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2016-08-28 at 11:52 PM UTCThis space station sucks!. The food is laced with weed and LSD and all people do is fight and bitch.
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2016-08-29 at 2:40 AM UTC
I'll assume you forgot the part where he played his ukulele to a goose but it's crucial to the plot so just a reminder everyone. §m£ÂgØL played his ukulele to a goose and it was the happiest moment of his life /quote.
You're weird, Hunter. Uhhmmm... Was the goose cooked or uncooked? -
2016-08-29 at 5:52 AM UTCThe goose thing happened sometime in January after I mailed §m£ÂgØL several Christmas presents and drugs, including a whole script of klonopin in a TenderHeart CareBear. He was drinking heavily then (can't think of many instances when he wasn't but difference is now he had benzos.) He got fucked up drinking and taking some kpins he overpaid for from his friend ($5 for a 1mg kpin is highway robbery- and no real friend would ever make a friend pay that insane price) right before the package was delivered and it was so bad that I was going to see if I could have the package returned before he got it but after talking to him and a million promises that he wouldn't abuse them I let it go.
He got them and then broke my heart, treated me like shit, abused the kpins and somewhere along the line, the day he did all this, earlier before the shit storm, he played his ukulele for a goose. I still have the picture he sent me when he told me about his goose encounter.
He told me about it to justify his abuse of the drugs I sent to help him with his anxiety and paranoia, telling me how it helped him not live in fear. After the goose story he wrote me a email explaining how he couldn't be in his son's life because I was in it while I was at work and I had an anxiety attack and almost lost my job. I was barely hanging on by a thread back then and he knew this. The goose incident had nothing to do when he visited.
So, apparently, §m£ÂgØL likes playing his ukulele fucked out of his mind on benzos and it was the happiest moment of his life. I had geese myself many years ago. I also enjoyed going outside at night to smoke and sing to them while they bedded down. It's sweet how they would get in time with me with their honks and sorta sing along with me, so I can understand why he may have had such an enjoyable time with a goose he wandered across while out hiking around. -
2016-08-29 at 5:53 AM UTCgreat, now my username is associated with §m£ÂgØL and child molestation. just fucking stellar. thanks guys.
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2016-08-29 at 6:05 AM UTCYou're welcome, aldra. Honestly though, Bill Krozby and spectral deserve all the credit.
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2016-08-29 at 11:09 AM UTC
great, now my username is associated with §m£ÂgØL and child molestation. just fucking stellar. thanks guys.
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2016-08-29 at 3:22 PM UTCI like geese
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2016-08-29 at 5:53 PM UTCI read this thread and I agree with Lannys point other than the net harm of being an absentee father being greater than physically fucking a child. I agree wholeheartedly that Bill Krozby is a piece of shit but is he such a piece of shit that it'd be better for his daughter to have never met him? There are many people with absentee fathers who've gone on to great things, John Lennon, Barack Obama, the NBA etc.
But when he comes to a daughter, it's pretty cut and dry she'll end up with a case of daddy issues (which can lead to putting herself in dangerous situations resulting in rape), maybe she'll channel it into being a great musician or painter, maybe she'll be a matinee stripper who cuts herself, it's hard to say but I'd lean towards the latter given Bill Krozby's DNA. Hopefully she finds some sort of peace and normalcy but it's anyones guess. I'm just saying it's still up for debate whether his absenteeism is worse than physically fucking a child. I mean, it's well established Bill Krozby is a weak and stupid piece of shit but it's consciously evil to actively rape a child, that kinda shit's harder to deal with than having a shitty father you don't know. Fuck, my ex GF only ever met her father once, completely by accident (she was also raped as a teenager) and she didn't turn out absolutely terrible. Most girls who were molested as children have severe body dysmorphia issues while most girls who don't know their father are just whores.
Basically, if she has a good enough male role model in her life the damage can be mitigated, not to say Bill Krozby isn't a fucking goof, just saying it's not completely black and white. Fuck, even if he was in her life he might manage to screw it up worse. -
2016-08-29 at 6:28 PM UTCWe are kinda over Bill Krozby not having contact with her, it's the fact that he stopped paying child support and then spends the money on Slipknot tickets while acting like he's some kind of "life-artist"(?) who's so much much cooler than everyobody and that's pissing me off. He thinks being a drunk, meth smoking, STD dispensing Pizza boy instead of being a half-assed father is cool for some reason and I can't accept that.
