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We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-05-05 at 11:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick I'm not worried about people trolling it anymore, only when the thread was active was it an issue. Now I'm just grateful for the occasional serious discussion. As much ground as we've covered thus far, we've hardly exhausted the subject.
You got finny banned. Undo the damage. -
2018-05-05 at 11:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by You got finny banned. Undo the damage.
No? Even if I did ask Lanny to unban him, which I wouldn't, he wouldn't do it because it was justified. Finny got himself banned because he's a moron and a shitposter, and he was given every opportunity to stop. I'm not going to debate this with you, not in this thread and not in this forum, over all of which I have zero authority. If you're angry still, make a thread in SG. -
2018-05-05 at 11:58 PM UTCHe's unbanned
Hasn't came back yet though. I miss him, he'd have a field day with the new posters -
2018-05-06 at 12 AM UTC
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2018-05-06 at 12:03 AM UTCOverall this was a very successful thread: 1,200+ posts and a lot of it early on was good discussion, despite Finny's constant attempts to derail us. I'm not going to participate in your bullshit, -SpectraL. I'm not going to report you, but I'm not going to indulge you anymore. You can whine about it in SG. Goodbye.
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2018-05-06 at 12:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick Overall this was a very successful thread: 1,200+ posts and a lot of it early on was good discussion, despite Finny's constant attempts to derail us. I'm not going to participate in your bullshit, -SpectraL. I'm not going to report you, but I'm not going to indulge you anymore. You can whine about it in SG. Goodbye.
Until we meet again then. -
2018-05-06 at 12:10 AM UTC
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2018-05-06 at 12:15 AM UTCI'd like everybody banned except the vegans.
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2018-05-06 at 8:46 AM UTCi honestly wouldn't go full vegan but the older(41 if one reading this is curious) i get the more i am considering not eating as much meat(like still eat meat 4-5 days of the week and the rest not eating it. will i do it? right now i'd say its a 60% of doing it in the next few years.)
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2018-05-06 at 9:35 AM UTCmeats good thats why human have pointy teeth
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2018-05-06 at 4:21 PM UTC
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2018-05-06 at 4:22 PM UTC
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2018-05-06 at 4:31 PM UTCSaw this posted on a similar topic on Reddit, thought I should share it here:
Just because plants have lower awareness than animals doesn't mean plants have no consciousness at all and do not suffer when killed for food.
Since all life is sacred (plant and animal), spiritually it doesn't matter what life forms we consume in order to survive and thrive in the physical universe. Spiritually what matters is the manner in which we take those lives.
I think the Native American Indians are a good spiritual example to follow for this. Before they ate anything, they gave thanks to the spirit of that animal:
"Thank-you for giving your life so that I may live."
Doing so makes eating any life form (plant or animal) a karma-less act. So veganism doesn't promote spiritual awakening any more than eating meat does. It's the attitude that counts. -
2018-05-06 at 4:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Saw this posted on a similar topic on Reddit, thought I should share it here:
Just because plants have lower awareness than animals doesn't mean plants have no consciousness at all and do not suffer when killed for food.
I've never seen any good evidence for 'consciousness' in plants
sure they'll grow toward sunlight or away from harm but that only indicates very low order logic, direct response to stimuli -
2018-05-06 at 4:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I've never seen any good evidence for 'consciousness' in plants
sure they'll grow toward sunlight or away from harm but that only indicates very low order logic, direct response to stimuli
I made a thread about plant intelligence/consciousness full of links to actual research on the topic, plus a documentary if you're interested in it. -
2018-05-06 at 7:55 PM UTC
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2018-05-06 at 7:58 PM UTCI agree with the one thing but I disagree with that other thing.
I am debating on the toilet.
Why did I eat spicy checken wings? -
2018-05-06 at 8:07 PM UTC
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2018-05-07 at 1:49 AM UTC
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2018-05-07 at 1:57 AM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Saw this posted on a similar topic on Reddit, thought I should share it here:
Just because plants have lower awareness than animals doesn't mean plants have no consciousness at all and do not suffer when killed for food.
Since all life is sacred (plant and animal), spiritually it doesn't matter what life forms we consume in order to survive and thrive in the physical universe. Spiritually what matters is the manner in which we take those lives.
I think the Native American Indians are a good spiritual example to follow for this. Before they ate anything, they gave thanks to the spirit of that animal:
"Thank-you for giving your life so that I may live."
Doing so makes eating any life form (plant or animal) a karma-less act. So veganism doesn't promote spiritual awakening any more than eating meat does. It's the attitude that counts.
So if I eat humans but I'm thankful for their sacrifice, I shouldn't incur karmic punishment?