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2023-07-28 at 4:48 AM UTC
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2023-07-28 at 4:56 AM UTC"MODERATION IS KEY! IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PURE ANARCHY OR PURE TOTALITARIANISM! CENTRISM IS THE SOLUTION!"
Fuck you, this is my line.
It's so good. Normally.
But no, it's not the solution. That's what we're living in, and it just creates factions of people who - at the same time, living in the same society - think we need totalitarianism because society is too anarchic, and that we need pure anarchy because society is too totalitarian. It's not a "best of both worlds" situation, it's a "susceptible to twice as many sources of decay" situation. And worse, the constant conflict between those factions creates countless distractions for unscrupulous types to take advantage of.
The average person gets assfucked by fascists and commies vying for power, *and* the sociopaths who already have it. It is maybe literally the worst possible outcome. -
2023-07-28 at 5:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by Pete Green Are you having a Troon Regret?
Not being funny, it's common
Nah, I don't think I'm capable of regretting being a troon. At least not in this lifetime - if this life ends and it turns out to have been a regrettable decision in some other meta-life/afterlife context, we'll see. But from where I'm sitting? I've made the right call with the information available to me, and those who disagree with me only do so because they do not have the same information as me (ie, my life). If they'd lived as me, they'd have done the same and would feel the same way about it that I do.
(And if they want to disagree with that, and insist they could live as me, in my life, with my body, my brain, and all my life experiences, and they could still 'decide not to be trans'... I'd ask them to reflect on why they think that is, and what it would imply about being trans. If they would have made different decisions based on the same information, if different inputs would have gotten a different output from them, what is it about us that differs? In what way? Did God just make my soul more prone to sin? If it's a 'soul' thing, how do we know God didn't allow Satan to throw a woman's soul into a male body - just to fuck with it, to see if it'd curse God for the misfortune? After how he played Job, I wouldn't put it past him.) -
2023-07-28 at 5:18 AM UTC(PS: You're goddamn right I'm cursing God if God pulled that shit. Am I supposed to love unconditionally? Not even withhold my love from my tormenter? If that's the case, don't worry. I still unconditionally love God, even as I curse Him. Just like he unconditionally loves me as he torments me. Match made in Hell. Fuck that guy.)
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2023-07-28 at 7:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai Nah, I don't think I'm capable of regretting being a troon. At least not in this lifetime - if this life ends and it turns out to have been a regrettable decision in some other meta-life/afterlife context, we'll see. But from where I'm sitting? I've made the right call with the information available to me, and those who disagree with me only do so because they do not have the same information as me (ie, my life). If they'd lived as me, they'd have done the same and would feel the same way about it that I do.
(And if they want to disagree with that, and insist they could live as me, in my life, with my body, my brain, and all my life experiences, and they could still 'decide not to be trans'… I'd ask them to reflect on why they think that is, and what it would imply about being trans. If they would have made different decisions based on the same information, if different inputs would have gotten a different output from them, what is it about us that differs? In what way? Did God just make my soul more prone to sin? If it's a 'soul' thing, how do we know God didn't allow Satan to throw a woman's soul into a male body - just to fuck with it, to see if it'd curse God for the misfortune? After how he played Job, I wouldn't put it past him.)
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2023-07-28 at 11:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Your information base has been hopelessly compromised
Maybe.
Or I've seen a thing or two you haven't, got a couple memories you don't. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong - really, it's just that there's no reason not to believe as I believe.One of three situations is true:
1) There's nothing more to life than meets the eye, all I've done by being trans is give up on 'winning' at the game that's playing us - spreading genes for the sake of Life. The win condition is for Life - the player - not me, and my existence is reduced to that of a pawn on Life's board. Real nihilism hours.
2) Some spiritual element to life exists, but the truth and my beliefs have little to do with one another (ie "God is mad at me" and variations thereof).
