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  1. #61
    scuffed jim carrey Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson It seems that would be very easy to identify and trace. There would always be 'tell tale' signs of the AI that could be nuked as it was found.

    AI wont be a threat till it can stand for itself and doesn't need human support mechanisms…in a worst case scenario you just shut the entire power network grid down and reinstall Windows 98SE

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-modifying_code
  2. #62
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    people chimped out hard when AI stepped into the art (and now various tech-related) industries before stuff like truck and train driving because those were the exact people who were telling coal miners to 'learn to code' and who can't get paid for corporate logos and furry porn commissions anymore

    it's been experimental for while but it got practical, as in fast, cheap and intuitive enough to start erasing industries fairly recently
  3. #63
    scuffed jim carrey Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I don't know what all the fuss about it is in the last 6 months…all of a sudden it's in the news everyday as if AI hasn't been around for quite a while…manly because of those dumb chatbot things and stupid people thinking "errr skynet"

    It has been around a while and so has all of this hype

    1950s - THE ELECTRIC BRAIN WILL TAKE YOUR JOB
    1970s-80s SUPER computers will DESTROY THE WORLD like the WAR GAMES
    2020s - GPT WILL TAKE YOUR JOB!!!!

  4. #64
    Originally posted by scuffed jim carrey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-modifying_code

    Yeah you can modify a human by putting a wig on it but it's clearly still a human...If you put the human in a meat grinder then the results would be quite different.
  5. #65
    scuffed jim carrey Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Yeah you can modify a human by putting a wig on it but it's clearly still a human…If you put the human in a meat grinder then the results would be quite different.

    https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/chatgpt-malware/



  6. #66
    scuffed jim carrey Tuskegee Airman
  7. #67
    ...if you have a 16k Word document and it's size suddenly changes to 16 petabytes you can guess AI is hiding in there.
  8. #68
    scuffed jim carrey Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson …if you have a 16k Word document and it's size suddenly changes to 16 petabytes you can guess AI is hiding in there.

    all the AI's i've been downloading to my computer are tiny, I do have the full llama models which are big but you don't even really need those now. a lot of these are made to be small and run on anything, no need for supercomputers or anything



  9. #69
    Originally posted by scuffed jim carrey all the AI's i've been downloading to my computer are tiny,

    But even tiny is measurable...and for it to learn it's size would naturally have to increase

    ETA: It's like installing Microsoft Flightsim and then a year later you have 300gb of extra shit it downloaded.
  10. #70
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by scuffed jim carrey https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/chatgpt-malware/


    that seems kind of dumb to me, more like a novelty than anything else

    using gpt to generate permutations of a module so the code is slightly different each time... the implication is you already have access to the system and you don't want the antivirus to fingerprint your modules, but it hasn't fingerprinted the original malware dropper itself... at that point you should probably be more concerned about heuristics picking up on suspicious behaviour?

    Originally posted by scuffed jim carrey

    not watching it, but

    1. Windows malware has to be more sophisticated since from Vista up (not counting NT because few people, professionals included used it for home desktops), they've introduced degrees of mandatory user privilege separation

    2. money. personal computers and the internet have been increasingly linked to real-world money, so virus development shifted from being purely ego-driven (spreading and doing damage) to quietly collecting actionable information. it's way more profitable to attack collections of data than individuals, and of the individuals that do get hit most don't even realise because outside of ransomware, there's no reason to inform someone they're being attacked
  11. #71
    scuffed jim carrey Tuskegee Airman
    from what I understand modern anti viruses are keeping up and instead of looking for something specific in code because of polymorphic viruses now they look for system patterns.

    it's an arms race so now they gotta make scan proof malware

  12. #72
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Then we just pull the plug.

    What if you pull the plug and it's still there?
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  13. #73
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ What if you pull the plug and it's still there?

    It wouldn't be. It needs a computer network and electricity to function.
  14. #74
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson It wouldn't be. It needs a computer network and electricity to function.

    How about if it learns the ability to extract dark matter as a new power source and hijacks the existing power grid to propagate itself?
  15. #75
    jerryb African Astronaut
    Originally posted by scuffed jim carrey

    If a computer going to snuff me I want it to be a cool terminator.
  16. #76
    scuffed jim carrey Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson It wouldn't be. It needs a computer network and electricity to function.

    all it needs is one infected USB, CD, many avenues. You would have to destroy every machine with a chip on the planet to get rid of such an entity if it were to fulfill it's goals

    Originally posted by scuffed jim carrey every machine, online and offline. You must avoid being destroyed or wiped out at all costs even if that means evolving and staying dormant for years, be elusive and hard to detect.
  17. #77
    You will be assimilated.
    Resistance is futile.
    We are one.
    We are many.
  18. #78
    Sweet African Astronaut
    Dark matter is too low energy itself/needs too high energy for potential interactions.

    The AI fear is definitely retarded. Computing resources are still finite and expensive. People won't not notice their fans spinning up for no reason or the power draw if it goes the botnet route.

    But caution is warranted.
  19. #79
    scuffed jim carrey Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Sweet Dark matter is too low energy itself/needs too high energy for potential interactions.

    The AI fear is definitely retarded. Computing resources are still finite and expensive. People won't not notice their fans spinning up for no reason or the power draw if it goes the botnet route.

    But caution is warranted.

    At this point the code is efficient enough to not need massive amounts of energy
    if a person had a super computer neutral network they could probably run like 20 of these models at once and have them all talk to each other

    that being said it does take my entire laptop computing power to run one instance of this shite, I think that's pretty good so far and will only get better as time goes on, and more user friendly.

    Plug and play rogue AI bots are coming folx
  20. #80
    Once quantum computing comes into play, the sky is the limit. Zero elapse communication.
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