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2024-01-28 at 4:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny ok srsly, its not the US-UK combatants that matter, its what kind of asssets and ordnances that the US and UK could bring to bear against these strong and masculine houthies and hezzes.
its already established the US has the most sophisticated ordnance on the planet -
2024-01-28 at 6:24 AM UTC
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2024-01-28 at 6:50 AM UTC
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2024-01-28 at 7:21 AM UTC"what are inside these boxes?"
"depleted uranium rounds"
"but theres nothing inside!"
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2024-01-28 at 7:22 AM UTC
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2024-01-28 at 12:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas can't into hypersonics
can't into anti-missile system that competes with the S-300 from 50 years ago
Hypersonics have been around for decades and it's just now that the media is making a big deal about them.
Besides..the us has the x37...they don't need hypersonics. And they have hypersonics in the works anyway. And the hypersonics the Russians claim are hypersonics...aren't.
The US has plenty of air-defense missiles that demonstrably work at effectiveness levels high enough to do their jobs.
When was the last time the US lost a capital ship to a drone...
When was the last time a US carrier broke down and had to be towed back to port... -
2024-01-28 at 12:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny theres no certain way to know if these are true or not,
what if theyre well kept secrets.
Hypersonics are nothing more than current media hype. The same way the FOXBAT was the ultimate weapon and one squadron was going to wipe out the entire air capacity of NATO...so the military-industrial complex had to spend quadrillions of dollars to boost defense against the super weapon.
then someone shoplifted one and the west discovered they were WW2-tech shit boxes that were literally barely able to stay in the air. -
2024-01-28 at 1:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock Hypersonics are nothing more than current media hype. The same way the FOXBAT was the ultimate weapon and one squadron was going to wipe out the entire air capacity of NATO…so the military-industrial complex had to spend quadrillions of dollars to boost defense against the super weapon.
then someone shoplifted one and the west discovered they were WW2-tech shit boxes that were literally barely able to stay in the air.
well, that reminds me of the fabble of that boy who cried Fox.
so it wasnt a real fox the first time round. -
2024-01-28 at 1:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock Hypersonics have been around for decades and it's just now that the media is making a big deal about them.
Besides..the us has the x37…they don't need hypersonics. And they have hypersonics in the works anyway. And the hypersonics the Russians claim are hypersonics…aren't.
you can play with definitions if you want since all missiles that fly in high enough can be deemed 'hypersonic', but Russia has hypersonic anti-shipping missiles, aeroballistic missiles and glide vehicles in the field today, and the US only has failed test platforms. hell, India and Iran have working hypersonics.
Originally posted by infinityshock The US has plenty of air-defense missiles that demonstrably work at effectiveness levels high enough to do their jobs.
lol
Originally posted by infinityshock When was the last time the US lost a capital ship to a drone…
When was the last time a US carrier broke down and had to be towed back to port…
when was the last time the US tried to use its navy on someone who could do more than throw sticks at it?
coincidentally, we might actually see considering the US has been COMPLETELY silent about the exchange in the Bab al-Mandab strait the other day where Yemenis claimed hits on both container ships and the US destroyers attempting to protect them (the container ships were confirmed, nothing about the navy). -
2024-01-28 at 1:17 PM UTCpoint isn't even whether they're effective or not, the US just isn't leading edge anymore since the MIC was turned into a massive grift machine manned by diversity hires
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2024-01-28 at 1:21 PM UTC
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2024-01-28 at 1:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas you can play with definitions if you want since all missiles that fly in high enough can be deemed 'hypersonic', but Russia has hypersonic anti-shipping missiles, aeroballistic missiles and glide vehicles in the field today, and the US only has failed test platforms. hell, India and Iran have working hypersonics.
lol
when was the last time the US tried to use its navy on someone who could do more than throw sticks at it?
coincidentally, we might actually see considering the US has been COMPLETELY silent about the exchange in the Bab al-Mandab strait the other day where Yemenis claimed hits on both container ships and the US destroyers attempting to protect them (the container ships were confirmed, nothing about the navy).
The missiles the Russians claim are hypersonics haven't been demonstrated to actually be hypersonics when used. The x37 can be over any point on the planet and drop an expensive care package into someone's lap.