3) I have access to information you don't, I have witnessed something you have not, and I've drawn the correct conclusions from the experiences I've had - I'm right, or close enough to being right that I won't be bothered by the ways in which I was wrong.
1 seems pretty likely, but 'real nihilism hours' basically equates to carte blanche when it comes to how one should live and it doesn't matter if I'm wrong because there is literally no benefit to being right. I also think it's worth noting that if 1 is the case, trying to encourage self-doubt in this matter would be particularly sinister - it could only be born of a desire to see me suffer in place of the happiness I presently have, when in such a world surely the only source of meaning and purpose would be our struggle to bring about the cessation of suffering.
2 is possible, maybe even likely, but is equally likely to be the case for anyone with any spiritual belief of any sort, including for people who currently have faith in the belief that 'turns out to be correct'. Certainty does not exist in these matters - there is only zealous faith. If you want to make some kind of Reddit atheist argument against my being a troon, more power to you. I don't care.
Ultimately I'm either right or I'm not, or I'm in a world where being right/wrong in this context is meaningless. The possibility of the latter being true isn't worth consideration, and the former comes down to whether I'd choose to bet against myself in the face of ~equal odds. Obviously I'm going to trust my lying eyes and believe that I have more information than my detractors. There's something inherently ignoble about the idea of subordinating the narrative explaining the facts of my existence to someone else's perception of things - that's just some cuck shit, on god. -
2023-07-29 at 12:07 AM UTCI read the newspaper.
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2023-07-29 at 12:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai Maybe.
Or I've seen a thing or two you haven't, got a couple memories you don't. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong - really, it's just that there's no reason not to believe as I believe.
Klaus Barbie probably saw a few things I haven't. I've probably seen a few things he never did. You have no meaningful point. -
2023-07-29 at 2:53 AM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Klaus Barbie probably saw a few things I haven't. I've probably seen a few things he never did. You have no meaningful point.
All I'm saying it's silly of you to believe that you have a better grasp of what's true of me than I do - your grasp of the truth in relation to me is obviously going to be weaker than my own - this is a given. ie your insight is meaningless. You're right that what I wrote wasn't particularly meaningful, but arbitrarily saying my 'information has been compromised' is equally meaningless. Which was... the point. Yeah. -
2023-07-29 at 4:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai All I'm saying it's silly of you to believe that you have a better grasp of what's true of me than I do - your grasp of the truth in relation to me is obviously going to be weaker than my own - this is a given. ie your insight is meaningless. You're right that what I wrote wasn't particularly meaningful, but arbitrarily saying my 'information has been compromised' is equally meaningless. Which was… the point. Yeah.
There is no such thing as what's true for me vs what's true for you. There is only one truth. -
2023-07-29 at 8:13 AM UTC
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2023-07-29 at 8:30 AM UTC
would write a bit but I need more electricityThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-07-30 at 12:47 AM UTC
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2023-07-30 at 3:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker As to that, you belive it's "true of you" that you're not a man so…
I believe it's true of me that I am biologically male, but I also believe it's true that there's more to life than the biologic (and if the biologic is all that is, then it's real nihilism hours - nothing matters, and it's retarded to care what anyone does to/with themselves). We can have a meaningless argument about how my beliefs about the non-biological aspects of life are wrong, if you want. Which angle do you wanna pick? Reddit atheist or competing spiritual view? -
2023-07-30 at 3:27 AM UTCMight be more accurate to say that I believe that "biologically, I am male in far more ways than not" - for instance, it might be accurate to say that endocrinologically I am more female than male at this point. But, broad picture, what I said earlier works. Biologically male.
Trust the Science™ and call me retarded for believing in unscientific shit if you want, but you're the guy who was eating horse dewormer 2 years ago.
(Which, to be fair, showed some promise early on. Enough to warrant further investigation. Not enough to go to the farm supply store and start eating horse paste.) -
2023-07-30 at 4:25 AM UTCYour a man with literally no balls period full stop.
