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Active shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas
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2017-10-04 at 8:14 AM UTCI saw this posted on r/conspiracy with nearly 2000 comments and almost 3500 upvotes.
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2017-10-04 at 8:19 AM UTCwho gives a fuck if it was a conspiracy or not
as long as 58 people were brutally murdered, i'm happy.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-10-04 at 8:23 AM UTCSuch edge.
Anyway, there are a lot of holes being poked in this claim rather quickly. Doesn't really make sense for a lot of reasons that things went down that way. -
2017-10-04 at 8:37 AM UTC
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2017-10-04 at 8:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock im adding more evidence: with the time and finances he expended in planning and carrying out his fuckfest…along with his resources…he could have converted his rifles into fully automatic…or acquired other rifles (7.62x54 caliber) that were even more easily converted into fully automatic…all of which would have been more effective than the POS 'bump-fire' modification. instead, he employed every legal means feasible with a virtual laundry-list of what anti-second-amendment communists are most focused on.
A fully automatic weapon wouldn't have been "more effective" you dullard. Nobody uses full auto fire to shoot anything they want to hit, they use it for covering fire, and even then, militaries have begun to favour 3 round bursts. What would have been more effective is to simply fire semi auto, and it would have been a more effective anti-gun ñarrative too since no mods would be needed.
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2017-10-04 at 8:48 AM UTC
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2017-10-04 at 8:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra that… would explain why he had ~20 rifles, at least
Yeah, but I dunno about him being undercover FBI. Wouldn't they have had backup nearby instead of taking 72 minutes from the time the shooting started to breach the room? There does seem to be some weird stuff about the guy that doesn't fit the official story. It definitely seems like he was selling weapons. He lived out of hotels a lot, disappeared for long amounts of time, had a lot of money with no real good explanation for how. IS has claimed responsibility multiple times now.
That and the FBI taking over and refusing to release information on the motive which they supposedly know, or even letting local police disclose it. But the deal itself seems weird. Some hotel room at a casino in Vegas? No backup right there? Maybe an arms deal gone wrong. Maybe the buyers just decided to kill the guy and take advantage of the huge crowd right there by using the weapons right away.
There were supposedly cameras set up inside and outside the room, but they're not releasing any footage and said those photos of the dead dude are legit and leaked. -
2017-10-04 at 8:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by Falco A fully automatic weapon wouldn't have been "more effective" you dullard. Nobody uses full auto fire to shoot anything they want to hit, they use it for covering fire, and even then, militaries have begun to favour 3 round bursts. What would have been more effective is to simply fire semi auto, and it would have been a more effective anti-gun ñarrative too since no mods would be needed.
in this case I'm thinking with full auto he could spray a lot more people with bullets before they realise what's going on and disperse; not necessarily more effective but I can see why he'd do it -
2017-10-04 at 9:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by LegalizeSpiritualDiscovery IS has claimed responsibility multiple times now.
Yeah, no. IS are mentally ill fucktards who claim credit for everything because they think it makes their peepee bigger.
I remember I had this guy in my address agency called Whitney. He wasn't a bad employee or anything. But he had a habit of handing in work and writing his name on it. So if one of the creatives wrote a tech document for example, he would take it, deliver it to the creative lead, and write "contribution by Whitney Lastname" on it. He did this every time he got a chance.
IS reminds me of him. Like, nobody believes you dude. Everyone knows you claim responsibility for any shit that goes down. -
2017-10-04 at 9:45 AM UTCFunny story, my office used to have an ISA server (Internet Security and Acceleration), somehow the boys in IT pranked him one day by scanning his ""contribution by Whitney Last name"" signature, configuring the ISA so that every Google page, including the homepage, served on the office network would load with "contribution by Whitney Lastname" signed at the top.
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2017-10-04 at 9:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra in this case I'm thinking with full auto he could spray a lot more people with bullets before they realise what's going on and disperse; not necessarily more effective but I can see why he'd do it
Yeah but if the objective is to spray and pray like a retard, bump fire would work just as well, so the effectiveness argument doesn't really work.
My point is that this decision seems to be made out of stupidity, not an agenda. If he wanted to further an agenda, the best way would just be to aim carefully and fire semi-automatic with a practiced trigger finger, and get a high score with that because it would show that unmodified, legal guns can be used to slaughter people -
2017-10-04 at 10:54 AM UTC
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2017-10-04 at 12:12 PM UTC
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2017-10-04 at 12:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by Falco A fully automatic weapon wouldn't have been "more effective" you dullard. Nobody uses full auto fire to shoot anything they want to hit, they use it for covering fire, and even then, militaries have begun to favour 3 round bursts. What would have been more effective is to simply fire semi auto, and it would have been a more effective anti-gun ñarrative too since no mods would be needed.
Post last edited by Falco at 2017-10-04T08:43:08.702853+00:00
every point you made = false.
you're an idiot. -
2017-10-04 at 12:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kolokol-1 I haven't, but that sounds pretty neat
I almost got one of those ghost gunner things. I wonder if you can make DIAS with those
it's is but takes some practice to make it properly. I don't know how long they last considering they're just home-made plastic...but for the do it yourself aspect it's interesting -
2017-10-04 at 12:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Falco A fully automatic weapon wouldn't have been "more effective" you dullard. Nobody uses full auto fire to shoot anything they want to hit, they use it for covering fire, and even then, militaries have begun to favour 3 round bursts. What would have been more effective is to simply fire semi auto, and it would have been a more effective anti-gun ñarrative too since no mods would be needed.
Post last edited by Falco at 2017-10-04T08:43:08.702853+00:00
Accuracy suffers with full auto but with people that tightly packed I think it would cause significantly more casualties -
2017-10-04 at 12:37 PM UTCthey were on reddit
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