Let's all not forget Zek, though. That rotten piece of garbage did the same thing and like Bill Krozby, there is no guilt or regrets or anything. Those two compete for the top spot of community shitcunts galore. -
2016-08-29 at 6:55 PM UTCIt's a two-way street, regardless of the moral beauty contest fluff. If the mother of the child is not giving him proper access, and he never gets to see the child, and he is being labelled a mere "sperm donor" by that very same mother, he has no obligation whatsoever to provide any financial support. Basically, the mother is practically screaming that he is not the actual father, has no rights, and that she or the child has no need whatsoever of him. I would personally not give a cent to the mother of my child in such a situation. To the child directly? Absolutely. But how could he do that with the "mother" waiting to snatch it? Hey, if this "mother" thinks she's so self-sufficient and entirely capable, let HER finance the kid. After all, she's the one who is insisting the father has no rights or responsibilities.
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2016-08-30 at 1:01 AM UTC
It's a two-way street, regardless of the moral beauty contest fluff. If the mother of the child is not giving him proper access, and he never gets to see the child, and he is being labelled a mere "sperm donor" by that very same mother, he has no obligation whatsoever to provide any financial support. Basically, the mother is practically screaming that he is not the actual father, has no rights, and that she or the child has no need whatsoever of him. I would personally not give a cent to the mother of my child in such a situation. To the child directly? Absolutely. But how could he do that with the "mother" waiting to snatch it? Hey, if this "mother" thinks she's so self-sufficient and entirely capable, let HER finance the kid. After all, she's the one who is insisting the father has no rights or responsibilities.
He's got a point here
I mean how many single parents actually spend child support money on their children? -
2016-08-30 at 3:26 AM UTC
If the mother of the child is not giving him proper access, and he never gets to see the child, and he is being labelled a mere "sperm donor" by that very same mother, he has no obligation whatsoever to provide any financial support.
Why? Why does the fact that Bill Krozby's daughter's mom (allegedly) doesn't hold to a visitation agreement mean that Bill Krozby can now wash all his hands of responsibility for his child? Why should she have to live in poverty because her parents couldn't get their shit together?
Child support does is not rent you pay for your child's alternative weekends, if Bill Krozby actually wanted to see his daughter he would have paid a lawyer to enforce his rights (he could have recovered costs as well) but instead he engaged in the legal equivalent of leaving his child on someone's front porch.He's got a point here
I mean how many single parents actually spend child support money on their children?
Seeing as the woman in question works at staples and, unlike Bill Krozby, has not completely given up in taking care of her daughter I think it's reasonable to guess she's not blowing a ton of money on frivolous things. Shit though, she could be spending every weekend at ritzy spas and it would do more for Bill Krozby's kid than him buying booze/drugs or funneling it into the justice system as plaintiff in civil and defendant in criminal suits. -
2016-08-30 at 4:26 AM UTCLike ya know... Bill Krozby could have done something completely crazy here and uh... Fought to get custody of his daughter. He bitches about how she is such a terrible mother and bounces around and all...
What this would require is first Bill Krozby to have stable employment (anywhere full time, or a job split to add up- as long as it shows a stable, legal work history), a place he and his daughter could live, and him documenting EVERYTHING. going to court for everything regarding the child, even when he might not be obligated to go, insisting on visitations and documenting when he is denied (in court you could say to the judge, due to work/transportation issues how hard its made for you to see your daughter and some judges might be kind enough to stipulate, as long as child support has been up to date for a good length of time, that the mother would meet you half way, or give you weekends where she could stay, or or allow you to have her for holidays, ect.)and record all communications with her (not sure on Texas law, but some states to record you need to make the other party aware- in Florida recording is fair game), and when you communicate with her, do it with registered mil so you have verifiable documentation to present with the judge, not to mention judges like to see initiative when it regards parenting a child and also trying to communicate with the other parent.
Yes, most judges will always side with the mother on custody, but from what he's said about her, if true, and if he changed his act and was truly up to date with child support, then by showing the judge the hard work he putting toward this child, an opportunity may arise to where she would lose custody, the judge may award him split custody, or a better deal with visitations. It would require Bill Krozby to keep either quit his degenerate behavior or at least keep in hidden away and toned down. His criminal record doesn't help his case any, but in time a judge would come around once he sees a person trying to be a good father to their child and would eventually side with that father in a case where the mother is denying or making it hard for him to see and spend time in his child's life. It wouldn't happen over night and would require a lot of persistence, but any father who loved their child would do it and also even if the mother did everything in her power to hinder those efforts, it would show to the daughter when she is older that her father CARED AND LOVED HER enough to jump through those hoops, and nothing the mother could do would stop that.
