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2017-06-29 at 3:58 AM UTC6 points to muffindoor
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2017-06-29 at 12:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone So much bullshit. I can hear my botany/bio instructor now, who had a PhD in Plant Genetics face palming now. Plant hormones does not translate over to animal hormones, faggot. Just because they similarly structured does not mean they are gonna act the way, be responsive, or effect a human body the way legit hormones, animal hormones, would.
what happened ???? y they took it back ?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-06-29 at 12:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by hydromorphone So much bullshit. I can hear my botany/bio instructor now, who had a PhD in Plant Genetics face palming now. Plant hormones does not translate over to animal hormones, faggot. Just because they similarly structured does not mean they are gonna act the way, be responsive, or effect a human body the way legit hormones, animal hormones, would.
that.
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2017-06-29 at 12:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人 Except if you ever bothered to google it, like I did, you would see that soybeans do in fact raise estrogen levels. If you bothered to read, you'd see that I specifically used the word 'phytoestrogens.' You'd see that I said soybeans would replace endogenous estrogen with a 'weaker version' and that 'not all estrogenic drugs are the same.'
Post last edited by 霍比特人 at 2017-06-29T05:07:59.211656+00:00
that too, and you're still an idiot.
plant 'hormones' and phytochemicals aren't designed to function in an animal they way they do in a plant BUT that doesn't mean they don't have a physiological response within an animals system.
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2017-06-29 at 12:13 PM UTC
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2017-06-29 at 12:31 PM UTC
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2017-06-29 at 1:49 PM UTC
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2017-06-29 at 6:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock that too, and you're still an idiot.
plant 'hormones' and phytochemicals aren't designed to function in an animal they way they do in a plant BUT that doesn't mean they don't have a physiological response within an animals system.
you're both fucking retards.
Except, again, in this case they totally do. Pretty retarded to claim "BUT NOT ALWAYS" when I never claimed such and specifically referred to soy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/
Read the bit about SOY. If you come back at me with some shit about anything other than soy, which is what my claim was about, I'm going to dig up your entire ancestry and feed them to my dog one by one.Infants fed soy formula have circulating phytoestrogen concentrations of approximately 1000 ng/ml, 13,000–22,000 times higher than their own endogenous estrogen levels, 50–100 times higher than estradiol levels in pregnant women and 3000 times higher than estradiol levels at ovulation [249,14,295]. These blood levels are high enough to produce many of the physiological effects observed in research animals and human adults. In addition, they are at least a level of magnitude higher than those reported for other endocrine disruptors including BPA (Table 3) and the phthalates [50]. A recent prospective study in human infants observed that female infants on soy-based infant formulas exhibit estrogenized vaginal epithelium at times when their breast fed or cow based formula counterparts did not, suggesting estrogenic activity of the soy infant formula
Animal and human studies evaluating phytoestrogen effects on the adult hypothalamic–pituitary–gonadal (HPG) axis following adult exposures have been fairly consistent and reveal the potential for suppression. Multiple studies have documented the estrogenic activity of phytoestrogens in ovariectomized rodents [54,235,239] and, in humans, it is generally accepted that consumption of isoflavones-rich soy foods suppresses circulating estrogen and progesterone levels and can attenuate the preovulatory surge of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH)
And to go back to my initial postDon't listen to what you read about it increasing estrogen levels because not all estrogenic drugs are the same.
So are truly you this retarded or are you just trolling? Do you not see how it might help somebody with a river flowing from their vagina? Because if not let me help youattenuate the preovulatory surge of luteinizing hormone
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2017-06-29 at 7:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人 Except, again, in this case they totally do. Pretty retarded to claim "BUT NOT ALWAYS" when I never claimed such and specifically referred to soy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/
Read the bit about SOY. If you come back at me with some shit about anything other than soy, which is what my claim was about, I'm going to dig up your entire ancestry and feed them to my dog one by one.
And to go back to my initial post
So are truly you this retarded or are you just trolling? Do you not see how it might help somebody with a river flowing from their vagina? Because if not let me help you
I'm not debating your position on soy product consumption ...I know it's accurate.
add to the fact that a significant...majority even...portion of soy products in the human food supply are GM against glysophate. the soy products are saturated with the shit, then humans consume it. glysophate has also been identified as affecting human reproductive hormones. -
2017-06-29 at 10:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock I'm not debating your position on soy product consumption …I know it's accurate.
add to the fact that a significant…majority even…portion of soy products in the human food supply are GM against glysophate. the soy products are saturated with the shit, then humans consume it. glysophate has also been identified as affecting human reproductive hormones.
So if you admit I was right, why did you call me a retard?
I don't know why you even bother bringing up glyphosphate. I guess don't eat anything ever if you live in the US? It's silly to go around bringing external factors here that may or may not be relevant or significant enough to matter. I mean what if Kinkou only eats organic? -
2017-06-29 at 10:16 PM UTCIf I had a vagina, would you care?
