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anybody into astronomy?
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2017-07-03 at 11:20 PM UTCKinda related, I wanted to go see the eclipse in the states this summer, around oregon but the way things are looking I don't think i'll make it, watching the sun get blotted out in the day has gotta be cool to see. I think it's happening on Aug. 21st.
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2017-07-03 at 11:39 PM UTC
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2017-07-03 at 11:53 PM UTCThere's actually a pretty decent sized observatory not too far from where i am. And i guess i am into astronomy but not as much observationally wise. But i fucking love space and i am full of space trivia.
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2017-07-04 at 6:54 PM UTC
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2017-07-04 at 9:34 PM UTC
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2017-07-04 at 9:56 PM UTC
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2017-07-04 at 10:01 PM UTCIs there a conceivable center of space from which all infiniteness begins from?
Of course not. What a dumb question.
Is there anything to suggest that there isn't alien life elsewhere in space?
Of course not. What a dumb question. -
2017-07-04 at 10:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Is there a conceivable center of space from which all infiniteness begins from?
From our point of view we are at the center of the observable Universe. But that is true for any place in space. From Pluto's point of view Pluto is the center of the observable Universe.
The Universe definitely had a beginning though, but it's hard to tell where the Big Bang occurred. In fact, it's a lot weirder than that because asking where the center is, or where it began assumes it began in a point in space. But actually, space and everything we know came into existence in teh moment of the big bang. There was no space before the Big Bang.
Originally posted by mmQ Is there anything to suggest that there isn't alien life elsewhere in space?
We don't have evidence for alien life on other planets but the statistics seem to indicate it's almost impossible for it not to be somewhere in space beyond Earth. -
2017-07-04 at 10:15 PM UTC
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2017-07-04 at 10:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie From our point of view we are at the center of the observable Universe. But that is true for any place in space. From Pluto's point of view Pluto is the center of the observable Universe.
The Universe definitely had a beginning though, but it's hard to tell where the Big Bang occurred. In fact, it's a lot weirder than that because asking where the center is, or where it began assumes it began in a point in space. But actually, space and everything we know came into existence in teh moment of the big bang. There was no space before the Big Bang.
We don't have evidence for alien life on other planets but the statistics seem to indicate it's almost impossible for it not to be somewhere in space beyond Earth.
Yes. It began somewhere in space. I agree. And if it didn't, what was before space? How did the Big Bang create infinite space? I don't like it. -
2017-07-04 at 10:28 PM UTCI would LOVE to have a high powered telescope with high def video output so I could just chill back and get high and gaze at the cosmoes while listening to music like this
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2017-07-04 at 10:41 PM UTC
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2017-07-04 at 10:48 PM UTCSo there was just some other shit going on, then. Might not even be that big of a deal if you really think about it. I mean shit there be another big bang brewing up somewhere right now and then it just happens, and what? A new set of whatever the fuck it produces, and a new set of potentially intelligent beings that will wonder the same thing about their 'universe.'
Perhaps the universe just resets itself like that every few trillion years or however long, based on same larger principle or law that we can and cannot grasp. -
2017-07-04 at 10:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ So there was just some other shit going on, then. Might not even be that big of a deal if you really think about it. I mean shit there be another big bang brewing up somewhere right now and then it just happens, and what? A new set of whatever the fuck it produces, and a new set of potentially intelligent beings that will wonder the same thing about their 'universe.'
Perhaps the universe just resets itself like that every few trillion years or however long, based on same larger principle or law that we can and cannot grasp.
Maybe. Maybe there is just some inherent property of "nothingness" that makes it unstable. It makes more sense when you take into consideration the fact that the Universe is expanding. At this rate, in 100100 years the Universe will be so unfathomably large and stretched out, and mind you by this time we won't have any stars anymore eitehr, not even black holes as they evaporate due to Hawking radiation that such a low energy state will be reached that there is in effect. Nothing. And maybe, because nothing is fundamentally unstable some type of big bang event occurs again and we start all over. Who even knows? -
2017-07-04 at 10:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist i find it fascinating and would love to get into it more. i really should try and pick up some old binoculars or a small telescope to start looking at stars and shit. i do find it quite confusing how to find certain stars tho, as they all seem to look the fucking same. just bunches of stars everywhere, lol.
anybody else into this?