The US hasn't needed to...their ASMs are demonstrably effective enough to get the job done. India actually has one of the only demonstrable hypersonics...ironically developed with Russia.
Not seeing the point of that video. And...pantsirs keep dying for ridiculous reasons.
Like you mean when the us navy wiped out essentially the entire Iranian navy...
There are very few navy's the US navy isn't at least equal to. -
2024-01-28 at 1:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas point isn't even whether they're effective or not, the US just isn't leading edge anymore since the MIC was turned into a massive grift machine manned by diversity hires
No...the MIC is only interested in profiteering. F35...zumwalt...holy shit, every ship coming out of the yards doesn't work...and the prices they charge for weapons is ridiculous. The profiteering is obvious when foreign weapons sales are used as evidence. One country will pay literally double compared to another buyer for a missile (hellfire is one I saw) ...not counting training/spare parts/consultation/etc -
2024-01-28 at 1:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock The missiles the Russians claim are hypersonics haven't been demonstrated to actually be hypersonics when used. The x37 can be over any point on the planet and drop an expensive care package into someone's lap.
point of the kinzhals and zircons, the aeroballistic ones, is essentially that they fly so fast that they generate a plasma envelope, but cannot actually hit their targets at max speed because they'd burn up due to friction in the atmosphere at ground level. they boost to directly above the target, brake and spam decoys then hammer down - to a radar it looks like they teleport directly above the target; when they (kinzhals) were used in Ukraine they didn't even show up on radar until after they'd hit.
avangard HSGVs, yeah fair enough they're extremely secretive, have only publicly shown the deployment vehicle being launched, not the glide bombs themselves, but they've been delivered to the strategic missile forces.
Originally posted by infinityshock Not seeing the point of that video. And…pantsirs keep dying for ridiculous reasons.
"PATRIOT not so tough after being stabbed with DAGGER"
PANTSIRs are relatively cheap and effective, specifically designed to create uncertainty and intercept cheap weapons like drones. of course some are going to get rekt in a serious conflict. only confirmed footage I've seen of one being killed was in Syria though, an israeli anti-radiation missile/drone hitting it while it was reloading.
Originally posted by infinityshock Like you mean when the us navy wiped out essentially the entire Iranian navy…
There are very few navy's the US navy isn't at least equal to.
I don't disagree, US navy is still #1, especially the submarine component. point is they haven't actually had to face anything they couldn't outrange and outgun with a massive advantage in a long time, so it's not really a fair comparison.
the MOSKVA in particular though is a weird case, I don't think it was the standard Ukrainian NEPTUNE missiles that killed it considering the range, defenses etc. Russia's not said a lot about it but there have been a lot of rumours that it was NATO NSM missiles or limpet mines. would make sense considering not just the value of the ship, but until a month or so later when land stations were set up in the Crimea, the MOSKVA had the only long-range X-band radar in the theatre. -
2024-01-28 at 9:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock Hypersonics are nothing more than current media hype. The same way the FOXBAT was the ultimate weapon and one squadron was going to wipe out the entire air capacity of NATO…so the military-industrial complex had to spend quadrillions of dollars to boost defense against the super weapon.
then someone shoplifted one and the west discovered they were WW2-tech shit boxes that were literally barely able to stay in the air.
https://www.amazon.com/Mig-Pilot-Final-Escape-Belenko/dp/0380538687
I read that in the fall of 1980 at Ft. Stewart. I've been laughing at the Russian boogieman ever since. -
2024-01-29 at 2:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker https://www.amazon.com/Mig-Pilot-Final-Escape-Belenko/dp/0380538687
I read that in the fall of 1980 at Ft. Stewart. I've been laughing at the Russian boogieman ever since.
in any country with free healthcare you'd already have been institutionalized.
in mental institutions. -
2024-01-29 at 7:54 AM UTChttps://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/australia-must-consider-bringing-back-conscription-as-allout-war-with-russia-looms-expert-says/news-story/b1ced960b821027163b05b15ad47e5e6
https://archive.vn/dcpKPAustralia must seriously consider reintroducing conscription to boost its troop numbers in the face of a looming “all-out war” with Russia, a defence analyst says.
