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Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2024-03-09 at 3:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by Charles Ex Machina lol, doesnt understamd how debts work.
those missiles have long been writren off back in the 90s. or at least somewhere in the early 2000s. ukrainians are getting all the old stocks and even if they get the fresh ones those were probably procured pre-2020.
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2024-03-09 at 3:17 PM UTCThat's the only reason war exists, to deplete stock and manufacture new stock at ever-increasing costs, emptying out the tax coffers worldwide. Like filthy pigs with their dirty snouts buried in the feeding trough. Less than animals. Without morals. Mindless. Insatiable.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2024-03-09 at 5:54 PM UTC
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2024-03-09 at 5:54 PM UTC
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2024-03-09 at 8:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ That's the only reason war exists, to deplete stock and manufacture new stock at ever-increasing costs, emptying out the tax coffers worldwide. Like filthy pigs with their dirty snouts buried in the feeding trough. Less than animals. Without morals. Mindless. Insatiable.
Artillery shells are manufacture essentially the same as they've been since ww1, other than some have sophisticated guidance packages but regardless they're the exact same as the russians yet russians 152mm shells are less than $1000 each and the equivalent nato 155mm shell is $5,000 to $7,000 (depending on the source)
Reason?
Kikes in the industrial military corp-ocracyThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2024-03-09 at 8:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by Warcry https://www.politico.eu/article/france-finds-baltic-allies-in-its-spat-with-germany-over-ukraine-aid-sikorski-nato-macron-troops-war/
You're an idiot. No one is clicking your idiot links -
2024-03-10 at 2:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas I'm not seeing much about it so the original poster may have misidentified.
there was apparently an S-300 complex destroyed nearby -
https://www.rt.com/russia/593990-iskander-destroys-s300-russian/
but the videos show diagonal fire, the S-300 fires vertical, I don't think they're from the same incident.
OK, seeing a lot of reports that this was not an S-300 and was actually a 🅱atriot complex being transported in convoy but can't really tell the difference from the video considering they're not deployed. interesting that the Russian MoD would (intentionally?) misidentify if that's the case though.
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2024-03-10 at 2:18 AM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas OK, seeing a lot of reports that this was not an S-300 and was actually a 🅱atriot complex being transported in convoy but can't really tell the difference from the video considering they're not deployed. interesting that the Russian MoD would (intentionally?) misidentify if that's the case though.
stopped on an open road...clustered together...zero attempt at signature reduction...
whatever it was they deserved to get it destroyed -
2024-03-10 at 2:20 AM UTC
not all that convincing -
2024-03-10 at 2:21 AM UTC
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2024-03-10 at 2:26 AM UTC
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2024-03-10 at 2:30 AM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas yeah I think this was after they shot their load in the initial video, then tried to move on to another position
then its not a US managed patriot system.
one of the first lessons in the training syllabus of such 'high value' units is to do pretty much the exact opposite of what was shown in that convoy. -
2024-03-10 at 2:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock then its not a US managed patriot system.
one of the first lessons in the training syllabus of such 'high value' units is to do pretty much the exact opposite of what was shown in that convoy.
I don't think they're able to adhere to standard doctrine. from what I've seen from Ukrainian sources they've stripped the units down to make them as mobile as possible so that they can use them for ambushes.
there's no longer enough anti-air capability to use them as echeloned, static or area defence, the best they can hope for is to hide them, then wait for the su-34s to approach and flick on the radars, engage and run. -
2024-03-10 at 2:43 AM UTCIIRC the glide bombs have a range of about 50km when launched from fighters, much longer if they're dropped from high-altitude bombers so patriots are only effective against the former
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2024-03-10 at 2:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas I don't think they're able to adhere to standard doctrine. from what I've seen from Ukrainian sources they've stripped the units down to make them as mobile as possible so that they can use them for ambushes.
there's no longer enough anti-air capability to use them as echeloned, static or area defence, the best they can hope for is to hide them, then wait for the su-34s to approach and flick on the radars, engage and run.
no...im talking about basic zero-tech defensive countermeasures...
spread out so a single weapon cant damage more than one vehicle....camo tarps...place barriers to recon, like in woods or behind some sort of sherlter. NOT in the middle of a fucking highway while STOPPED in a combat zone...some sort of security/patrol perimeter... -
2024-03-10 at 3:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock Stifle yourself, Edith
To be even a figment of some over-paid engineers imagination, those systems would have to had designated cash money in someone's account…originating from the US taxpayer.