Even if you're fucked at every turn of the legal system, the fact you tried and tried and tried to do best for that child is what would count to her when she is old enough to understand. As much as you spent on a lawyer to forsake your parental rights could have at least have got you a better deal on visitations.
Like Lanny said regarding the mother spending extravagantly... Let's play Devil's advocate and assume she did. In court you could request statements to the care of the child so the court and you could see that she in fact is being taken care of properly. I don't know what your child support was, but taking a guess, based on your job, I'm gonna say something between 200-400$ a month. Rent for where they stay is a legitiment expense even if the parent lives there, the child needs a roof, electricity is another, so is insurance on a car/car payments to transport the child to doctors appts/school/beneficial activities for the child/for the mother to go to and from work,doctors visits/copays/prescriptions/dental, food, clothing, school supplies... And well, if you agree with it or not, depending on the judge on question even entertainment for the child wouldn't be considered extravagant spending within reason of course...
I'm sure whatever you were ordered to pay was a drop in the bucket for the care of that child. Not to mention that youve never factored in the burden it is to actually raise a child. Having to miss work if they are sick or hurt to go to a doctor or ER, making sure they get on the bus/driving them to school, taking them to appointments, extracurricular activities, helping them with homework, making time in your life to have quality time with them and do things when you can, dealing with them when they are angry, hurt, upset, depressed, having trouble at school, or even having social problems at school. Its a taxing thing to parent and care for a child day in and day out. It can be a wonderful thing in a lot of aspects, but its a lot of work and hard to do. I don't believed she was this shit person you say she is because you either are lying or are truly the terrible one for not fighting to give her a better life and be there for her. It doesn't matter what the mother does or did- it's about you and your daughter.
I would go to the ends of the earth for my son to have a good life, and if I'm not in his life, its because I am dead. I will never stop fighting for him and I would move mountains and be with him as long as I am alive, come hell or high water. Court order or no. I'd fight for my child in every way I could and my father was the same way with me. I was blessed with a father who loved me to the ends of the earth ad back, and one who would have done ANYTHING to be in my life. I forget that not all fathers are like my own- he was a flawed man, but not when it came to the love and care he had for me. -
2016-08-30 at 6:43 AM UTC
It's a two-way street, regardless of the moral beauty contest fluff. If the mother of the child is not giving him proper access, and he never gets to see the child, and he is being labelled a mere "sperm donor" by that very same mother, he has no obligation whatsoever to provide any financial support. Basically, the mother is practically screaming that he is not the actual father, has no rights, and that she or the child has no need whatsoever of him. I would personally not give a cent to the mother of my child in such a situation. To the child directly? Absolutely. But how could he do that with the "mother" waiting to snatch it? Hey, if this "mother" thinks she's so self-sufficient and entirely capable, let HER finance the kid. After all, she's the one who is insisting the father has no rights or responsibilities.
spectral kinda has a point, my daughters mom lied to me telling me she never wanted to have kids, and that she was on birth control, she gets pregnant and then her and her family act like dicks and say they don't need my money... then they take my money after saying they would adopt the child... and I was paying for child support at the time I was payed for my slipknot tix months ago.. did i get to see my child for her my bday? for fathers day? no... so I bought slipknot tix for my bday while giving money to a child I couldn't see...
shit I don't see why I get such a backlash, considering I'm far from the only guy on here that doesn't see his kid... at least I was there when she was born, still went to court/ the doctors appts, and tried to work it out with her parents.
Don't get me wrong I felt really bad and still do about the situation, but its a kinda "lose, lose" situation. So what am I going to do, go visit my kid at mcdonalds while my daughters mom lives from loser to loser that kicks her out? okay.. yeah that makes a lot of since...
you see it time and time again here in america... even guys that had a lot more going on than me.. that were married... and had a child that were basically fucked over big time...