Rapidly rising global tensions in eastern Europe and the Middle East threaten to “drag Australia into an orbit of an open confrontation”, Dr Alexey Muraviev, Associate Professor of National Security and Strategic Studies at Curtin University, said.
He added it may be “time for Australia to consider another uncomfortable subject — the return of national service”.
“Back in 1972, Labor under Gough Whitlam abolished the national service in peacetime, even though it could still be reactivated in times of war,” Dr Muraviev wrote in an op-ed for Sky News Australia on Sunday.
“Fifty-two years later, we should be asking ourselves and Labor under Anthony Albanese if we should consider reintroducing a form of national service to increase a pool of trained reserves while we still have time. Or should we wait to be dragged into a major conflict, and deal with the consequences?”
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2024-01-29 at 12:40 PM UTChow is conscription "democratic"The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2024-01-29 at 1:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas point of the kinzhals and zircons, the aeroballistic ones, is essentially that they fly so fast that they generate a plasma envelope, but cannot actually hit their targets at max speed because they'd burn up due to friction in the atmosphere at ground level. they boost to directly above the target, brake and spam decoys then hammer down - to a radar it looks like they teleport directly above the target; when they (kinzhals) were used in Ukraine they didn't even show up on radar until after they'd hit.
avangard HSGVs, yeah fair enough they're extremely secretive, have only publicly shown the deployment vehicle being launched, not the glide bombs themselves, but they've been delivered to the strategic missile forces.
"PATRIOT not so tough after being stabbed with DAGGER"
PANTSIRs are relatively cheap and effective, specifically designed to create uncertainty and intercept cheap weapons like drones. of course some are going to get rekt in a serious conflict. only confirmed footage I've seen of one being killed was in Syria though, an israeli anti-radiation missile/drone hitting it while it was reloading.
I don't disagree, US navy is still #1, especially the submarine component. point is they haven't actually had to face anything they couldn't outrange and outgun with a massive advantage in a long time, so it's not really a fair comparison.
the MOSKVA in particular though is a weird case, I don't think it was the standard Ukrainian NEPTUNE missiles that killed it considering the range, defenses etc. Russia's not said a lot about it but there have been a lot of rumours that it was NATO NSM missiles or limpet mines. would make sense considering not just the value of the ship, but until a month or so later when land stations were set up in the Crimea, the MOSKVA had the only long-range X-band radar in the theatre.
Au contraire mon ami...hypersonics are intended to hit their targets at the highest possible speed since the energy imparted at impact is exponential compared to the energy carried in the warhead. The ones that do the fancy maneuvering aren't true hypersonics...they just fly really fast. Technically a Tomahawk could be set into a flight profile at damn-the-torpedoes-full-speed-ahead speed and become supersonic.
Yes it's war...every system is going to get casualties. The point is they're all fair game and one being taken out isn't a measure of its effectiveness, capabilities, or function.
The US sub fleet has always been better than any other on the planet...since US Civil war 1. Incompetent sailors is what is going to be the downfall. When I was in if anyone in any job wasn't top notch they were literally fired and sent to do bullshit like clean, cook, or something they couldn't fuck up. Nowadays they're all fuckups. Hell...they burned down an entire brand new $3billion aircraft carrier due to complete incompetence. That'd never have happened on any ship I knew of. And they keep crashing ships into other ships...which is unacceptable. The moskva crew was probably gaffing around or drunk or incompetent and their attacker just happened to have better luck -
2024-01-29 at 1:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker https://www.amazon.com/Mig-Pilot-Final-Escape-Belenko/dp/0380538687
I read that in the fall of 1980 at Ft. Stewart. I've been laughing at the Russian boogieman ever since.
It's the ploy the US uses to keep the arms manufacturing market so well funded. And why all these kikes at the top of the sales chart are raking in a fortune due to their corruption and nepotism. Case in point...the kike David Packouz who was only arrested and jailed (with a paltry sentence) to protect the bigger fish in the food chain that were also getting a cut. For his cooperation at taking the heat when he was released from prison they gave him a cushy book deal that sold 2 books to 1 hebe for millions. Not suspicious at all.
