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2023-10-09 at 12:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ There's only one entity who has fully demonstrated he created it all, and that's God. Nobody else has the knowledge or the wisdom right now to pull it off.
You say “right now” as if that term means anything. Right now is the same as any other time, infinitely into the past and the future. If it’s not possible now but possible later, that means it’s possible everywhere forever. I’m not gonna keep trying to explain infinity to you when you’re clearly not capable of understanding it. Just go light another bowl, old man -
2023-10-09 at 12:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox You say “right now” as if that term means anything. Right now is the same as any other time, infinitely into the past and the future. If it’s not possible now but possible later, that means it’s possible everywhere forever. I’m not gonna keep trying to explain infinity to you when you’re clearly not capable of understanding it. Just go light another bowl, old man
No, the passage of time is real. Even the bible says a day to God is like a thousand years for us. It's still a day for God. The passage of time exists, but it occurs in the past, the present, and the future simultaneously. That doesn't mean the past can't be different than the present and the present can't be different than the future. It can, and it does. -
2023-10-09 at 12:35 AM UTCWhat you call the passage of time is just a byproduct of the tendency of entropy to increase in a closed system. For the sake of this argument it doesn’t matter at all, it’s completely arbitrary. My point is if you think something can happen in the future, then you pick a direction in space and a direction in time and travel some arbitrarily large distance on either or both axes, and eventually you will find that thing happening. At least, in the model of an infinite universe that I’m describing. So that’s what I mean when I say “right now” doesn’t matter
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2023-10-09 at 1:18 AM UTCI think it's fair to say science explains religious phenomenae. Lets not get ahead of ourselves folx
Claiming you understand everything there is to know about Religion or Science is foolist. Nobody can know everything no matter how much they learn
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2023-10-09 at 2:13 AM UTCI once knew a guru.
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2023-10-09 at 2:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by totse2118 Nobody can know everything no matter how much they learn
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2023-10-09 at 2:33 AM UTCI don't disagree per se, but... like... it's hard for me to vibe with god(s) in a religious capacity for many (obvious) reasons (such as "no religion would have me"). Doesn't stop me from practicing my own warped and confused little faith, but me 'n' capital-G God have an awkward relationship.
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2023-10-09 at 3 AM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai I don't disagree per se, but… like… it's hard for me to vibe with god(s) in a religious capacity for many (obvious) reasons (such as "no religion would have me"). Doesn't stop me from practicing my own warped and confused little faith, but me 'n' capital-G God have an awkward relationship.
Same here. I go to church and give alms and all that good stuff, but also engage in unscrupulous activities that directly interfere with my religious beliefs.
Well, I guess that just makes me an average modern christian -
2023-10-09 at 3:05 AM UTCi propose we have a new weekend game on NIS called Sinner-Free-Sunday, no BS just wholesomes like sheep eggs and triangles and coattails
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2023-10-09 at 1:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox So if every religion is wrong, how do we know god? How do we foster a relationship with god if no one teaches us how to do that? How do we earn his favor? By being “good”? Who decides what’s good and bad? By belief? Belief in what, since we can’t trust religions?
Organized religion is bullshit and is not necessary or useful in developing a personal relationship with whatever you understand to be “God” - first of all, organized religion lacks any cogency in its appeal to others. It’s basically saying, “I know my religion has no intrinsic merits, so I must resort to force or fear tactics to scare people into behaving and conducting themselves according to my rules”.
Second, if yours is a theistic religion, it’s an admission that your deity is weak. Obviously if it had the power to compel belief, it would do so. If it had to outsource the job to you, that’s unimpressive.
Which takes us to a further point: the use of force by a believer shows that the believer understands the first two points. The believer knows they have no cogent means of persuasion and that their deity is weak or nonexistent. This insecurity compels the imposition of religion by force. They certainly don’t dare to trust in their deity to get the job done!
And of course, none of these believers think it would be right to force them into a different faith. Thus their position is hypocritical in the extreme.
In my opinion, no religion is legitimate they’re all personally created. A package-deal religion is all about someone else’s spirituality, not yours. To be genuine, it is YOUR spirituality that should lead to your personal religion, we’re all born with an innate sense of right and wrong.
Organized religions aren’t the answer.
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2023-10-09 at 1:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Haxxor Organized religion is bullshit and is not necessary or useful in developing a personal relationship with whatever you understand to be “God”…
Organized religions aren’t the answer.
Right so what is the answer? How do you develop a relationship with god? What even is god in that kind of system? Is god a metaphor or is he real? Does he reply back to you when you talk to him? Does he offer eternal life? If so, how do you earn his favor? -
2023-10-09 at 1:55 PM UTCHe will give you super powers if you sacrifice enough virgins
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2023-10-09 at 2:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Right so what is the answer? How do you develop a relationship with god? What even is god in that kind of system? Is god a metaphor or is he real? Does he reply back to you when you talk to him? Does he offer eternal life? If so, how do you earn his favor?
