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2017-07-09 at 5:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone I really don't care who reads my posts or not. I write them because it fulfills something in me, and anyone who wants to discuss on what I've written and read it, then more power to them… the people who don't, like you, then well… I don't really give a fuck. I'd rather you not read them. Please, Captain Faggot, Infinitycuck, Sploo… you faggots, please, please, please don't read my posts. Even §m£ÂgØL, don't post "didn't read" just don't read it.
I like to read Malice's posts, even if it's not something I am interested in, or find useful, I will at least skim over it, and pick out the good parts. If not for posts like that, then I may never have discovered things that have come to really help me in my life, or dawned on me… so I appreciate that he takes the time to write long, detailed posts like that.
That's funny you felt like addressing that you didn't read my observations. I also think it's funny, God knows you did read and whether if you did or didn't- had you have- you'd have been incredibly insulted or me addressing anything about you. I get an email for me asking after the pics you sent something "If you can't or don't want to, I'll understand if you just don't reply as that being a "No". Thanks, bye." or something to the effect. I asked for pics that may include yourself, and since youve been pretty fuckign paranoid to give me the pictures of us together with the baby, I just though "hmm… he could crop himself out and that would save him anxiety and worry over that, and I could have the pics of my son and shit…cool" and again, I would have understood if it was a problem, but if he didn't want to or whatever, that'd have been okay too… I gave up a long time ago ever having those pics of my child, but then… lo! I am accused of not being able to deal with my past. L.O. Fucking L. I have issues with my past, but I deal with them, and I certainly not paranoid enough to fucking not send pics of non-graphic nature containing their child with me when they had graphic, embarrassing pics already (no longer-I'm not a NARC. This fucker here screenshots incriminating evidence to hang on to, FYI… Remember, temp notes, PGP, whatever it may be is only as good as the person you're sending a message to. Important enough I felt the need to say it, not just for this user, but in general- it's hilarious though When I began taking screenshots of personal messages, but nothing… going to get anyone in trouble with the law just to PROVE when he'd deny saying something to me, just so I could show him when his scizo shit cropped up and his mind would alter a memory soooo fucking much.)
My mistake here was thinking he'd understand where I was coming from… He can't do that. He thinks the world is out to get him, or that hmm… me askign for something and clearly explaining it, then he flips it… and still… still fucking wants to make an issue over it… LOL and omg… I insult and disrespect him. I treat him like I treat everyone on here and try to be as unbiased as possible. He clearly said he doesn't respect me, even when we engaged in sexual things, so… who doesn't respect who here, really? Anyway… moving on…
§m£ÂgØL, Please, for fuck's sake, don't fucking read my posts. I will assume forever you don't, so you don't every need to tell me you didn't read them. Thx.
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2017-07-09 at 5:50 PM UTC"And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness." Quran 25:63
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2017-07-09 at 7:16 PM UTC
People with Asperger’s are also attracted to people with Asperger’s, so it’s hard to recognize that you are out of step with the general population you when your friends are also like you.
Story of my life. I've been reading a lot more about asperger's, and wow... it's like someone took a page from my life.