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So it's always fun to look through telescopes but a bitch to find the star you can partially with the naked eye into a telescope itself. they move fairly fast. you dont see the rotating sky much by eye because of the large field of view.. but you get a planet in view and that thing is moving fairly fast across the scope.
Also the best time for viewing is a clear cold night. The colder the better.. no distortion from heat. which means it gets uncomfortable in about a half hour. Your ears get cold so wear muffs or a hoody
If you want to view real time, get one with a star tracker that rotates with it. and mount it to your roof or patio. and run HDMI cables or RCA (which ever model you get) into the box that comes with the computer.
You can move it around with a joystick or jogger stick and view in the comfort of your home. but that's not old school.
Old School is if you have an acre of property away from light pollution (most in the mountain range where the air is thinner) and build your own Planetarium. people do it all the time. California Sierra or the Cascades or the Rockies for start. Even Hawaii on the main island.
A bunch of hikers should gear up and build on on Mt Everest and rig it to Internet. -
2017-07-04 at 11:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Maybe. Maybe there is just some inherent property of "nothingness" that makes it unstable. It makes more sense when you take into consideration the fact that the Universe is expanding. At this rate, in 100100 years the Universe will be so unfathomably large and stretched out, and mind you by this time we won't have any stars anymore eitehr, not even black holes as they evaporate due to Hawking radiation that such a low energy state will be reached that there is in effect. Nothing. And maybe, because nothing is fundamentally unstable some type of big bang event occurs again and we start all over. Who even knows?
As far as plausibility goes, this theory makes a lot of sense to me, if not perhaps the most sense.
Maybe a shitty analogy could be that of a spontaneously combusting fire, that with the right conditions bursts into flames, and then depending on the continued conditions, will either burn, and grow, for a long time, or start to immediately fizzle out, but either way, perhaps at some point, when the fire is nothing more than just a few last dying embers, the right conditions again present themselves to fan those embers into a new fire, etc. -
2017-07-04 at 11:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist unless there is a point where there is a solid brick wall preventing you from going any further then its infinite.
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It depends on the shape of the universe. The most likely theory is that it is finite and a closed shape, so there is no "escape", you're trapped on the surface of a hypersphere or similar shape. So there's no brick wall, if you keep going in one direction for long enough, and fast enough, you'll just end up back where you began. -
2017-07-04 at 11:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Yes. It began somewhere in space. I agree. And if it didn't, what was before space? How did the Big Bang create infinite space? I don't like it.
Scientifically, there is no "before" in any meaningful sense. But abandoning the fact that a singularity essentially breaks the laws of reason, many things could have been "before" the big bang.
One possibility is that we are simply part of either an infinite chain of universes that have come or gone, or are one of many multiverse, bubbles between bubbles that generate and expand and pop infinitely. But evidence of anything before the big bang is essentially erased by the nature of the big bang, so it's not really meaningful. -
2017-07-04 at 11:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon It depends on the shape of the universe. The most likely theory is that it is finite and a closed shape, so there is no "escape", you're trapped on the surface of a hypersphere or similar shape. So there's no brick wall, if you keep going in one direction for long enough, and fast enough, you'll just end up back where you began.
but just because you cant escape it doesn't mean there isn't more nothing beyond it. nothing at all ever. which is just space.
i like my theory that every atom in our universe is a universe. and that our universe is just one of trillions of trillions of atoms in another universe. so there are just trillions to the power of trillions of universes just nested all within other universes. like they just go on for ever.
kinda like when you stand between two mirrors and can see multiple reflections of yourself getting smaller each time but just keep reflecting each other forever if you could see that far.
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2017-07-04 at 11:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Hikikomori-Yume I would LOVE to have a high powered telescope with high def video output so I could just chill back and get high and gaze at the cosmoes while listening to music like this
That's cool music. Sounds like a Korg. they have more space sound patches than Roland or Yamaha or other brands.
Listen to spacey white noise music instead.. 10 hours worth on youtube. then you can fall asleep in a recliner while passing out from watching hours of space before going to bed. That's got to be healthy .. If you have sleep apnea, it's the healthiest way to sleep with a machine. because in a recliner on your back positioned upward helps open the airway. I sleep on my stomach because it opens the airway for me.. Sleeping on your back flat closes it off
anyways I digress.. watching stars with a high powered high resolution on a 70 inch monitor, from a recliner with softer sounding space music is good for anyone like me who wakes up every fucking 30 minutes and stares at a dark ceiling or your pillow.