I feel like I did everyone a favor including myself. I know its hard for a lot of you simpletons to understand that. but its true. I made more money than my daughters mom.. she didn't have to pay rent or.. or food, she lived off of bf's , the government, and her parents.
she's actually lucky she got anything. and on top of it all, i still have to pay a mandatory fee for medical of almost 500 for medical. That just naturally accures, regardless of whether the child actually had to be seen by the doctor.
and by the way, seeing slipknot and manson was pretty badass, i mean why shouldn't i enjoy seeing slipknot? my daughters mom went and saw "nickleback" and a "spurs" basket ball game with her loser fiance that has a kid and said he'd adopt mine and yet can't because he doesn't have a job lol
its a shitty situation.. but its easy to get doopd into things
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2016-08-30 at 6:54 AM UTC
Why? Why does the fact that Bill Krozby's daughter's mom (allegedly) doesn't hold to a visitation agreement mean that Bill Krozby can now wash all his hands of responsibility for his child? Why should she have to live in poverty because her parents couldn't get their shit together?
Child support does is not rent you pay for your child's alternative weekends, if Bill Krozby actually wanted to see his daughter he would have paid a lawyer to enforce his rights (he could have recovered costs as well) but instead he engaged in the legal equivalent of leaving his child on someone's front porch.
Seeing as the woman in question works at staples and, unlike Bill Krozby, has not completely given up in taking care of her daughter I think it's reasonable to guess she's not blowing a ton of money on frivolous things. Shit though, she could be spending every weekend at ritzy spas and it would do more for Bill Krozby's kid than him buying booze/drugs or funneling it into the justice system as plaintiff in civil and defendant in criminal suits.
i paid a attorney you numbskull, it doesn't work as easy as you think. look into child support cases in texas and maybe you'd understand you derpadew. The rights I had were shitty, I had like a few hours a month... and I had to meet at anywhere she approved which was mcdonalds, because her bf didn't want me at his house.. and my daughters and her mom lived over and hour away... and I had no way to contact her..
some of you guys just don't get how it is here in the dirty south! lol you're an armchair attorney lanny you're out of your element.
Why should I have to pay for a child I can't see? maybe my daughters mom should have paid me.. I mean I do actually have a place to live and don't live in a shit hole like her and her family does.. the burden shouldn't always be put on the guy. Plus she had the option to get an abortion but she chose not to, she told me she wanted to have the kid and didn't need my money..
guys have very little rights in these matters. But lanny you'll never know about anything like this, because you probably couldn't move your dick fast enough to get a girl pregnant.
my daughters mom, myself, my attorney all went infront of a judge and we all decided this was the appropriate course of action. she wanted it.. just like she wanted to have a child -
2016-08-30 at 6:56 AM UTC
Like ya know… Bill Krozby could have done something completely crazy here and uh… Fought to get custody of his daughter. He bitches about how she is such a terrible mother and bounces around and all…
What this would require is first Bill Krozby to have stable employment (anywhere full time, or a job split to add up- as long as it shows a stable, legal work history), a place he and his daughter could live, and him documenting EVERYTHING. going to court for everything regarding the child, even when he might not be obligated to go, insisting on visitations and documenting when he is denied (in court you could say to the judge, due to work/transportation issues how hard its made for you to see your daughter and some judges might be kind enough to stipulate, as long as child support has been up to date for a good length of time, that the mother would meet you half way, or give you weekends where she could stay, or or allow you to have her for holidays, ect.)and record all communications with her (not sure on Texas law, but some states to record you need to make the other party aware- in Florida recording is fair game), and when you communicate with her, do it with registered mil so you have verifiable documentation to present with the judge, not to mention judges like to see initiative when it regards parenting a child and also trying to communicate with the other parent.
Yes, most judges will always side with the mother on custody, but from what he's said about her, if true, and if he changed his act and was truly up to date with child support, then by showing the judge the hard work he putting toward this child, an opportunity may arise to where she would lose custody, the judge may award him split custody, or a better deal with visitations. It would require Bill Krozby to keep either quit his degenerate behavior or at least keep in hidden away and toned down. His criminal record doesn't help his case any, but in time a judge would come around once he sees a person trying to be a good father to their child and would eventually side with that father in a case where the mother is denying or making it hard for him to see and spend time in his child's life. It wouldn't happen over night and would require a lot of persistence, but any father who loved their child would do it and also even if the mother did everything in her power to hinder those efforts, it would show to the daughter when she is older that her father CARED AND LOVED HER enough to jump through those hoops, and nothing the mother could do would stop that.