THere was mention of physical weakness, such as double jointed shit, and I've noticed, most kids in those special programs when I went to school, a lot had physical abnormalities, so I am wondering if they were spotted with these kids, since they were closely monitored for their physical abnormalities by medical professionals, that these "autistic" traits were spotted in them in higher numbers just because of that... I was a totally healthy kid, save for a high number of ear infections, and a proneness for getting dealthy ill to which I was treated at home by my father for his disgust for doctors and hospitals. That or, I'd be under the care of our family doctor who very much supported at home care with her kids, thus would write any script and knew my father was a good call for symptoms, treating, along with her own knowledge being a doctor and all... so I'd never leave the house or if I did, I'd be in her home, playing with her kids. I was stronger than her 2 son's. The youngest was 6 years older than me. The other was 8 years older. The youngest was clearly autistic.. his mother protected him from being diagnosed, since it's not cool to have these flaws recorded because they can fuck your life up in unforeseeable ways... and have people think very differently about you... even just my GAD diagnoses has effected me in terrible ways even the average person would fail to see... she always said, believing, being a Buddhist, in reincarnation, that he was an "old soul"... She told my father she hoped I'd marry him when we were older so he'd have someone to "take care of him" for the rest of his life, since she was old herself, having both kids later in life. He died a couple years ago, in 2015. I found out from a FB friend of his he died from a seizure in his sleep... to which I think is bullshit. He probably died taking a metric fuckton of Ambien and committing suicide or something... he was very depressed, he spent a lot of time in Shepard Pratt (this was his mom's colleagues... they new the drill on what NOT to diagnose him with...) going up, most socially awkward motherfucker Ive ever known, stuttered like a motherfucker, had zero social graces, and had no friend's except me and his brother until he got to college, and then well... he wasn't particularly popular and was blown off in the worst ways by girls he got up the courage to approach. Kinda sad to know he's dead. I remember talking to him after many year's gone... he was my ex's age, 32 at the time, and still hadn't managed to find a girl to fuck. It's likely he died a virgin. He had ust been 4 months with them getting rid of his colostomy bag to which definitely fucked up his "game" quite a bit in that department... It was sad seeing what had become of him, but he did manage to get a bachelor's degree in Comp Sci field before dying though... just never got to use it. -
2017-07-09 at 7:20 PM UTCThe great thing about being a philosophy major is that I don't have to take any math classes beyond general education. Fuck yeah, nigga.
Fuck math, I hate it!!!
The justifications for taking mathematics are absolutely false, there are critical flaws in the idea people have of its actual value to the vast majority. Sploo, you will like this. Translation: An attempt at rationalization and self-delusion to avoid accepting that I'm simply stupid and intellectually lazy.
#1) It does not teach you "how to think". This is related to the concept of the transfer of learning, which is part of the field of study of education. Unfortunately so few people are familiar with this term, ever come across it, when it's necessary to know in order to be able to locate the relevant research/papers. It's been studied for so long, it isn't a new concept at all. The answer is absolutely clear, learning in general is highly specific and does not transfer.
Not only that, but there are classes in the field of philosophy that essentially do specifically teach you this, and they're far far superior. They're the series of classes on logic.
#2) The vast majority of people do not use math beyond a basic level at their occupation. Easy research. IIRC the percentage who did was only around 5%, and of course that doesn't tell you just how advanced the math they used is. Many likely don't utilize any beyond fairly basic algebra.
#3) Retention: https://www.gwern.net/Spaced%20repetition
Long term retention is incredibly poor, especially if you never use it IRL. If you don't at least think about, or read about it.
If something you learned in university isn't a regular part of your life in some manner, if you never utilize it, it doesn't cross your mind, for the vast majority of people (Of course there's always variation in memory (e.g. me)).
There's a large amount of research on this and the results are clear and consistent, particularly with the learning style most students utilize, commonly referred to as "cramming".
#4) Genuine grasp as opposed to simple rote memorization and regurgitation.
Once again, researched. No, the vast majority of students/graduates do not have a genuine grasp of mathematics and are completely unable to apply it in a manner where it could actually be utilized IRL, demonstrate a fundamental understand, a grasp of the underlying logic.
/end list. There may have been something I missed, but these are the most important items. Do they genuinely understand it? Do they use it? Does it teach you "how to think"? Do they even remember it? Then what the fuck is the point? It's a genuine question. It's absolutely useless, an unbelievable waste of time and resources that contributes to the incredibly harmful effects of the current higher education system on society and individuals.
So, essentially, I genuinely believe that the vast majority of mathematics should not be a requirement for most people, even for general ed. Of course the obvious exception is the stem field, fields of study that specifically involve it and lead to careers that utilize it as a key part of the occupation. This is just obvious.
