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Is human behavior biological?
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2018-02-17 at 11:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon There is no mind-body separation.
How do you divide experience-having matter from inert matter? Presumably you'll admit that experience exists, while I don't think you're going to hop on the panpsychism train any time soon. If minds are reducible to physical phenomena how do you explain experience? Why should we find ourselves in possession of any qualitatively different properties than, say, a printer?
Without taking out an additional ontological category for subjective experience you either need to deny the existence of subjective experience (perhaps admitting experience exists but is a mere set of physical states) or admit everything has qualitatively similar mental properties to humans, neither of which seem like a conclusion you should feel happy about. -
2018-02-17 at 11:33 AM UTCIt's more social at this point.
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2018-02-17 at 12:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny How do you divide experience-having matter from inert matter? Presumably you'll admit that experience exists, while I don't think you're going to hop on the panpsychism train any time soon. If minds are reducible to physical phenomena how do you explain experience? Why should we find ourselves in possession of any qualitatively different properties than, say, a printer?
Without taking out an additional ontological category for subjective experience you either need to deny the existence of subjective experience (perhaps admitting experience exists but is a mere set of physical states) or admit everything has qualitatively similar mental properties to humans, neither of which seem like a conclusion you should feel happy about.
I'm really fucking hungover so I'm going to be brief: rationally, I lean more towards your first option.
I simply see no reason to believe that our "qualia" exists separate to our physical being, and lots of reasons to believe otherwise.
Let's take the example of drugs: you normally have a specific set of experiences from a set environment and stimuli, you smoke weed, then you have a different (sometimes radically different) set of experiences from the same environment and stimuli.
Presumably, the drugs also have some set of effects on your physical state that can be described physically (with enough information, you could say exactly how they affect your neurology). So presumably we can make some kind of link between the physical properties of your brain and the drug, and your experiences. IMO this at least process that there is some kind of "upstream" link between the physical world and your "mind". If you can attribute your behaviours to your mind, then there is a downstream link too. At that point I don't see any reason to believe that this phenomena called experience cannot be physically described.
I used to believe in a mind/body separation but that changed relatively recently when I started changing my eating habits and felt a noticeable shift in my experiential state: I quit sugar entirely and in the first week or so it made me completely asspained about absolutely everything. Then one day I woke up feeling amazing, and it's started the way. The only real difference in my habits was I quit sugar, and the feeling has persisted. -
2018-02-17 at 12:52 PM UTCI lean towards the second option myself. The other day my printer was making this god awful noise, almost as if it was in pain.
My printer is sentient I tell you -
2018-02-17 at 1:33 PM UTC
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2018-02-17 at 1:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by Enter how did I misunderstand last year's FBI crime statistics
you're not looking at the bigger picture. people commit crimes based on their situation. you can look down your nose at a robber or murderer but there is many situations you could find yourself in where you would commit the same crimes. racism has a tendency to force people into extreme situations where they see little other option.
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2018-02-17 at 1:42 PM UTC
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2018-02-17 at 2:37 PM UTCThe context being that niggers commit more crimes than white people
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2018-02-17 at 2:50 PM UTC
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2018-02-17 at 2:54 PM UTC
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2018-02-17 at 2:57 PM UTC
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2018-02-17 at 2:59 PM UTCNah it’s cuz niggas gonna nig
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2018-02-17 at 3:03 PM UTC
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2018-02-17 at 3:04 PM UTChumans closely related to apes, who'd have figured that one?
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2018-02-17 at 3:10 PM UTC
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