User Controls
Revolution in Iran
-
2018-01-02 at 4:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader perspective ;
if the government controls and is directly responsible for the economy, then protesting the state of the economy is also protesting against the government.
I'm guessing you understand this well enough but I meant they're demonstrations to try to convince the government to change it's policy, not to demand the government step down or be dissolved
I should fire up a new conflict shitpile - I haven't because what's going on now isn't direct conflict, but the underlying geopolitics are shifting fast and could easily trigger another -
2018-01-02 at 5:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I'm guessing you understand this well enough but I meant they're demonstrations to try to convince the government to change it's policy, not to demand the government step down or be dissolved
its an eventuality.
their bitching about economic policies that dont work and demanding that the government change them, government refuses.
they now arrive at the juncture where they ask themselves whether to demand a regime change or just go home. -
2018-01-02 at 5:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader thats my retarded way of saying that just becos you have a pantheon of F35s doesnt guarantee you air supremacy.
and that planes with radar-stealth capabilities are going to be obsolete soon as detection via optical technology, land-based or satellite-based, improves.
that word...air supremacy...i dont think it means what you think that it means.
iran doesnt have any 'advanced' fighters that can compete with the current generation of aircraft.
F14s arent in any way capable dog-fighters. the only thing i said was iran was the only country that has F14 in use in a combat role. sort of. -
2018-01-02 at 5:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock that word…air supremacy…i dont think it means what you think that it means.
iran doesnt have any 'advanced' fighters that can compete with the current generation of aircraft.
F14s arent in any way capable dog-fighters. the only thing i said was iran was the only country that has F14 in use in a combat role. sort of.
true but you have to ask yourself what are the purposes of having combatt aircrafts ???
if iran wanted combatt aircrafts for the sake of just having them, or for remote power projection or attack, then maybe maybe having f14s is not enough ...
but if they just wanted them solely for defensive purpose, and if they can achieve those defensive purpose without the need for new, advanced aircrafts, then id say the the f14s served them well.
the better question is can american planes successfully penetrate their AA systems and bomb the shit out of them, and if they can deter american planes from bombing them with SAMs alone, i dont see why they need something better than f14. -
2018-01-02 at 6:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader true but you have to ask yourself what are the purposes of having combatt aircrafts ???
if iran wanted combatt aircrafts for the sake of just having them, or for remote power projection or attack, then maybe maybe having f14s is not enough …
but if they just wanted them solely for defensive purpose, and if they can achieve those defensive purpose without the need for new, advanced aircrafts, then id say the the f14s served them well.
the better question is can american planes successfully penetrate their AA systems and bomb the shit out of them, and if they can deter american planes from bombing them with SAMs alone, i dont see why they need something better than f14.
um.
i really dont have a response for this.
nothing personal...but nothing you posted has any relevance to anything, anywhere, at all, and only demonstrates your lack of OOB and weapons platform utilization.
- f14s are an obsolete aircraft designed for a purpose/function that no longer exists.
- it is almost impossible for iran to obtain spare parts for the f14s...much less get them into the air without crashing them. i could make an entire thread about this but im not. go google it.
- iran has already demonstrated it has zero ability to counter anything a modernized military (sea, air, land, or cyber) will toss at it. another fun-times post i could make is their purchase of a certain 'ex'spensive' submarine that they were too scared to take below periscope-depth until the russkie suppliers literally, (no, i mean literally) forced the iranians to dive. -
2018-01-02 at 6:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock um.
i really dont have a response for this.
nothing personal…but nothing you posted has any relevance to anything, anywhere, at all, and only demonstrates your lack of OOB and weapons platform utilization.
- f14s are an obsolete aircraft designed for a purpose/function that no longer exists.
- it is almost impossible for iran to obtain spare parts for the f14s…much less get them into the air without crashing them. i could make an entire thread about this but im not. go google it.
- iran has already demonstrated it has zero ability to counter anything a modernized military (sea, air, land, or cyber) will toss at it. another fun-times post i could make is their purchase of a certain 'ex'spensive' submarine that they were too scared to take below periscope-depth until the russkie suppliers literally, (no, i mean literally) forced the iranians to dive.
so you mean like f14s isnt their problem, and that their problem actually not having modern military hardwares ...
isnt that ??? -
2018-01-02 at 6:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader so you mean like f14s isnt their problem, and that their problem actually not having modern military hardwares …
isnt that ???
what the shit. my mentioning f14s had no purpose whatsoever other than me reminiscing on the good old days when i used to...literally...bang my head into them when it was too dark to see where they were.
irans single biggest problem is islam. that religion prevents them from using their minds in a manner beyond what their religious precepts preach.
example: shitty-arabia. that shithole is literally overflowing with money and they buy top-of-the line military equipment. they literally buy shit they dont even need or have a prime-necessity for. they buy shit for the sole reason that the purchasing agent (most of the time a royal-fam'bly member) will get kick-backs from the manufacturer/seller then the user (saudi military) will receive the item and literally toss it into a giant hanger called 'dead storage' because they have no idea what to do with it. this entire paragraph was not paraphrasing or generalizing...this literally is a common occurrence. that being said...other than when the shitty-arabians are engaged in operations against equally fucktarded opponents, such as other handsome and well tanned individual mudslimes, their performance against a non-handsome and well tanned individual mudslime opponent is dismal. for example...during the gulf war (the one with kuwait) the saudis flying their top-of-the-line F15s were told to either stay on the ground or fly around doing something other than getting in the way of the real (western) pilots because they sucked so badly. -
2018-01-02 at 6:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock what the shit. my mentioning f14s had no purpose whatsoever other than me reminiscing on the good old days when i used to…literally…bang my head into them when it was too dark to see where they were.
i c.irans single biggest problem is islam. that religion prevents them from using their minds in a manner beyond what their religious precepts preach.
but not in the way you described.
iran is the most secular and progressive islamic country in the world next to iraq and that is why their having problems with saudis.
and the only way islam hindered their progresses is by being the natural enemy of the jedis, jedis who meddled in foreign policies of many countries into shunning them economically and diplomatically.
any country, islamic or otherwise that were put thru what the UN and america had put iran thru will come out just the same or even worse.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