The vast majority of people (data available) do not enjoy mathematics or have an affinity for it. Completely unsurprising since it's so out of alignment with our evolutionary history. Most simply do not have the genetic/biological/neurological makeup, the personality and cognitive traits, cognitive style.
Now, as such a strong hyper-systemizer, an aspie, why wouldn't I be able to grasp it. No, I could, and I have, when needed; far above the level of of the average student (Nothing to brag about, not as if it's difficult), grasping it far faster. In elementary I would consistently score extremely high, the 99th percentile, on the yearly standardized test, the Stanford 9, and of course regular assignments and tests were no problem.
The answer is fairly simple: I don't feel any affinity toward it, I don't enjoy it all, have an interest in it, and I have no need for it, it has no practical value in my life. I find it incredibly tedious, repetitive, painfully, unbearably, boring. Most of the bullshit classes, mandatory classes that have nothing to do with your major, are already enough of a slog, but I find math to, by far, be the worst slog of all.
I literally never tried once I entered middle school. Although, amusingly, during one year we spent regular time in the computer class doing math assignments there and I managed to, by far, be at the top of the class. My best friend was in there too and he was smart as hell (Couldn't beat my performance in elementary, of course). Far more well rounded, knowledgeable/well read, functional, and driven, than I was. I was the really eccentric slacker type who followed his own independednt interests.
Once I entered high school I recall I genuinely, no exaggeration, refused to pay attention, read or study the book, or do any work at all, because I found it so excruciatingly dull and uninteresting. Of course I'm not going to know shit if I did this and never independently studied the subject, how on earth could I?
Now, one exception, at least, is statistics. This is an absolutely critical subject to study and fully grasp; as in have it memorized, read books multiple times until it's ingrained. It is absolutely necessary for logic, rational analysis, to be able to fully understand studies/papers/research, the data, spot any flaws, understand what's being conveyed, the methods and crucial results. -
2017-07-09 at 7:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人 "And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness." Quran 25:63
lulz, you do look like you could be a terrorist. IDK how they actually let you on planes and shit. Itd be funny if one day, because of shit like this, you'd actually have a problem... -
2017-07-09 at 7:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone Story of my life. I've been reading a lot more about asperger's, and wow… it's like someone took a page from my life.
THere was mention of physical weakness, such as double jointed shit, and I've noticed, most kids in those special programs when I went to school, a lot had physical abnormalities, so I am wondering if they were spotted with these kids, since they were closely monitored for their physical abnormalities by medical professionals, that these "autistic" traits were spotted in them in higher numbers just because of that… I was a totally healthy kid, save for a high number of ear infections, and a proneness for getting dealthy ill to which I was treated at home by my father for his disgust for doctors and hospitals. That or, I'd be under the care of our family doctor who very much supported at home care with her kids, thus would write any script and knew my father was a good call for symptoms, treating, along with her own knowledge being a doctor and all… so I'd never leave the house or if I did, I'd be in her home, playing with her kids. I was stronger than her 2 son's. The youngest was 6 years older than me. The other was 8 years older. The youngest was clearly autistic.. his mother protected him from being diagnosed, since it's not cool to have these flaws recorded because they can fuck your life up in unforeseeable ways… and have people think very differently about you… even just my GAD diagnoses has effected me in terrible ways even the average person would fail to see… she always said, believing, being a Buddhist, in reincarnation, that he was an "old soul"… She told my father she hoped I'd marry him when we were older so he'd have someone to "take care of him" for the rest of his life, since she was old herself, having both kids later in life. He died a couple years ago, in 2015. I found out from a FB friend of his he died from a seizure in his sleep… to which I think is bullshit. He probably died taking a metric fuckton of Ambien and committing suicide or something… he was very depressed, he spent a lot of time in Shepard Pratt (this was his mom's colleagues… they new the drill on what NOT to diagnose him with…) going up, most socially awkward motherfucker Ive ever known, stuttered like a motherfucker, had zero social graces, and had no friend's except me and his brother until he got to college, and then well… he wasn't particularly popular and was blown off in the worst ways by girls he got up the courage to approach. Kinda sad to know he's dead. I remember talking to him after many year's gone… he was my ex's age, 32 at the time, and still hadn't managed to find a girl to fuck. It's likely he died a virgin. He had ust been 4 months with them getting rid of his colostomy bag to which definitely fucked up his "game" quite a bit in that department… It was sad seeing what had become of him, but he did manage to get a bachelor's degree in Comp Sci field before dying though… just never got to use it.
