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2018-03-30 at 11:02 AM UTC
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2018-03-30 at 12:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws Yeah that’s what I said a democratic republic
No such thing. You are thinking of a democratically represented republic. What you describe below is not that. It is a pure democracy.
Originally posted by Fox Paws It’s pretty simple to understand really.
1. Majority rules
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2018-03-30 at 7:11 PM UTC
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2018-03-31 at 12:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader yea ….
the constitution says your free to bear arms.
but why cant you bear this fully automatic assault rifles and conceal carry that uzi uzi ???
yess. the law.
Originally posted by Juicebox Trust me benny, American politics is nothing like politics anywhere else. It's convoluted, and requires having been here at least a couple decades to understand, and seems ridiculous to people on the outside.
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2018-03-31 at 5:31 AM UTC
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2018-03-31 at 6:08 AM UTC
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2018-03-31 at 6:12 AM UTCFucks sake Benny how do you struggle so much with basic concepts? The “right to bear arms” was created hundreds of years ago. Since then new laws have been added to stipulate what KINDS of “arms” you can bear. Laws like the NFA of 1934 and the GCA of 1968. And various state/local laws.
But yes the prospect of increasing restrictions placed on the 2nd amendment is what organizations like the NRA and other pro-gun lobbyists are fighting. How dumb are you for real -
2018-03-31 at 10:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws Fucks sake Benny how do you struggle so much with basic concepts? The “right to bear arms” was created hundreds of years ago. Since then new laws have been added to stipulate what KINDS of “arms” you can bear. Laws like the NFA of 1934 and the GCA of 1968. And various state/local laws.
But yes the prospect of increasing restrictions placed on the 2nd amendment is what organizations like the NRA and other pro-gun lobbyists are fighting. How dumb are you for real
He's just childishly argumentative. -
2018-03-31 at 10:43 AM UTCI think it's just the language/cultural barrier, he doesn't seem like a dumb guy
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2018-03-31 at 10:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by Juicebox I think it's just the language/cultural barrier, he doesn't seem like a dumb guy
Yeah no he’s actually very intelligent and he’s clearly just trolling us. Although beneath the troll, he really does have anti-gun sentiments. He just doesn’t make the effort to articulate them seriously, lest he give up the whole FOB “chinaman” act
Anyway sometimes I just like to feed the troll, you know indulge them a little bit -
2018-03-31 at 5:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws Fucks sake Benny how do you struggle so much with basic concepts? The “right to bear arms” was created hundreds of years ago. Since then new laws have been added to stipulate what KINDS of “arms” you can bear. Laws like the NFA of 1934 and the GCA of 1968. And various state/local laws.
which is why i said laws and constitution arent the same thing.
1 - laws that used to be laws but are no longer now and had become a mere guideline, thats constitution.
laws that are in effect, that judges and juries and officers of the law may use, apply or interpret whether a something or an action is right or wrong,
thats law.
and
2 -U.S. Constitution - Amendment 13
Amendment 13 - Slavery Abolished
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1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
so in a way, amendment 18 is just a suggestion, a mere moral obligation untill it was ratified or untill appropriate laws had been written on how to deal with it. -
2018-03-31 at 8:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader which is why i said laws and constitution arent the same thing.
1 - laws that used to be laws but are no longer now and had become a mere guideline, thats constitution.
laws that are in effect, that judges and juries and officers of the law may use, apply or interpret whether a something or an action is right or wrong,
thats law.
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so in a way, amendment 18 is just a suggestion, a mere moral obligation untill it was ratified or untill appropriate laws had been written on how to deal with it.
The constitution is law dumbass. It's the law all laws must obey. -
2018-04-01 at 3:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader which is why i said laws and constitution arent the same thing.
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_law -
2018-04-01 at 3:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader 1 - laws that used to be laws but are no longer now and had become a mere guideline, thats constitution.
laws that are in effect, that judges and juries and officers of the law may use, apply or interpret whether a something or an action is right or wrong,
thats law.
You know how cops need a warrant or probable cause to search your shit?
That’s because of the 4th Amendment of the Consitution -
2018-04-01 at 3:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker The constitution is law dumbass. It's the law all laws must obey.
1 - constitutional law =/= constitution just like how prostitutional laws =/= prostitution.
2 - tell me about the 18th amendment.
3 - you obviously did not read your own sauce :Constitutional laws may often be considered second order rule making or rules about making rules to exercise power. It governs the relationships between the judiciary, the legislature and the executive with the bodies under its authority. One of the key tasks of constitutions within this context is to indicate hierarchies and relationships of power. For example, in a unitary state,
4 - your a faggot. -
2018-04-01 at 3:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader 1 - constitutional law =/= constitution just like how prostitutional laws =/= prostitution.
2 - tell me about the 18th amendment.
3 - you obviously did not read your own sauce :
4 - your a faggot.
RETARD
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2018-04-01 at 4:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws You know how cops need a warrant or probable cause to search your shit?
That’s because of the 4th Amendment of the Consitution
thats just a suggestion.
theres an entire book of laws that defines whats a legal searches and seizure and whats not.
you can just go to a court and say the evidences against you are all null and void becos their fruit of illegal searches and seizures.
you need to rely on an assortment of laws to prove why the searches and seizures if any, should be deemed illegal.
if it was that simple, this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Proposal_and_ratification
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2018-04-01 at 4:07 AM UTCSee previous response
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2018-04-01 at 4:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws RETARD
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause
federal constitution =/= federal law. -
2018-04-01 at 4:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader federal constitution =/= federal law.
“The Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land.”
It literally says the Constitution is the supreme law of the land. How does that fit with your argument that the Constitution is not law?