Even if you're fucked at every turn of the legal system, the fact you tried and tried and tried to do best for that child is what would count to her when she is old enough to understand. As much as you spent on a lawyer to forsake your parental rights could have at least have got you a better deal on visitations.
Like Lanny said regarding the mother spending extravagantly… Let's play Devil's advocate and assume she did. In court you could request statements to the care of the child so the court and you could see that she in fact is being taken care of properly. I don't know what your child support was, but taking a guess, based on your job, I'm gonna say something between 200-400$ a month. Rent for where they stay is a legitiment expense even if the parent lives there, the child needs a roof, electricity is another, so is insurance on a car/car payments to transport the child to doctors appts/school/beneficial activities for the child/for the mother to go to and from work,doctors visits/copays/prescriptions/dental, food, clothing, school supplies… And well, if you agree with it or not, depending on the judge on question even entertainment for the child wouldn't be considered extravagant spending within reason of course…
I'm sure whatever you were ordered to pay was a drop in the bucket for the care of that child. Not to mention that youve never factored in the burden it is to actually raise a child. Having to miss work if they are sick or hurt to go to a doctor or ER, making sure they get on the bus/driving them to school, taking them to appointments, extracurricular activities, helping them with homework, making time in your life to have quality time with them and do things when you can, dealing with them when they are angry, hurt, upset, depressed, having trouble at school, or even having social problems at school. Its a taxing thing to parent and care for a child day in and day out. It can be a wonderful thing in a lot of aspects, but its a lot of work and hard to do. I don't believed she was this shit person you say she is because you either are lying or are truly the terrible one for not fighting to give her a better life and be there for her. It doesn't matter what the mother does or did- it's about you and your daughter.
I would go to the ends of the earth for my son to have a good life, and if I'm not in his life, its because I am dead. I will never stop fighting for him and I would move mountains and be with him as long as I am alive, come hell or high water. Court order or no. I'd fight for my child in every way I could and my father was the same way with me. I was blessed with a father who loved me to the ends of the earth ad back, and one who would have done ANYTHING to be in my life. I forget that not all fathers are like my own- he was a flawed man, but not when it came to the love and care he had for me.
I had a stable income, stable employment, and a paid attorney. I had and still have a lot more than her mother has ever had.. so quit talking out your ass.. you have a child and you bitched awhile back about how you can't get child support for your baby.
I've had my own place since I was 22, I'm 29 now. My daughters mother never has. Do you even have your own place? does your babies dad have his own place? You even mentioned how you had 2 women take care of your child for you...
so like I said quit talking out of your ass. Just because I'm skeptical of some girl that says she's pregnant with her kid and I want a paternity test all hell breaks lose. hydro did you ever get a paternity test to see who your babies dad is? hmmmm?
Yeah like I said, its a fucked up situation. theirs fault on both sides.. and thats why we came to an agreement, at least my daughter and her mom got money out of me. And she doesn't want me around anyways.. so whats the big deal?
If I ever start balling again I'll totally have a child again. but until now I am very careful about who I spend my time with. Almost every girl I've been with including my ex gf, claimed they were pregnant, and never were at all lol
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2016-08-30 at 12:30 PM UTC
Why? Why does the fact that Bill Krozby's daughter's mom (allegedly) doesn't hold to a visitation agreement mean that Bill Krozby can now wash all his hands of responsibility for his child? Why should she have to live in poverty because her parents couldn't get their shit together?…
Why? Well, it's simple. Because the kid has a mother who doesn't care that the kid needs a father, and only cares about herself. There's your source of the problem right there. Take the selfish mother out of the situation and there wouldn't have been a problem at all with support or responsibilities.
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2016-08-30 at 2:15 PM UTC^this.
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2016-08-30 at 7:33 PM UTC
^this.
Don't let it get to you. There's females all over the fucking place now who just use men to get a kid so their lazy asses can go on free family benefits, then they figure they can just ditch the father once the checks start coming in, and then they even want their cake and eat it, too, in trying to extort more out of the sucker they manipulated. Best to create a joint account in your and your kid's name in such a way that the manipulative, lazy bitch can't get her paws on it, but that the kid can draw on it when he or she needs it. -
2016-08-30 at 7:37 PM UTCDo you love your daughter Bill Krozby? Would you die for her?