Originally posted by Malice The great thing about being a philosophy major is that I don't have to take any math classes beyond general education. Fuck yeah, nigga.
Fuck math, I hate it!!!
The justifications for taking mathematics are absolutely false, there are critical flaws in the idea people have of its actual value to the vast majority. Sploo, you will like this. Translation: An attempt at rationalization and self-delusion to avoid accepting that I'm simply stupid and intellectually lazy.
#1) It does not teach you "how to think". This is related to the concept of the transfer of learning, which is part of the field of study of education. Unfortunately so few people are familiar with this term, ever come across it, when it's necessary to know in order to be able to locate the relevant research/papers. It's been studied for so long, it isn't a new concept at all. The answer is absolutely clear, learning in general is highly specific and does not transfer.
Not only that, but there are classes in the field of philosophy that essentially do specifically teach you this, and they're far far superior. They're the series of classes on logic.
#2) The vast majority of people do not use math beyond a basic level at their occupation. Easy research. IIRC the percentage who did was only around 5%, and of course that doesn't tell you just how advanced the math they used is. Many likely don't utilize any beyond fairly basic algebra.
#3) Retention: https://www.gwern.net/Spaced%20repetition
Long term retention is incredibly poor, especially if you never use it IRL. If you don't at least think about, or read about it.
If something you learned in university isn't a regular part of your life in some manner, if you never utilize it, it doesn't cross your mind, for the vast majority of people (Of course there's always variation in memory (e.g. me)).
There's a large amount of research on this and the results are clear and consistent, particularly with the learning style most students utilize, commonly referred to as "cramming".
#4) Genuine grasp as opposed to simple rote memorization and regurgitation.
Once again, researched. No, the vast majority of students/graduates do not have a genuine grasp of mathematics and are completely unable to apply it in a manner where it could actually be utilized IRL, demonstrate a fundamental understand, a grasp of the underlying logic.
/end list. There may have been something I missed, but these are the most important items. Do they genuinely understand it? Do they use it? Does it teach you "how to think"? Do they even remember it? Then what the fuck is the point? It's a genuine question. It's absolutely useless, an unbelievable waste of time and resources that contributes to the incredibly harmful effects of the current higher education system on society and individuals.
So, essentially, I genuinely believe that the vast majority of mathematics should not be a requirement for most people, even for general ed. Of course the obvious exception is the stem field, fields of study that specifically involve it and lead to careers that utilize it as a key part of the occupation. This is just obvious.
The vast majority of people (data available) do not enjoy mathematics or have an affinity for it. Completely unsurprising since it's so out of alignment with our evolutionary history. Most simply do not have the genetic/biological/neurological makeup, the personality and cognitive traits, cognitive style.
Now, as such a strong hyper-systemizer, an aspie, why wouldn't I be able to grasp it. No, I could, and I have, when needed; far above the level of of the average student (Nothing to brag about, not as if it's difficult), grasping it far faster. In elementary I would consistently score extremely high, the 99th percentile, on the yearly standardized test, the Stanford 9, and of course regular assignments and tests were no problem.
The answer is fairly simple: I don't feel any affinity toward it, I don't enjoy it all, have an interest in it, and I have no need for it, it has no practical value in my life. I find it incredibly tedious, repetitive, painfully, unbearably, boring. Most of the bullshit classes, mandatory classes that have nothing to do with your major, are already enough of a slog, but I find math to, by far, be the worst slog of all.
