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Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2022-03-02 at 2:36 AM UTCThe Russians are committing war crimes left and right and using their state sponsored media propaganda network to manipulate the right wing populace of the English speaking world.
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2022-03-02 at 2:37 AM UTCnice bait no deal
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2022-03-02 at 2:52 AM UTCI realized that zelensky has to stay in power and Putin suffered some serious bay of pigs style group think. He didn't read the room and now zelensky has to stay in power. No way a puppet would last more than 10 minutes and Russia can't occupy Ukraine. It's going to wear on the troops, at no point will they be greeted as liberators.
The optics are just horrible and the cost is so much higher for Russia than Ukraine. Like I see why he did it but he picked a really weird time. Literally waiting a month or two would be better, I'm sure he had his reasons but he's obviously more isolated than he has been for a while and went all meth and maps in the bunker
At this point federalization would be viewed by ukranians as balkanization and framed in the media as an attempt to make the country a vassle (which is the best case scenario for russia)but either way, there is a point where the objectives stop being worth it, and the possibility of bearing the brunt of the cost only to lose down the line is an embarrassment which is the worst thing in the world for a Russian.
Putin is thinking of his place in Russian history and what he wants to be remembered for building rather than destroying (the 25 years or so he has been building Russia up)The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-03-02 at 2:55 AM UTCMan Biden is such an old honkey piece of shit this state of the union is depressing while trumps were just confusing, funny and sometimes anger inducing. Fuck this guy I'd rather have putin or zelensky
Look at all these senators standing up and going "YEAH FUND THE POLICE" Fucking kill yourselves you statist sacks of shit WHY ARE YOUR HEADS STILL ATTACHED TO YOUR BODIES??? -
2022-03-02 at 4:20 AM UTCGotta tell ya Sudo, I’m happy with boring.
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2022-03-02 at 4:23 AM UTChanding out firearm to his citizens was an idiotic move imo
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2022-03-02 at 6:15 AM UTCShoulda handed out Walkie TalkieThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-03-02 at 6:20 AM UTCThey'll regret handing out weapons when they find out the gyppos in ukraine immediately fenced them.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-03-02 at 8:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo I realized that zelensky has to stay in power and Putin suffered some serious bay of pigs style group think. He didn't read the room and now zelensky has to stay in power. No way a puppet would last more than 10 minutes and Russia can't occupy Ukraine. It's going to wear on the troops, at no point will they be greeted as liberators.
The optics are just horrible and the cost is so much higher for Russia than Ukraine. Like I see why he did it but he picked a really weird time. Literally waiting a month or two would be better, I'm sure he had his reasons but he's obviously more isolated than he has been for a while and went all meth and maps in the bunker
At this point federalization would be viewed by ukranians as balkanization and framed in the media as an attempt to make the country a vassle (which is the best case scenario for russia)but either way, there is a point where the objectives stop being worth it, and the possibility of bearing the brunt of the cost only to lose down the line is an embarrassment which is the worst thing in the world for a Russian.
Putin is thinking of his place in Russian history and what he wants to be remembered for building rather than destroying (the 25 years or so he has been building Russia up)
Russia doesn't need a vassal or a puppet; what they're demanding is a return to neutrality. They're trying to enforce this long-term by degrading military capability and removing the existing 'nazi' government under the pretext that it both presents a serious threat to Russia through their NATO aspirations and has been victimising its own people (most acutely the Eastern regions) for the past decade. Once the Army has surrendered and Porky and Zelensky have fled to israel I expect we'll see a new political apparatus with either a new constitution or a non-aggression agreement similar to what's been signed by the LDNR and a staggered withdrawal. How stable and resistant to outside interference long-term that'll be is a different story.
The western media is far too focused on blaming Putin personally for this, probably because it's a lot easier and less likely to shine blame on them than investigating the root causes. As it stands, I've seen a few surveys lately that put domestic Russian opposition to the war at around 10% (60-70% for, remainder undecided) - as I've said multiple times before, anyone else who could've been in Putin's position would've acted much earlier. -
2022-03-02 at 9:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo I realized that zelensky has to stay in power and Putin suffered some serious bay of pigs style group think. He didn't read the room and now zelensky has to stay in power. No way a puppet would last more than 10 minutes and Russia can't occupy Ukraine. It's going to wear on the troops, at no point will they be greeted as liberators.
The optics are just horrible and the cost is so much higher for Russia than Ukraine. Like I see why he did it but he picked a really weird time. Literally waiting a month or two would be better, I'm sure he had his reasons but he's obviously more isolated than he has been for a while and went all meth and maps in the bunker
At this point federalization would be viewed by ukranians as balkanization and framed in the media as an attempt to make the country a vassle (which is the best case scenario for russia)but either way, there is a point where the objectives stop being worth it, and the possibility of bearing the brunt of the cost only to lose down the line is an embarrassment which is the worst thing in the world for a Russian.
