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Is human behavior biological?

  1. #21
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Captain Falcon There is no mind-body separation.

    How do you divide experience-having matter from inert matter? Presumably you'll admit that experience exists, while I don't think you're going to hop on the panpsychism train any time soon. If minds are reducible to physical phenomena how do you explain experience? Why should we find ourselves in possession of any qualitatively different properties than, say, a printer?

    Without taking out an additional ontological category for subjective experience you either need to deny the existence of subjective experience (perhaps admitting experience exists but is a mere set of physical states) or admit everything has qualitatively similar mental properties to humans, neither of which seem like a conclusion you should feel happy about.
  2. #22
    RestStop Space Nigga
    It's more social at this point.
  3. #23
    Originally posted by Lanny How do you divide experience-having matter from inert matter? Presumably you'll admit that experience exists, while I don't think you're going to hop on the panpsychism train any time soon. If minds are reducible to physical phenomena how do you explain experience? Why should we find ourselves in possession of any qualitatively different properties than, say, a printer?

    Without taking out an additional ontological category for subjective experience you either need to deny the existence of subjective experience (perhaps admitting experience exists but is a mere set of physical states) or admit everything has qualitatively similar mental properties to humans, neither of which seem like a conclusion you should feel happy about.

    I'm really fucking hungover so I'm going to be brief: rationally, I lean more towards your first option.

    I simply see no reason to believe that our "qualia" exists separate to our physical being, and lots of reasons to believe otherwise.

    Let's take the example of drugs: you normally have a specific set of experiences from a set environment and stimuli, you smoke weed, then you have a different (sometimes radically different) set of experiences from the same environment and stimuli.

    Presumably, the drugs also have some set of effects on your physical state that can be described physically (with enough information, you could say exactly how they affect your neurology). So presumably we can make some kind of link between the physical properties of your brain and the drug, and your experiences. IMO this at least process that there is some kind of "upstream" link between the physical world and your "mind". If you can attribute your behaviours to your mind, then there is a downstream link too. At that point I don't see any reason to believe that this phenomena called experience cannot be physically described.

    I used to believe in a mind/body separation but that changed relatively recently when I started changing my eating habits and felt a noticeable shift in my experiential state: I quit sugar entirely and in the first week or so it made me completely asspained about absolutely everything. Then one day I woke up feeling amazing, and it's started the way. The only real difference in my habits was I quit sugar, and the feeling has persisted.
  4. #24
    I lean towards the second option myself. The other day my printer was making this god awful noise, almost as if it was in pain.

    My printer is sentient I tell you
  5. #25
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    Originally posted by mashlehash Do you think that racism can be passed on through genetics, or is it inherited from environment situations?

    racism is bred out of fear and misunderstanding.



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  6. #26
    Originally posted by NARCassist racism is bred out of fear and misunderstanding.



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    how did I misunderstand last year's FBI crime statistics
  7. #27
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    Originally posted by Enter how did I misunderstand last year's FBI crime statistics

    you're not looking at the bigger picture. people commit crimes based on their situation. you can look down your nose at a robber or murderer but there is many situations you could find yourself in where you would commit the same crimes. racism has a tendency to force people into extreme situations where they see little other option.



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  8. #28
    Originally posted by Enter how did I misunderstand last year's FBI crime statistics

    By filling to understand the context of those statistics beyond the raw numbers.
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    The context being that niggers commit more crimes than white people
  10. #30
    Originally posted by Fox Paws The context being that niggers commit more crimes than white people

    Why do you think that is?
  11. #31
    Originally posted by Captain Falcon Why do you think that is?

    less evolved; more animal like
  12. #32
    Originally posted by Captain Falcon Why do you think that is?

    Because until very recently, African Americans were pigeonholed into poverty through oppressive legislation?
  13. #33
    Originally posted by Enter less evolved; more animal like

    There is zero scientific evidence to support this idea or anything resembling a biological factor that causes crime in "black" communities.
  14. #34
    Originally posted by Fox Paws Because until very recently, African Americans were pigeonholed into poverty through oppressive legislation?

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    Nah it’s cuz niggas gonna nig
  16. #36
    Originally posted by Captain Falcon anything resembling a biological factor

  17. #37
    Originally posted by Enter

    Wrap it up boys, we solved biology
  18. #38
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    humans closely related to apes, who'd have figured that one?



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    White people confirmed to shit in a box
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    White people confirmed to eat their own shit
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