I literally never tried once I entered middle school. Although, amusingly, during one year we spent regular time in the computer class doing math assignments there and I managed to, by far, be at the top of the class. My best friend was in there too and he was smart as hell (Couldn't beat my performance in elementary, of course). Far more well rounded, knowledgeable/well read, functional, and driven, than I was. I was the really eccentric slacker type who followed his own independednt interests.
Once I entered high school I recall I genuinely, no exaggeration, refused to pay attention, read or study the book, or do any work at all, because I found it so excruciatingly dull and uninteresting. Of course I'm not going to know shit if I did this and never independently studied the subject, how on earth could I?
Now, one exception, at least, is statistics. This is an absolutely critical subject to study and fully grasp; as in have it memorized, read books multiple times until it's ingrained. It is absolutely necessary for logic, rational analysis, to be able to fully understand studies/papers/research, the data, spot any flaws, understand what's being conveyed, the methods and crucial results.
Guess how many of these I read.
That's right, zero. -
2017-07-09 at 7:46 PM UTCI can ball up the piece of paper after I am done, but for some reason, writing shit down, like in lectures when I was in school, or to remember to get shit, lists, recipes, anything I need to remember, this helps to do, even if I lose or throw away the paper and never see it again.
I've always been like this. I'm very big about taking detailed notes during lectures... copying shit written by a teacher on the board. It's served me well getting A's. Teachers always ask where my notes are though... I had a teacher who'd let us bring in one index card (what.. 5x6 or something in size)for notes for tests... and I'd cram so much shit on those cards, or sometimes nothing at all... he said this helped people memorize shit and actually LEARN it, like he wanted to see, rather than just regurgitate it and forget it right after, or after the class ended. It did help, most the time, I think. -
2017-07-09 at 7:47 PM UTCI think this is what I do when I post long meth posts... My memory can sometimes be very bad, hit or miss, a lot of times...
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2017-07-09 at 8:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone I can ball up the piece of paper after I am done, but for some reason, writing shit down, like in lectures when I was in school, or to remember to get shit, lists, recipes, anything I need to remember, this helps to do, even if I lose or throw away the paper and never see it again.
I've always been like this. I'm very big about taking detailed notes during lectures… copying shit written by a teacher on the board. It's served me well getting A's. Teachers always ask where my notes are though… I had a teacher who'd let us bring in one index card (what.. 5x6 or something in size)for notes for tests… and I'd cram so much shit on those cards, or sometimes nothing at all… he said this helped people memorize shit and actually LEARN it, like he wanted to see, rather than just regurgitate it and forget it right after, or after the class ended. It did help, most the time, I think.
Didn't even read this -
2017-07-09 at 8:10 PM UTCShut the fuck up, CF. Repeating lines like this is annoying as hell, there's nothing funny about it. The people who do this are completely uncreative and simply too stupid to think of anything novel and creative. It makes you look like an obnoxious idiot.
What exactly do you expect it to accomplish? That we're going to decide to stop making longer posts, begin shitposting and behaving like the majority of members, or even stop posting at all? It's never dissuaded us at all for years that people have complained and commented on the length, why the fuck would it now?
You're doing nothing but adding worthless posts, wasting your time and effort, and embarrassing yourself.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you "didn't read" this as well. Brilliant, you sure showed me. -
2017-07-09 at 8:17 PM UTC
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2017-07-09 at 8:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Shut the fuck up, CF. Repeating lines like this is annoying as hell, there's nothing funny about it. The people who do this are completely uncreative and simply too stupid to think of anything novel and creative. It makes you look like an obnoxious idiot.
What exactly do you expect it to accomplish? That we're going to decide to stop making longer posts, begin shitposting and behaving like the majority of members, or even stop posting at all? It's never dissuaded us at all for years that people have complained and commented on the length, why the fuck would it now?
You're doing nothing but adding worthless posts, wasting your time and effort, and embarrassing yourself.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you "didn't read" this as well. Brilliant, you sure showed me.
