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Tommy Robinson arrested and sentenced within an hour, judge orders media blackout in UK
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2018-05-27 at 7:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by tee hee hee It's a scary world we live in. Civilization seems to be hanging on by a thread.
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.
The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine. Furthermore, if the system survives, the consequences will be inevitable: There is no way of reforming or modifying the system so as to prevent it from depriving people of dignity and autonomy.
If the system breaks down the consequences will still be very painful. But the bigger the system grows the more disastrous the results of its breakdown will be, so if it is to break down it had best break down sooner rather than later.
We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system. This revolution may or may not make use of violence; it may be sudden or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We can’t predict any of that. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis of the present society. -
2018-05-27 at 8:08 PM UTCObbe is at it again. Source: Unabomber Manifesto.
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2018-05-27 at 8:20 PM UTCthis country's fucked beyond repair, has been for years now.
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2018-05-27 at 8:22 PM UTCat least he get to see a judge.
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2018-05-27 at 8:23 PM UTC
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2018-05-27 at 8:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra All I have to go on are the articles posted (I'll dig into it later), but he was apparently arrested for spurious reasons, denied his right to a lawyer and immediately sentenced and processed, and the whole incident was suppressed in the media presumeably to avoid backlash.
It makes you wonder how often similar things have happened to people with less of a following.
Oh fuck, I did not hear that he got denied a lawyer. That is fucked up. Is this legal in the UK? How do we know what he was charged with, is it open to the public? Perhaps there is some terrorism charge somewhere in here. That would be my guess. The US and UK love taking away rights from terrorists and anybody who might conceivably ever be considered a terrorist, including people who cross borders and buy plane tickets, but this is quite a step up. -
2018-05-27 at 8:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.
The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine. Furthermore, if the system survives, the consequences will be inevitable: There is no way of reforming or modifying the system so as to prevent it from depriving people of dignity and autonomy.
If the system breaks down the consequences will still be very painful. But the bigger the system grows the more disastrous the results of its breakdown will be, so if it is to break down it had best break down sooner rather than later.
We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system. This revolution may or may not make use of violence; it may be sudden or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We can’t predict any of that. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis of the present society.
pretty sure this is from a dystopia song -
2018-05-27 at 8:25 PM UTC
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2018-05-27 at 8:27 PM UTC
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2018-05-27 at 8:28 PM UTCPotentially RIP Tommy Robinson
He might legit get killed in prison like the guy that went to prison for putting a bacon sandwich outside a mosque
I'm sure it will be reported as a "drug overdose" -
2018-05-27 at 8:33 PM UTC
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2018-05-27 at 8:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by Daily Potentially RIP Tommy Robinson
He might legit get killed in prison like the guy that went to prison for putting a bacon sandwich outside a mosque
I'm sure it will be reported as a "drug overdose"
Meanwhile, Muslims in China are being forced into camps where they are made to eat pork and drink alcohol as punishment. -
2018-05-27 at 8:40 PM UTC
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2018-05-27 at 8:42 PM UTC
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2018-05-27 at 8:43 PM UTCBreaking News: People from 78 different countries found to be living in Chinese conversion camps under the guise of converting from Islam. Numbers estimated to be in the hundreds of thousands. More at 8.
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2018-05-27 at 8:46 PM UTC
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2018-05-27 at 8:57 PM UTC
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2018-05-27 at 10:39 PM UTC
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2018-05-27 at 10:46 PM UTC
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2018-05-28 at 2:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by BeigeWarlock Pretty sure we lost ours as well in the USA. especially when Bush was in power. first time in 200 plus years people were afraid of speaking out.
I don't see anybody afraid. People in the UK get arrested for simply teaching their dog how to sieg heil. Doesn't happen in the US.