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DNS failover to Newtotse
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2018-02-25 at 2:55 AM UTC
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2018-02-25 at 6:04 AM UTCLanny hasn't weighed in on this yet.
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2018-02-25 at 8:12 AM UTCoh yeah, gonna get right on that. Let me just get out my checkbook.
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2018-02-25 at 10:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL This site can’t provide a secure connection
newtotse.com uses an unsupported protocol.
ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH
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The client and server don't support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite. This is likely to be caused when the server needs RC4, which is no longer considered secure.
Open up the F12 developer tools and click on the security tab and see what it says. -
2018-02-25 at 11:20 AM UTC
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2018-02-25 at 11:21 AM UTCBurn your computer.
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2018-02-25 at 11:28 AM UTC
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2018-02-25 at 12:41 PM UTCYour site needs to support a cipher that is available in Windows XP, which is why you are getting the cipher suite mismatch. Your SSL Labs test report lists the following ciphers:
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (0xc02b) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 128
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (0xc023) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 128
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (0xc009) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 128
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0xc02c) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 256
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 (0xc024) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 256
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (0xc00a) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 256
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (0xc008) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 112
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (0xcc14) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 256P
(P) This server prefers ChaCha20 suites with clients that don't have AES-NI (e.g., Android devices)
Here are the supported TLS cipher suites in Windows XP/Server 2003.
TLS_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
TLS_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
TLS_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
TLS_RSA_EXPORT1024_WITH_RC4_56_SHA
TLS_RSA_EXPORT1024_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
TLS_DHE_DSS_EXPORT1024_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
TLS_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
TLS_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_RC2_CBC_40_MD5
TLS_RSA_WITH_NULL_MD5
TLS_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa380512(v=vs.85).aspx
Your site won't work from Windows XP at all. You need to add one of the supported suites if you want to support Windows XP. The one most commonly used seems to be the aforementioned TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA. -
2018-02-25 at 12:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Your site needs to support a cipher that is available in Windows XP, which is why you are getting the cipher suite mismatch. Your SSL Labs test report lists the following ciphers:
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (0xc02b) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 128
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (0xc023) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 128
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (0xc009) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 128
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0xc02c) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 256
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 (0xc024) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 256
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (0xc00a) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 256
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (0xc008) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 112
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (0xcc14) ECDH secp256r1 (eq. 3072 bits RSA) FS 256P
(P) This server prefers ChaCha20 suites with clients that don't have AES-NI (e.g., Android devices)
Here are the supported TLS cipher suites in Windows XP/Server 2003.
TLS_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
TLS_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA
TLS_RSA_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
TLS_RSA_EXPORT1024_WITH_RC4_56_SHA
TLS_RSA_EXPORT1024_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
TLS_DHE_DSS_EXPORT1024_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
TLS_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_RC4_40_MD5
TLS_RSA_EXPORT_WITH_RC2_CBC_40_MD5
TLS_RSA_WITH_NULL_MD5
TLS_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa380512(v=vs.85).aspx
Your site won't work from Windows XP at all. You need to add one of the supported suites if you want to support Windows XP. The one most commonly used seems to be the aforementioned TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA.
Christ, Speccy. XP is officially unsupported since April of 2014. You're grasping at straws here. If anyone is using XP (even POS systems with +5 years extra updates) is asking for security holes. -
2018-02-25 at 12:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Grimace Christ, Speccy. XP is officially unsupported since April of 2014. You're grasping at straws here. If anyone is using XP (even POS systems with +5 years extra updates) is asking for security holes.
Lots of workplaces and educational institutions, and even some old-school users like me, still use WinXP. That's because it's super fast, smooth, never crashes, and has very few problems in functionality. So, you may deem it unusable and outdated, but there are still millions of users out there who will continue to use it. -
2018-02-25 at 12:50 PM UTCThat's interesting.
I don't have an XP machine, but neither newtotse.com or niggasin.space will work on my MacOS9 iBook.
I guess neither site will allow you to browse unencrypted. -
2018-02-25 at 12:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Lots of workplaces and educational institutions, and even some old-school users like me, still use WinXP. That's because it's super fast, smooth, never crashes, and has very few problems in functionality. So, you may deem it unusable and outdated, but there are still millions of users out there who will continue to use it.
That's an appeal to popularity Special and it's an idiotic reason for using A)Windows B)An outdated version. -
2018-02-25 at 1 PM UTCThere are still about 140 million computers around the world using WinXP. Fact.
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2018-02-25 at 1:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Lots of workplaces and educational institutions, and even some old-school users like me, still use WinXP. That's because it's super fast, smooth, never crashes, and has very few problems in functionality. So, you may deem it unusable and outdated, but there are still millions of users out there who will continue to use it.
I totally agree with you 100%. Lots of people still use it. Lots of the developing world uses it. Where they did well to have computers for their workplaces or educational institutions. They'd be hard pressed to make a budget to upgrade to a modern OS. As stable and lovable as XP was, the fact of the matter remains. From a security standpoint, it's like Swiss cheese - full of holes - unpatched at that. Sure, there are efforts to patch them from private groups, but the common user isn't doing that. XP is a security risk, as great and stable as it was and is. -
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2018-02-25 at 1:19 PM UTCFirefox is not Chrome.