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2017-07-09 at 8:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone The youngest was clearly auti*stic.. his mother protected him from being diagnosed, since it's not cool to have these flaws recorded because they can fuck your life up in unforeseeable ways… and have people think very differently about you… even just my GAD diagnoses has effected me in terrible ways even the average person would fail to see…
He died a couple years ago, in 2015. I found out from a FB friend of his he died from a seizure in his sleep… to which I think is bullshit. He probably died taking a metric fuckton of Ambien and committing suicide or something… he was very depressed, he spent a lot of time in Shepard Pratt (this was his mom's colleagues… they new the drill on what NOT to diagnose him with…)
going up, most socially awkward motherfucker Ive ever known, stuttered like a motherfucker, had zero social graces, and had no friend's except me and his brother until he got to college, and then well… he wasn't particularly popular and was blown off in the worst ways by girls he got up the courage to approach. Kinda sad to know he's dead. I remember talking to him after many year's gone… he was my ex's age, 32 at the time, and still hadn't managed to find a girl to fuck. It's likely he died a virgin. He had ust been 4 months with them getting rid of his colostomy bag to which definitely fucked up his "game" quite a bit in that department… It was sad seeing what had become of him, but he did manage to get a bachelor's degree in Comp Sci field before dying though… just never got to use it.
Response. Long as hell, of course:
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2017-07-09 at 8:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人 Control your anger girl.
This is funny that you think it's anger.
I don't have any anger at you, or most people. I have observations. I look back and see shit that is totally distorted and make note of it, I express when I have been upset, and when I feel I was taken advantage of, and I believe this might bother you. Sorry it does. It's life. Have fun with it. We clearly disagree on a lot of things, and you clearly see things very distorted. If I wanted to insult you, I would, I'm not shy in that regard, if I expressed anger, I would do so.
You definitely could pass for middle eastern, and have handsome and well tanned individual, albeit, lightly. You're hair tends to curl when short. You've already threatened the president so much so you had the secret service investigate your posts years ago. You don't seem to be careful about what you say. It would be funny, though I do hope it doesn't happen. It wasn't anger, mearly an observation, but again with your paranoia, you think everyone is angry and out to get you... you project a lot I think.. your actions speak louder than words. -
2017-07-09 at 8:55 PM UTCOh, about the math, I forgot to mention something. I've seen it mentioned that there's a common trait among aspies where if a subject doesn't interest us we find it impossible to pay attention. Exactly how I feel about math and other subjects. Of course, when there's genuine interest, especially a high level, fascination, bam, full aspie powers unlocked and unleashed.
Also, I wasn't kidding about the difference Nardil made, beginning to really recover from depression for so long. I really am getting back my old self, my ability, being able to actually utilize my cognition, my strengths, more of the power my mind/brain has.
It's pretty undeniable right? There's an immense different in the post length I can churn out. Of course you guys won't consider this something positive, but it certainly is for university, of course the writing style and quality would be very different than casual unedited stream of consciousness posts on a message board.
This is kind of cool. I'd really like to see just how far I can go, develop myself. Especially once university starts, I'm 100% certain it's going to make an immense positive difference, although of course it's going to take time to adjust and for the effects to take place. -
2017-07-09 at 8:56 PM UTChai malive u need upboats 2 cents a bote a hunned upbotes 200 dollers fuk wit me
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2017-07-09 at 8:57 PM UTCgonna start takeing 10mg dexamp every other day
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2017-07-09 at 8:58 PM UTC
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2017-07-09 at 8:59 PM UTCWas §m£ÂgØL actually investigated by the secret service for threatening the president? When did this occur, when he was a teenager? That's fucking hilarious, I never heard this before.
I've also been told I look middle eastern, much more than §m£ÂgØL might. There was actually a time when I was profiled by someone on the BART (mass transit train system) in plain clothes. I don't know what their occupational title is, but terrorists are a concern here, especially on the BART.
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2017-07-09 at 8:59 PM UTCu mad u dnt got a upbote hussle