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Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2022-05-16 at 10 AM UTC
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2022-05-16 at 10:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist You’re terminally a Nazi, soooo….
Originally posted by Wariat there is nothing right about invading other countries or killing civilians or labeling them as nazis
Techno and Putin both think that you just need to call someone a Nazi and then that justifies any sick shit they want to do to you.
When someone calls you a Nazi it means they want to hurt you. -
2022-05-16 at 10:08 AM UTCThis war is a complete meat grinder and Putler is running out of troops. There are reports of 40 year olds getting conscription papers (even in WW1 and 2 the U.K. never conscripted people over 35) and even better reports of soldiers from the fake 'republics' in the Donbas trying to retreat back into russia and being refused entry by border guards!
And here's a lovely clip of Ukrainian troops at the russian border behind Kharkiv. They have pushed the orcs back to their own country, while the orcs in the Donbas are trying to flee but aren't allowed to.
twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1525967632524091394 -
2022-05-16 at 10:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump Techno and Putin both think that you just need to call someone a Nazi and then that justifies any sick shit they want to do to you.
When someone calls you a Nazi it means they want to hurt you.
it's a term used to manipulate idiots who can't think outside the categories of 'good guys' and 'bad guys' -
2022-05-16 at 10:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by Wariat This war is a complete meat grinder and Putler is running out of troops. There are reports of 40 year olds getting conscription papers (even in WW1 and 2 the U.K. never conscripted people over 35) and even better reports of soldiers from the fake 'republics' in the Donbas trying to retreat back into russia and being refused entry by border guards!
And here's a lovely clip of Ukrainian troops at the russian border behind Kharkiv. They have pushed the orcs back to their own country, while the orcs in the Donbas are trying to flee but aren't allowed to.
twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1525967632524091394
LOL
yeah Moscow's gonna fall soon, set your stopwatch
meanwhile, in reality:
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2022-05-16 at 10:12 AM UTC
Originally posted by Wariat This war is a complete meat grinder and Putler is running out of troops. There are reports of 40 year olds getting conscription papers (even in WW1 and 2 the U.K. never conscripted people over 35) and even better reports of soldiers from the fake 'republics' in the Donbas trying to retreat back into russia and being refused entry by border guards!
And here's a lovely clip of Ukrainian troops at the russian border behind Kharkiv. They have pushed the orcs back to their own country, while the orcs in the Donbas are trying to flee but aren't allowed to.
twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1525967632524091394
What happened is that the Russians needed meat for their war, so they "mobilised" the male population of the Donbass. The Donbass guys were all conscripted, most of them don't want to fight, but the Russian are using them as cannon fodder for all the hard fighting that goes on, since losses of Donbass troops don't appear in Russian army losses statistics and won't upset civilians back home. -
2022-05-16 at 10:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump What happened is that the Russians needed meat for their war, so they "mobilised" the male population of the Donbass. The Donbass guys were all conscripted, most of them don't want to fight, but the Russian are using them as cannon fodder for all the hard fighting that goes on, since losses of Donbass troops don't appear in Russian army losses statistics and won't upset civilians back home.
got anything to support conscription? I've seen a lot of interviews with them, morale seems pretty high and nobody's mentioned it -
2022-05-16 at 10:44 AM UTChey aldra and star trek, apparently this is the polish shitposter:
https://www.truenorthradionetwork.com/criminal-history-of-investor-puts-brakes-on-new-hockey-team-at-nla/
https://www.zklepy.pl/cyrk-na-kolkach-odjechal-w-sina-dal-koniec-dzialalnosci-opole-hk/ -
2022-05-16 at 10:45 AM UTCaldra fact is they are going back and losing territory and originally threatened ukraine with a 40 mile convoy lol that dissipated quick didnt it?
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2022-05-16 at 10:53 AM UTC
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2022-05-16 at 10:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra you shouldn't present an opinion as a fact
the goal of the operation was never to capture territory outside of the LDNR
So you are saying that if Zelensky had fled to Poland and Kyiv appeared like it could be taken without a bloodbath, the Russians wouldn't have gone on in and taken it? -
2022-05-16 at 10:56 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra you shouldn't present an opinion as a fact
the goal of the operation was never to capture territory outside of the LDNR
everything including maps and troop buildups dont support your conclusion. every military expert in the world must be wrong and russia just out of the blue sent long military convoys deep into ukrainian territory for it to sit there or be destroyed? and at one time surrounded kiev? -
2022-05-16 at 10:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump So you are saying that if Zelensky had fled to Poland and Kyiv appeared like it could be taken without a bloodbath, the Russians wouldn't have gone on in and taken it?
I dunno, probably not though. It'd be a massive net negative for them to try and rehabilitate the country; it'd tank their own economy even without considering complicating relations with other neighbours. -
2022-05-16 at 11 AM UTCthats why they had it surrounded at one point and were sending convoys toward it?
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2022-05-16 at 11:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by Wariat thats why they had it surrounded at one point and were sending convoys toward it?
look into maneuvre warfare; the goal there was to pin down Western forces so that they couldn't reinforce the theatres in the East (ie. Mariupol and the Donbass Cauldron). Now that both nooses are effectively closed it doesn't matter what the Western forces do. -
2022-05-16 at 11:07 AM UTCthe goal was imperialism as putin himself even said it that he doesnt feel ukraine has the right to exist nor is an independent state from russia so yes the goal was to take kiev in four days and they failed.
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2022-05-16 at 11:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I dunno, probably not though. It'd be a massive net negative for them to try and rehabilitate the country; it'd tank their own economy even without considering complicating relations with other neighbours.
You cannot possibly believe that Putin wouldn't take Kyiv if he thought he could take it at reasonable cost. -
2022-05-16 at 11:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump You cannot possibly believe that Putin wouldn't take Kyiv if he thought he could take it at reasonable cost.
that's what I mean, there is no reasonable cost even if he were able to take it easily.
outside of protecting the Donbass, the goal is to push back against NATO - trying to take the whole Ukraine would weaken their strategic position, no matter how little resistance they faced -
2022-05-16 at 11:12 AM UTCthere is no benefit to russia to support sucvh a large operation and all the losses they sustained just for the donbbas region or to support some separatists. your logic makes no sense they basically went to plan b or c by now and you claim thats their plan the whole time.
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2022-05-16 at 11:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra outside of protecting the Donbass, the goal is to push back against NATO - trying to take the whole Ukraine would weaken their strategic position, no matter how little resistance they faced
This is a continuation of the logic we used to predict that the war wouldn't happen.
Manoeuver warfare involves encirclement, distraction and deception. It has never involved opening and then abandoning an entire front as a feint.