Written off still means it cost someone something.
Your idiot logic means to say because that giant skyscraper in NYC was just sold for $1 that it was old debt.
You're an idiot
this "US tax payer" thing only exist as superstistion amongst ignant "americans". the US is a deficit country, that is to say each quarter, each half, each fist-cal year, every day the money that it spends outstrips the money it earns in the form of taxes collected and other means .... by as much as a trillion dollar every 3-4 months.
anyone with basic understanding of finance and economy would know that this is tentamount to going on a shopping spree with a self-issued, self-signed, and self-approved credit card from a self-owned bank. and the only reason people keep taking your self-signed, self-approved credit card is because people still need the USD to trade, but not for long.
to exclaim dis sheit or dat sheit was spent using "your" "tax dollar" is like a Sambo bitching and moaning to his hoe how he has to work hard to put foods on the table when 3/5th of the foods that he puts on the table come from foodstamps, courtesy of White men's generousity.
muh dick. -
2024-03-10 at 3:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by Charles Ex Machina
this "US tax payer" thing only exist as superstistion amongst ignant "americans". the US is a deficit country, that is to say each quarter, each half, each fist-cal year, every day the money that it spends outstrips the money it earns in the form of taxes collected and other means …. by as much as a trillion dollar every 3-4 months.
anyone with basic understanding of finance and economy would know that this is tentamount to going on a shopping spree with a self-issued, self-signed, and self-approved credit card from a self-owned bank. and the only reason people keep taking your self-signed, self-approved credit card is because people still need the USD to trade, but not for long.
to exclaim dis sheit or dat sheit was spent using "your" "tax dollar" is like a Sambo bitching and moaning to his hoe how he has to work hard to put foods on the table when 3/5th of the foods that he puts on the table come from foodstamps, courtesy of White men's generousity.
muh dick.
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2024-03-10 at 3:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by Number13 Old stock needs to be replaced and at ever increasing price
all those "stocks" are consumables perishable goods. just like the food you eat will need to replaced with foods that cost more by the day, the same it is with these national consumables.
in the US, with or without conflict the order for these
armaments were politically determined at each and every budgeting season.
that means each fiscal year and each budgeting season a certain amount of these bombs and other armaments need to be produced by contract. one of the most obvious sign of this practise is the US ammo and military gear surplus market where excess and unused military orders are sold to civilians to keep the momentum in the arms production facilities.
of course big guns and bombs like patriots and m777s cant be sold to civilians because the US have a trannified version of the 2A, so these large and heavy weapons are given to other countries as "foreign aid".
the bombs that went to ukraine came from the money that was approved by the congress decades ago, paid to the USMIC many many years ago, manufactured within the last decade, and were marked down for disposal long before the SMO started.
the only difference this conflict produced is the hightened need for new stocks, which the USMIC have no means to cope. -
2024-03-10 at 3:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock Artillery shells are manufacture essentially the same as they've been since ww1, other than some have sophisticated guidance packages but regardless they're the exact same as the russians yet russians 152mm shells are less than $1000 each and the equivalent nato 155mm shell is $5,000 to $7,000 (depending on the source)
Reason?
Kikes in the industrial military corp-ocracy
REASON: economic illiteracy.
find out how much does one make flippin' burgers in the US per hour and how much it pays to do the same in russia.
go ahead, find out. -
2024-03-10 at 3:46 AM UTC
