I expressed a moderate opinion last night and got called far right (irl)

1. 2016-01-08 at 1:46 PM UTC

   #21
   LiquidIce Houston

   Hurr durr America was founded by immigrants, sure, but way back when we didn't have a welfare state. People integrated into the dominant culture and all was well. Also i don't care about poor people moving to richer countries if they contribute to the economy and not just leech off the tax-payers money. If you had read the studies i posted you'd see immigrants are over repressented in welfare programs while never having paid into the system.

   Yeah, they "integrated" after a few generations of fighting bigotry:
   http://picturinghistory.gc.cuny.edu/item.php?item_id=211
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Italianism#Italian-American_stereotyping
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Poles_in_the_United_States#Early_perceptions
   "Future U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, in his 1902 historical text, "History of the American People", called Poles, Hungarians, and Italians, "men of the meaner sort" who possessed "neither skill nor energy nor any initiative of quick intelligence."
   
   This integration took decades of being treated like shit. I was hoping that maybe, a hundred or so years later, just maybe, we can avoid treating other people like shit because they have a funny accent? You know, welcome them in society, get them going, earning, paying taxes n all?
   
   I think the difference between you and me is that in my mind the immigrant-leeches are only a small portion of the whole group of migrants. Do what the Germans do - you gotta have worked and payed into the social security system for at least 12 months to get any welfare. You're not looking to fuck over all the immigrants, just the worst sort. The good guys that come here are more than eager to open their own business and thrive: http://www.inc.com/magazine/201502/adam-bluestein/the-most-entrepreneurial-group-in-america-wasnt-born-in-america.html
   
   

   Anyway, you sound like a socialist. And your argument of "maybe these ethnic groups should fucking reevaluate their perceptions of other ethnic groups" sounds nice and all but it doesn't work like that, everyone has in-group bias, and that goes for whites, niggers and mexicans.

   If calling me a socialist helps you then go for it. Don't you think it's worthwhile to at least move towards decreasing in-group bias?
   
   
2. 2016-01-08 at 4:21 PM UTC

   #22
   

   Sophie Pedophile Tech Support

   I think the difference between you and me is that in my mind the immigrant-leeches are only a small portion of the whole group of migrants.

   
   http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-Native-Households
   
   Cool story bro.
3. 2017-11-25 at 8:15 PM UTC

   #23
   

   Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
   I don't know how I ended up here but this thread literally proves the delusion of leftism
   
   I bet after 2 years of real-life proof you cunts still think the same
4. 2017-11-25 at 8:55 PM UTC

   #24
   

   mmQ Lisa Turtle
   There seem to be fair points from both sides. Now all we need is a simple compromise. Voilà.
5. 2017-11-26 at 5:40 AM UTC

   #25
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by mmQ There seem to be fair points from both sides. Now all we need is a simple compromise. Voilà.

   
   You gone make me call my bros for assistance.
6. 2017-11-26 at 5:49 AM UTC

   #26
   

   infinityshock Black Hole

   Originally posted by mmQ There seem to be fair points from both sides. Now all we need is a simple compromise. Voilà.

   
   no. every RL discussion ive had with a 'leftist/liberal-loon' has all turned out the same. theyre delusional and their affliction qualifies for addition to the DSM.
7. 2017-11-26 at 5:49 AM UTC

   #27
   

   Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]

   Originally posted by LiquidIce http://www.inc.com/magazine/201502/adam-bluestein/the-most-entrepreneurial-group-in-america-wasnt-born-in-america.html

   
   Does this article point out all the assistance immigrants get from the feds in starting a business that they don't give to sovereign born Americans?
8. 2017-11-26 at 6:18 AM UTC

   #28
   

   mmQ Lisa Turtle

   Originally posted by infinityshock no. every RL discussion ive had with a 'leftist/liberal-loon' has all turned out the same. theyre delusional and their affliction qualifies for addition to the DSM.

   
   Same here except dealing with 'rightists/conservative-loons.'