There’s no favor to earn.
If you obsess over whether you are making the right decision, you are basically assuming that the universe will reward you for one thing and punish you for another.
The universe has no fixed agenda. Once you make any decision, it works around that decision. There is no right or wrong, only a series of possibilities that shift with each thought, feeling, and action that you experience. It’s cause and effect, something your actions set into motion.
1. Be Impeccable With Your Word
Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.
2. Don't Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering.
3. Don't Make Assumptions
Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.
4. Always Do Your Best
Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgment, self-abuse and regret.
Religion is for people who're afraid of going to hell. Spirituality is for those who've already been there.…the peace I feel in my soul is God’s reply to me, it’s free and for everyone. -
2023-10-09 at 3:42 PM UTCLmao now I know you’re for sure trolling, these are just points from that one self help book.
I know I haven’t done anything wrong, and I’m overall a good person, I pretty much check all 4 of ur boxes, yet I still feel absolutely nothing from “god”, not peace or grace or anything. -
2023-10-09 at 4:02 PM UTCI remember the one time I received the Holy Spirit in church …
I was in early 20s….I was a new fresh Christian walking around everywhere with my Bible ..
Literally everywhere…
For some reason I got sick and I could not hold down any fluids ..
I’d drink water and it would just come up ..
Still went to church that Sunday …
Pastor did his message…choir was singing ..and idk what happened..
It was like a bolt of electricity hit me and I got to running !!
Man I was running ..so fast all around..I was crying uncontrollably..
I had 0 control over my body .. none .. this was not my free will
I collapsed on the floor ..the put a sheet over me and took me to the back ..
And I was so so thirsty ..it was a like a thirst I never had before..
And I drank water continuously..and none of it came up ..
None a drop …
I will never forget that 💓The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-10-09 at 4:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Lmao now I know you’re for sure trolling, these are just points from that one self help book.
I know I haven’t done anything wrong, and I’m overall a good person, I pretty much check all 4 of ur boxes, yet I still feel absolutely nothing from “god”, not peace or grace or anything.
How am I “trolling”? I’m answering your questions….obviously some of what I’ve posted came from books that I’ve read or things I’ve seen online , I don’t read “self help books” actually I prefer True Crime, or pretty much anything crime related….the depravity of human nature fascinates me for some reason. I also have a deep interest in science…life sciences and physical sciences….. books on how profiling and forensics work, things like that.
I’ve read different versions of the Bible cover to cover, as well as commentaries and books that explain how the Bible is interpreted by different authors.
You’re free to believe, or not believe, whatever you choose…no skin off my back.
You do you…sorry you can’t find any peace or happiness…..I’d say “I’ll pray for you” but the reality is prayer doesn’t change God in anyway…it only changes the person doing the praying. Also I don’t really pray…. I meditate and look for meaning in circumstances some choose to believe are coincidences.
I personally find great comfort in knowing my God.
I hope you find yoursThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-10-09 at 4:40 PM UTCPeople are free to believe what they want ..you can’t really convince someone there’s a God if they don’t want to believe there’s one …
I just share my experiences ..and the things I’ve personally experienced..I know there’s a God and you couldn’t convince me otherwise..The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-10-09 at 4:44 PM UTCMy bad I thought you were trolling cuz you literally just start quoting the Four Agreements lol. Like you came up with it or something. Doesn’t seem all that different from just quoting dogma from a religion. But I didn’t intend to criticize, if that works for you it’s all good dude.
But yeah I was asking all this shit because I really did wonder if you had some kind of insight I could glean, but I’ve pretty much gone thru a lot of the same reading that you did, plus a lot of life experience and reading the bible and other religious texts, going to church etc but I’ve just come to different conclusions than you. I’m no more closer to god than when I started.
My journey continues! ☮️ ✌️The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-10-09 at 4:48 PM UTC
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2023-10-09 at 4:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox I know I haven’t done anything wrong, and I’m overall a good person, I pretty much check all 4 of ur boxes,
Are you though? Not living for God means you're living for something else which in the eyes of religion is wrong in itself. Being a good person means nothing if you don't BELIEVE and convert others you must SAVE SOULS
how many SOULS have you SAVED
what will they write about you in the book of life and death "well he was a good man and checked four boxes, yup great job being alive"
is that really all there is to life folx?!
Originally posted by CandyRein People are free to believe what they want ..you can’t really convince someone there’s a God if they don’t want to believe there’s one …
I disagree. Evidence cannot be easily ignored when there are obvious facts pointing toward a logical conclusion it's just that there is no way to prove such grand theories of reality and dimensions and the entire universe with our lack of understanding of science when we barely understand our own planet how can we say we know all the secrets of the spirit realm and God
that's why religious people are scholars they are studying history and science and trying to make sense along with their philosophy on life and everything that makes up reality. Science and religion were once and still are to many people considered in the same realm
something something trianglism is real
