Okay, time to smite
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好
If these marches were in favor of all lives mattering, they would not be so vehemently against it. AllLivesMatter is inclusive. BlackLivesMatter is exclusive. Where is my MexicanLivesMatter protest? Do we need to do this for every fucking minority?
I literally already destroyed this argument in full: the matches are for black people's lives mattering. The movement is not anti-non-black, but it is pro black, and anti-misdirection-regarding-their-point.
Nobody treats it as an equivalent issue. But it's important to remember that cops are people to. People want to get all anti-establishment the minute they hear about some black dude getting shot 2,000 miles away.
The opposition to Blue Lives Matter is simply, again, the co-opting of the slogan to, again, misrepresent their point, which is not anti-police, it's anti-police-racism.
You have mothefuckers going out of their way to kill/assault cops over this shit. I'm not at all saying it's common, but it is this mentality that causes it to happen at all.
Show me examples of someone killing or assaulting innocent cops over police brutality, and that this is a real problem.
And the easy counterpoint is simply that no such thing would happen (retributive cop killings, if they even happen) if the police stopped shooting innocent black people.
BlackLivesMatter is massively anti-cop and that is just so regressive, it turns things into an us vs them mentality, which pretty much goes in line with how the whole BLM movement is.
BLM has zero anti-cop views. It has anti-cop-racism views. For example against stop and frisk, against the protection of police officers from prosecution by their departments etc.
First of all: Fucking lol. Let me get my uncle for you so he can tell you how he got paid under the table picking strawberries while paying rent for an on site shack just so he could work here in the USA.
Your illegal beaner uncle was doing something
illegal and being dealt with and employed in an
illegal manner.
We have laws against illegals, but we also have laws against hiring illegals for
that exact reason, because it necessarily leads to worse and worse treatment of the illegals, while fucking with the market.
Meanwhile legal latinos and Hispanics have much better representation in all segments of American society.
Black people have it pretty fucking good. They are legal citizens, they know the language, they aren't exploited for their cheap labor.You are a fucking moron.
1) Nothing justifies being a fourth class citizen even by a little bit.
2) Black people are disproportionately represented in prison populations. Privatised prison lobbies are some of the largest sponsors of anti-drug legislation, including against the legalization of marijuana, and the war on drugs. It has been shown unequivocally that black neighborhoods are disproportionately policed and enforced, and therefore black people are grossly overrepresented in arrests relating to the personal possession of marijuana, even though the usage rate of marijuana is higher amongst white people. Within these prisons, the (disproportionately largely black) population is exploited for cheap prison labour, which is, again, lobbied for by civil contractors and prison guard unions and privatised prison lobbyists.
You know why the hispanics don't have a brown lives matter movement? They're too busy working and they wouldn't know how to spell it right anyway.
Yes, there are no Hispanic advocacy groups.
BLM is a massive organization in this movement, and they absolutely reflect what the rest of the movement thinks. You can disagree here but you'd be wrong because I am always right. I'm not about to give you a bunch of sources though because I know I'm right so I don't need to. I'm 100% correct. (Really though there's no point, this is just my impression of the movement based on what I've seen through media and my own personal experience with people involved in BLM type groups)
Once again, BALM is not an organisation, no matter how hard you insist that it is. It is the name of a movement, and it contains several smaller movements by several organisations. Get this through your skull.
BLM is absolutely a movement. It is a group. They are the ones who started this with the whole trayvon martin bullshit.
https://policy.m4bl.org/
BLM is absolutely a movement, but BLM is not a group or an organisation. The same way you couldn't say "THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT KILLED X MANY PEOPLE IN A RIOT".
No they don't. Why do you think they do this? They just want shit to be better for them personally. Nobody marching is doing jack shit to help the black community. They just want to 'fight oppression.'
Yes they do, what the fuck kind of response is that? That's literally the basic message of Black Lives Matter.
If they wanted to help black on black violence they would be actively working to help communities.
WOW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE PEOPLE CAN DO TWO THINGS AT ONCE!
WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE MODERN AMERICA HAS BEEN SHAPED BY SYSTEMATIC RACISM LIKE JIM CROW LAWS AND THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO SOMETHING TO HELP THE MOSTREATED COMMUNITIES OUT WITH THE PROVLEN THAT THE GOVERNMENT CREATED!
It's not just BLM though, marches in general are pretty fucking stupid for the most part.
Sorry you don't understand the importance of demonstration, lol.
BLM should be fixing homes and sending people to school and funding schools and helping people with their bills so that they can be empowered enough to fucking do something with their lives. Instead it focuses on cops, which is a minuscule problem. A black person is more likely to be hit by lightning than killed by a cop.
Again, this is the same retarded bullshit built on retarded bullshit premises that I've torn down like four times already; BLM is a movement, not an organisation. Many of the associated organisations absolutely do these types of things. That's not the point of BLM. And BLM does not exclusively focus on police brutality.
The rest of your post about poverty and blah blah blah, I agree with. I don't think they're just stupid niggers. But this isn't what BLM pushes to change. It isn't what they address or fight for. BLM is fueled by angst and nothing more. We know this is true because the amount of charity work/charity programs has increased by no significant amount since the movement started, and has not helped a single neighborhood or city. In other words, people are marching, but they aren't doing anything to actually help themselves. It's all just for attention and to feel like they were a part of something larger than themselves that actually meant something for once in their lives, which of course, they weren't.
Except it literally, explicitly is not. You are conflating Black Lives Matter with a fantasy fictional organisation that you have made up in your head.
