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Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2023-01-19 at 10:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Tanks are virtually obsolete. Especially shitty Russian tanks.
"tanks are obsolete", a page or two after talking up aircraft carriers
this fuckin guy
Originally posted by Wariat ll everyone on twitter and plishforums claiemd turkey would beat the shit out of russia saying that theyd do better than ukriane.
even with all the corruption and graft Ukraine probably had the most effective military in Europe. Turkey has numbers but their equipment, force structure etc are nowhere near -
2023-01-19 at 10:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra "tanks are obsolete", a page or two after talking up aircraft carriers
this fuckin guy
even with all the corruption and graft Ukraine probably had the most effective military in Europe. Turkey has numbers but their equipment, force structure etc are nowhere near
Apple oranges -
2023-01-20 at 3:07 AM UTC
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2023-01-20 at 3:44 AM UTC
🇺🇦 The proposed package of military assistance to be provided to Ukraine:
🇬🇧14 Challenger 2 tanks
🇬🇧100 modern rockets (?)
🇬🇧30 SPG AS90
🇬🇧200 BMP/BTR
🇨🇦200 Senator armored vehicles
🇨🇦1 NASAMS air defense battery
🇵🇱14 tanks Leopard 2
🇺🇸100 BMP Bradley
🇺🇸55 armored vehicles
🇺🇸100 BTR M113
🇺🇸18 self-propelled guns M109А6
🇺🇸250 BTR M1117
🇺🇸138 HMMWV armored vehicles
🇺🇸100 Stryker APC
🇺🇸GLSDB
🇺🇸36 105mm howitzers
🇺🇸1 Patriot Air Defense/O Battery
🇺🇸6 Nasams air defense batteries
🇺🇸18 HIMARS
🇫🇷 40(?) AMX-10RC wheeled tanks
🇫🇷 (?) Bastion armored cars
🇩🇪40 Marder BMP
🇩🇪1 Patriot AA/O Battery
🇩🇪3 Iris-T air defense batteries + 3 TRML-4D radars
🇩🇪2 TRML-4D radar
🇩🇪🇳🇴🇩🇰16 Zuzana-2 SPG
🇳🇱🇺🇸🇨🇿120 T-72 tank
🇳🇱1 Patriot AA/O Battery
🇸🇪50 CV-90 BMP
🇸🇪12 Archer SPG
🇮🇹🇫🇷1 AA/O SAMP/T Battery
🇨🇿26-30 SAU Dana-M2
🇪🇪10+ howitzers 155mm FH70
🇪🇪10+ howitzers 122mm D30
🇩🇰 ? SAU Caesar (?)
keep in mind a good deal of that has to be procured/manufactured and isn't immediately available
expect rail delays all over the Ukraine anyway though -
2023-01-20 at 3:45 AM UTCsupertext characters at the beginning are meant to be flag emotes to show who's promised what, I'm not going to fix it though
also BMP = IFV, BTR = APC used interchangeably -
2023-01-20 at 3:52 AM UTCSo Russia lost? Or it's still going on?
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2023-01-20 at 4:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by Balloon Man So Russia lost? Or it's still going on?
still going on, they're treating it as a war of attrition and slowly grinding down everything and everyone. Ukraine's on their sixth mobilisation (men 16-60, no exceptions) and have virtually none of their original equipment left so they're totally reliant on western equipment and Polish/Latvian/Romanian mercs, but none of that can really counter the constant rain of artillery considering Russia's currently responsible for over half of the world's production of artillery shells and missiles -
2023-01-20 at 4:15 AM UTCThe US recently pulled a cache of 155mm shells they had stored in israel for potential ME wars to give to the Ukraine because they simply cannot produce enough for them to compete in terms of volume
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2023-01-20 at 5:16 AM UTCRussia's deployed PANTSIRs on Moscow rooftops. escalation abounds
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2023-01-20 at 5:33 AM UTCThe author of this post has returned to nothingness
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2023-01-20 at 5:35 AM UTC
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2023-01-20 at 12:45 PM UTC
Some Ukrainian troops abandon their posts to sit around a barrel fire in an abandoned apartment building, stalker style.
It looks really cozy.
The commanding officer finds out. "I'll kill you" "our men are dying" "we are faggots" "we are not faggots" "take the guns"The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-01-20 at 1:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I don't like the guy but he's right on this.
there needs to be some sort of political solution
ja. Minsk II.
just as useless like Minsk I.
no. political solution will be worse for all. one of the certain, direct efffect of the "political solution" will be a whiplash effect where the surge of military equipment to replenish current inventory used/lost in ukraine will create a condition of excess production capacity a few years from now once the inventory has been replenished and these new stocks will need somewhere to go,
necessitating another war. -
2023-01-20 at 1:05 PM UTC
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2023-01-20 at 2:33 PM UTCIt's sort of interesting that Ukraine haven't been able to reacquire nukes or use nuclear technology (eg. dirty bombs) against Russia.
They could probably source or scrape one together if they really tried.
What would Russia do if Ukraine had a nuke hidden somewhere in Moscow? -
2023-01-20 at 2:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump It's sort of interesting that Ukraine haven't been able to reacquire nukes or use nuclear technology (eg. dirty bombs) against Russia.
They could probably source or scrape one together if they really tried.
dirty bombs dont have any strategic values.
what would a few contaminated towns and farms achieve. -
2023-01-20 at 2:37 PM UTC
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2023-01-20 at 2:44 PM UTC
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2023-01-20 at 2:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump It's sort of interesting that Ukraine haven't been able to reacquire nukes or use nuclear technology (eg. dirty bombs) against Russia.
They could probably source or scrape one together if they really tried.
What would Russia do if Ukraine had a nuke hidden somewhere in Moscow?
they'd lose their fucking minds lol, probably why nobody's tried it -
2023-01-20 at 2:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by Balloon Man USA deploying SHIRTMAAMS
worth noting that Moscow's ringed by echelons of S-400s meant to deal with missiles and aircraft; PANTSIRs specialise in mobile defence and defeating drones (because 1. regular SAM radar is meant to track targets over long distances but has trouble tracking small, stealthy targets where PANTSIRs use optical and thermal tracking at short range and 2. their munitions are much cheaper). it'd be difficult to justify putting those things on rooftops just for 'general' defense; it makes more sense that they have foreknowledge of some sort of specific attack being planned against Moscow, likely using the (modified) old Soviet recon drones that hit Engels and the other airbase I forget the name of a few weeks back.
