're wrong...most experienced bikers wear protective clothes and if they race learn how to fall, slide and react to obstacles. Idiots in t-shirts, jeans and sandals are the ones who die first or ones doing stunts they can't handle on fast bikes. betas I'm sure think faster than Betas and probably have skills to get out of trouble. Can you imagine total morons like WellHung, Jedi and Pole on a Ninja with no helmet and not even being fit to ride on Pot, anti-depressants or booze or lacking skills. LMAO. -
2018-07-22 at 5:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by joerell Actually you're wrong…most experienced bikers wear protective clothes and if they race learn how to fall, slide and react to obstacles. Idiots in t-shirts, jeans and sandals are the ones who die first
you got that backward.
professionals who are confident with their own riding skills and trust themselves to not crash go out in tshirt and shorts.
they wont even wear a helmet if not for the law.
its always noobs and betas that go out in tactical biking gears becos they are beta and knew their incompetencies well enough to know they might crash.
just look at bike crashes on youtube. -
2018-07-22 at 6 PM UTC
Originally posted by joerell Actually you're wrong…most experienced bikers wear protective clothes and if they race learn how to fall, slide and react to obstacles. Idiots in t-shirts, jeans and sandals are the ones who die first or ones doing stunts they can't handle on fast bikes. betas I'm sure think faster than Betas and probably have skills to get out of trouble. Can you imagine total morons like WellHung, Jedi and Pole on a Ninja with no helmet and not even being fit to ride on Pot, anti-depressants or booze or lacking skills. LMAO.
theres no 'learning' how to fall. the human mind isnt capable of reacting that quickly. as many times as ive done it the only thing i do is tuck-in, cover my face as best as possible, and enjoy the ride. -
2018-07-22 at 6:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader you got that backward.
professionals who are confident with their own riding skills and trust themselves to not crash go out in tshirt and shorts.
they wont even wear a helmet if not for the law.
its always noobs and betas that go out in tactical biking gears becos they are beta and knew their incompetencies well enough to know they might crash.
just look at bike crashes on youtube.
You're an idiot...most of the riders I knew or still know were and are professionals and all wore protective gear. Only fools wear t-shirts and no helmets...especially on the road where skill is essential and yet sometimes useless with poor drivers. Noobs on the highway are not motorcyclists...simply untrained and with low intelligence. A noob has no chance surviving on the road after a serious fall ...a skilled and experienced rider with protective clothes has a much better chance. -
2018-07-22 at 6:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by joerell You're an idiot…most of the riders I knew or still know were and are professionals and all wore protective gear.
the only professionals riders you knew are prostitutes and the only thing they ride professionally are cocks.
and the only protection involved are condoms.
now come ride mine. ill wear protective gear i promise. -
2018-07-22 at 6:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock theres no 'learning' how to fall. the human mind isnt capable of reacting that quickly. as many times as ive done it the only thing i do is tuck-in, cover my face as best as possible, and enjoy the ride.
California Superbike School is just one of the options to learn how to race and what's needed. In Italy where I took courses long ago it was much more intense and involved everything from throttling to major falls. There's a big difference from falling off a Harley on the highway or falling off a super bike around a corner on a track where it usually happens due to contact from another racer or tires. Still the tricks help on the road also and yet not if you can't slide or get away from oncoming traffic. In the TTs where speeds reach 175-200 mph you're helpless if you hit a wall...if on open road or a straight away you may save your life sliding or using the back shield to help you get to safety. Harley riders will not react fast...racers will and hopefully survive if possible. Since the beginning of the TTs about 200 died...a fair bit and even from malfunctions or crowd interference although copters advice of issues looking from above. -
2018-07-22 at 6:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader the only professionals riders you knew are prostitutes and the only thing they ride professionally are cocks.
and the only protection involved are condoms.
now come ride mine. ill wear protective gear i promise.
Like I said before you're just an idiot with no knowledge of anything and a sick pedo. -
2018-07-22 at 6:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by joerell California Superbike School is just one of the options to learn how to race and what's needed. In Italy where I took courses long ago it was much more intense and involved everything from throttling to major falls. There's a big difference from falling off a Harley on the highway or falling off a super bike around a corner on a track where it usually happens due to contact from another racer or tires. Still the tricks help on the road also and yet not if you can't slide or get away from oncoming traffic. In the TTs where speeds reach 175-200 mph you're helpless if you hit a wall…if on open road or a straight away you may save your life sliding or using the back shield to help you get to safety. Harley riders will not react fast…racers will and hopefully survive if possible. Since the beginning of the TTs about 200 died…a fair bit and even from malfunctions or crowd interference although copters advice of issues looking from above.
speaking from experience...none of that is possible. ive wrecked countless times on 3- and 4-wheelers and even at slow speeds its over before the brain can react with conscious thought. unless there is a really, really fast instinctive reaction, thats all she wrote -
2018-07-22 at 6:46 PM UTC
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2018-07-22 at 6:50 PM UTCAgreed...I fell a few times and yet in my case the tips helped during each incident even with a serious crash...so I guess every person is different under various conditions and reaction times are important unless you're not very attentive. 3 or 4 wheelers however are not the same as a super bike around a corner on a track and many accidents happen due to booze and drugs off the track where you're not attentive. Everything changes even more with 2 fat people on a Harley and why they usually limit speed. LMAO.
Later...be safe.