Putin is thinking of his place in Russian history and what he wants to be remembered for building rather than destroying (the 25 years or so he has been building Russia up)
Don't talk about geopolitics if you can't spell "vassal". -
2022-03-02 at 9:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Russia doesn't need a vassal or a puppet; what they're demanding is a return to neutrality. They're trying to enforce this long-term by degrading military capability and removing the existing 'nazi' government under the pretext that it both presents a serious threat to Russia through their NATO aspirations and has been victimising its own people (most acutely the Eastern regions) for the past decade. Once the Army has surrendered and Porky and Zelensky have fled to israel I expect we'll see a new political apparatus with either a new constitution or a non-aggression agreement similar to what's been signed by the LDNR and a staggered withdrawal. How stable and resistant to outside interference long-term that'll be is a different story.
The western media is far too focused on blaming Putin personally for this, probably because it's a lot easier and less likely to shine blame on them than investigating the root causes. As it stands, I've seen a few surveys lately that put domestic Russian opposition to the war at around 10% (60-70% for, remainder undecided) - as I've said multiple times before, anyone else who could've been in Putin's position would've acted much earlier.
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2022-03-02 at 11:42 AM UTC
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2022-03-02 at 11:50 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Russia doesn't need a vassal or a puppet; what they're demanding is a return to neutrality. They're trying to enforce this long-term by degrading military capability and removing the existing 'nazi' government under the pretext that it both presents a serious threat to Russia through their NATO aspirations and has been victimising its own people (most acutely the Eastern regions) for the past decade. Once the Army has surrendered and Porky and Zelensky have fled to israel I expect we'll see a new political apparatus with either a new constitution or a non-aggression agreement similar to what's been signed by the LDNR and a staggered withdrawal. How stable and resistant to outside interference long-term that'll be is a different story.
The western media is far too focused on blaming Putin personally for this, probably because it's a lot easier and less likely to shine blame on them than investigating the root causes. As it stands, I've seen a few surveys lately that put domestic Russian opposition to the war at around 10% (60-70% for, remainder undecided) - as I've said multiple times before, anyone else who could've been in Putin's position would've acted much earlier.
A new government and constitution would have 0 legitimacy with the Ukrainian people and get colored while the ink is still dry. It's magical thinking to imagine the Ukraine army surrendering and zelensky fleeing (I believe porky already fled to Poland despite having to surrender his passport due to outstanding charges) and just letting Russia dictate the terms of a new constitution while being an international pariah. That could have been an objective originally but it's a dynamic situation and that's not really realistic right now.
Putin is going to start laying siege to Kiev, in a battle that will make the donetsk airport look like a homoerptic Slapfight, then go back to the negotiating table and hope he gets recognition of the areas he wants and a guarantee Ukraine won't join NATO. That would be a victory but the higher the cost is for Russia the less the Ukrainians will be willing to relinquishThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-03-02 at 11:57 AM UTC
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2022-03-02 at 12:25 PM UTCAlso why isn't Russia using more aircraft? The troops are moving far beyond air support and they have so far failed to take vaselkiv, is that what they're waiting for? They could be flying right into Kiev and Kharkov easily rn but Russia is leaving it alone. There are literally more Ukrainian planes in the sky over Ukraine than Russian right now.
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2022-03-02 at 1:19 PM UTC
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2022-03-02 at 1:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo Also why isn't Russia using more aircraft? The troops are moving far beyond air support and they have so far failed to take vaselkiv, is that what they're waiting for? They could be flying right into Kiev and Kharkov easily rn but Russia is leaving it alone. There are literally more Ukrainian planes in the sky over Ukraine than Russian right now.
Maybe politics? The Russian army is artillery based, and maybe the airforce guys say "lets sit this one out and not get blamed for dead civilians". So they let the grug-brained army guys do all the fighting. There are probably intense inter-service conflicts too, and the Russians probably don't have the whole idea of using air in close support of ground troops as well refined as other armys do. There are also a lot of anti-air missiles floating around too. And the Russians have been winning handily so far, so no need to risk expensive planes when there are endless conscripts available to soak up shrapnel instead. I know it feels like it's dragging out, but the yanks took 3 months to take Baghdad in 2003, so this is actually nothing. -
2022-03-02 at 2:04 PM UTChopefully dubai or kuwait can harbor all of these refugees
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2022-03-02 at 2:17 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-03-02 at 2:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump Maybe politics? The Russian army is artillery based, and maybe the airforce guys say "lets sit this one out and not get blamed for dead civilians". So they let the grug-brained army guys do all the fighting. There are probably intense inter-service conflicts too, and the Russians probably don't have the whole idea of using air in close support of ground troops as well refined as other armys do. There are also a lot of anti-air missiles floating around too. And the Russians have been winning handily so far, so no need to risk expensive planes when there are endless conscripts available to soak up shrapnel instead. I know it feels like it's dragging out, but the yanks took 3 months to take Baghdad in 2003, so this is actually nothing.
Yeah Russia has so many aircraft though, and new ones too, it's just weird how the troops aren't being supported by them. It's just weird to take such a bold risk then use risk adverse behavior when it comes to aircraft. Maybe doesn't want another repeat of 2014 and have another passenger plane taken put idk.