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2017-06-29 at 10:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人 So if you admit I was right, why did you call me a retard?
I don't know why you even bother bringing up glyphosphate. I guess don't eat anything ever if you live in the US? It's silly to go around bringing external factors here that may or may not be relevant or significant enough to matter. I mean what if Kinkou only eats organic?
just because youre correct doesnt mean youre not a retard. because youre retarded. that is what makes you a retard.
read what i typed, retard. glysophate is a contributing factor in human physiological response to its consumption. i didnt bother to read specifics of the studies, but if they didnt study identical soybean plants (same seed/hybrid/variant) grown in non-glysophate environments as well as those exposed to glysophate...along with some other control...the study is flawed and makes your position moot.
kinkajedi is irrelevant considering he is the alt of some other retard poster on this site. -
2017-06-29 at 10:18 PM UTC
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2017-06-29 at 10:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by Scrawny II Whats wrong with Glyphosate?
Do you know how hard it is to invent a new potent chemical weapon? Glyphosate is harmless…
My idea for a CW -
N-Nitroso-N-methylurea
or
N-Nitrosodimethylamine
combined with some kinda BZ/Kolokodil-1 that trips you out along with a powerful convulsant and something to make any antidote not work.
NOT EASY IS IT!!!! WHY DONT YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER IF YOU KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT KILLING PPL!?
stfu and go cram the happy end of a chainsaw up your asshole, you fucking retard.
im not even going to reply to your post with any semblance of seriousness considering how utterly and thoroughly fucktarded it is. glysophate studies starting from about its initial development until about the late 90s or early 2000s were flawed due to interference from monsanto-related entities. glysophate is harmful to human physiology not only in its original form, but the various environmental-induced (sun...heat...TIME...various chemicals in the ground...etc) breakdown products as well as metabolites within the human body.
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2017-06-29 at 10:27 PM UTCso wait does this work again or no :o:o:o
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2017-06-29 at 10:27 PM UTClooks like it doesn't work
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2017-06-29 at 11:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock just because youre correct doesnt mean youre not a retard. because youre retarded. that is what makes you a retard.
read what i typed, retard. glysophate is a contributing factor in human physiological response to its consumption. i didnt bother to read specifics of the studies, but if they didnt study identical soybean plants (same seed/hybrid/variant) grown in non-glysophate environments as well as those exposed to glysophate…along with some other control…the study is flawed and makes your position moot.
kinkajedi is irrelevant considering he is the alt of some other retard poster on this site.
You didn't read the study, or even my quotes, but I'm the retarded one?
They didn't just straight up give people soybeans. That would be retarded. They isolated the isoflavones which were already known and well-accepted to exist in soybeans not grown in environments with glysophate present.
Here's another study proving that which you won't read
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2883528/
You're just grasping for straws here. You're out of your element Donny. -
2017-06-29 at 11:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by Scrawny II Lol but what if modifying the soybeans to be resistant to organophosphates is what makes them all fucked up?. I am all for glyphosate I think you should huff it daily (new meme?)
But GMO is sketchy, plants only need 3 things N P K and macros but it seems to me modifying one of the main nutrient mechanisms can have results much further down the road, that + all the additives and crap.
You don`t see cancer rates like this in Japan, Germany, high tech first world nations , just USA.
What are you talking about dude?
http://www.wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/data-cancer-frequency-country
Denmark, France, Australia, Belgium, Norway, USA, Ireland, S. Korea, Netherlands
Top 9 right there^
There's also HUMAN genetics to consider with cancer rates, as well as things like smoking and drinking. I know S. Korea has one of the highest rates of alcoholism and tobacco use in the world too but they're only #8.
You do propose an interesting idea but I mean, that's a big if. I'd like to see more information on that though. -
2017-06-29 at 11:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人 You didn't read the study, or even my quotes, but I'm the retarded one?
They didn't just straight up give people soybeans. That would be retarded. They isolated the isoflavones which were already known and well-accepted to exist in soybeans not grown in environments with glysophate present.
Here's another study proving that which you won't read
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2883528/
You're just grasping for straws here. You're out of your element Donny.
I'll read them and pick them apart later. I'm busy at the moment.
in the mean time...go look up how they 'isolate' things. yea. that. -
2017-06-29 at 11:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人 You didn't read the study, or even my quotes, but I'm the retarded one?
They didn't just straight up give people soybeans. That would be retarded. They isolated the isoflavones which were already known and well-accepted to exist in soybeans not grown in environments with glysophate present.
Here's another study proving that which you won't read
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2883528/
You're just grasping for straws here. You're out of your element Donny.
That's the only style of arguing he ever uses..if you disagree, he just assumes you are retarded and tells you to go read more about it because if you read more you'd obviously agree with him. That and just calling everyone nigger faggots and threatening to rape them. He's basically a fucking idiot and you're not going to get anywhere with him ever.
