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2018-05-08 at 1:44 PM UTCEvery time I try to not waste food something like a 48 hour blackout will happen and spoil everything in my fridge.
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2018-05-12 at 3:36 AM UTC
Originally posted by A College Professor I think quality stainless steel is suitable for most beverages , glass is fragile but is still in common usage for beer without problem ( course they aren't normally re-used here. ) . I heard they still re-use coke/beer bottles in mexico.
stainless steel takes 3times more energy to produce becos it takes an average of 3times more types of metal to make them. -
2018-05-12 at 4:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader stainless steel takes 3times more energy to produce becos it takes an average of 3times more types of metal to make them.
and is a million times more energy efficient because its perpetual...doesnt break down...and lasts forever. theres more than enough of the raw materials required to make SS in the earths crust. -
2018-05-12 at 4:23 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock and is a million times more energy efficient because its perpetual…doesnt break down…and lasts forever. theres more than enough of the raw materials required to make SS in the earths crust.
so is plastic. infact, plastic does what you mentioned even better.
the problem is not with the material, but rather us. i have a lot of nice stainless steel food and drink containers but their all just a fade.
i stopped wanting to bring them out to buy food and drinks after a week or so after the feeling of ''new'' had worn off,
and went back to cheap, disposable food and drink containers. its easier and less phaggy that way. -
2018-05-12 at 4:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader so is plastic. infact, plastic does what you mentioned even better.
the problem is not with the material, but rather us. i have a lot of nice stainless steel food and drink containers but their all just a fade.
i stopped wanting to bring them out to buy food and drinks after a week or so after the feeling of ''new'' had worn off,
and went back to cheap, disposable food and drink containers. its easier and less phaggy that way.
you need to do more research on your materials-science knowledge.
stainless steel is perpetual. it can be cleaned indefinitely with minimal scratching, the scratches in plastic that would allow microbes a growth environment. SS polishes from cleaning, becoming smoother.
when someone gets tired of SS it can be melted down and its alloy components re-applied.
'plastic' (you didnt mention what kind of plastic...there are hundreds upon hundreds of types) is shit. no matter what type of plastic it is, the material is susceptible to microbial growth on a good day...on the bad days the actual components of the plastic leech out and into whatever is in the container. even hot liquids can cause leeching.
plastic isnt recycleable. chopping it up and spreading it around playgrounds, using it to pack shipped products, or adding it to wrapping paper is not recycling. its using the consumer as the garbage heap. -
2018-05-12 at 6:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by Slaynk What's wrong with landfills? It's just gonna get buried. Doesn't the earth recycle that? Won't it just make fossil fuels again. This is a very trying subject for me
My home town is like the Statan Island of Oakland
they landfilled for years until like 1979-80?> I'm 52 now. so 40 years later and it still has a fence around it.
but like George Carlin said.. maybe Earth made humans because it needed plastic. -
2018-05-12 at 6:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock you need to do more research on your materials-science knowledge.
stainless steel is perpetual. it can be cleaned indefinitely with minimal scratching, the scratches in plastic that would allow microbes a growth environment. SS polishes from cleaning, becoming smoother.
when someone gets tired of SS it can be melted down and its alloy components re-applied.
'plastic' (you didnt mention what kind of plastic…there are hundreds upon hundreds of types) is shit. no matter what type of plastic it is, the material is susceptible to microbial growth on a good day…on the bad days the actual components of the plastic leech out and into whatever is in the container. even hot liquids can cause leeching.
plastic isnt recycleable. chopping it up and spreading it around playgrounds, using it to pack shipped products, or adding it to wrapping paper is not recycling. its using the consumer as the garbage heap.
you didnt mention what kind of stainless steel too. their dozen upon dozen different varieties of stainless steel.
sorting them for the real purposes of recycling would be nigh impossible. youll need experts who could tell SUS304 from SUS303 and etc from etc.
and once youve done that youll need to send them to one of a dozen different stainless steel recycling factory since the melting point / chemical properties between them arent all the same.
i know you have a thing for stainless steel but frankly speaking, they arent that great.
they arent your magical fairy metal. -
2018-05-13 at 4:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader you didnt mention what kind of stainless steel too. their dozen upon dozen different varieties of stainless steel.
sorting them for the real purposes of recycling would be nigh impossible. youll need experts who could tell SUS304 from SUS303 and etc from etc.
and once youve done that youll need to send them to one of a dozen different stainless steel recycling factory since the melting point / chemical properties between them arent all the same.
i know you have a thing for stainless steel but frankly speaking, they arent that great.
they arent your magical fairy metal.
i implied the decent grade...304 or so...that is actually SS. not the madeinchina shit that is steel with a shiny coating.
what the shit are you stammering about. sorting different grades of metal is no problem...junk yards do it all the time with some machine. melted down scrap SS is all thrown into one big electrified crucible and used as the main ingredient in new alloys.
i compared SS to glass. -
2018-05-13 at 4:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock i implied the decent grade…304 or so…that is actually SS. not the madeinchina shit that is steel with a shiny coating.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel#Stainless_steel_familieswhat the shit are you stammering about. sorting different grades of metal is no problem…junk yards do it all the time with some machine. melted down scrap SS is all thrown into one big electrified crucible and used as the main ingredient in new alloys.
mongrelized stainless steel with unknown composition is always less useful than their non mongrelized parents. -
2018-05-13 at 5:19 AM UTC
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2018-05-13 at 8:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel#Stainless_steel_families
mongrelized stainless steel with unknown composition is always less useful than their non mongrelized parents.
stop making a mountain out of an ant hill. none of that is relevant when melting s.steel down because no matter what alloy it is, once its temperature gets to the point of liquification the alloy is no longer consistent because...reasons...and has to be modified with additional metals (chromium, mainly) because...reasons...to bring it back into the proper alloy classification.
regardless of the alloy, it has to be 'cleaned' while in liquid form, which in itself makes the different grades of s.steel getting mixed together irrelevant. -
2018-05-13 at 8:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by BeigeWarlock https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html
303 See Other
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too bad, bitch. clench your ass cheeks and hope i finish quickly. -
2018-05-13 at 11:27 PM UTC
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2018-05-14 at 3:02 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock stop making a mountain out of an ant hill. none of that is relevant when melting s.steel down because no matter what alloy it is, once its temperature gets to the point of liquification the alloy is no longer consistent because…reasons…and has to be modified with additional metals (chromium, mainly) because…reasons…to bring it back into the proper alloy classification.
regardless of the alloy, it has to be 'cleaned' while in liquid form, which in itself makes the different grades of s.steel getting mixed together irrelevant.
can you tell me what grade of recycled stainless steel is, and what industrial application their intended for ??? -
2018-05-14 at 3:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader can you tell me what grade of recycled stainless steel is, and what industrial application their intended for ???
no. thats why i said 'grades' instead of listing all the different alloy types. the two kinds i use are 304 for cast plumbing fittings between 1/8" and 1" as well as the uber high grade, $1,000 for about 10' (or 8'...i cant remember) of 2" diameter/thick-wall tubing intended for permanent submerged use. you dont melt that shit down...its too expensive for one thing, for another its indestructible.
go play with google...youll learn everything you want to know -
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