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LDNR Militias are Mobilising

  1. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by DontTellEm Whose fault is that in a completely unfaulted attack? Somehow the US is to blame?šŸ˜‚

    'completely unfaulted'? can you say that like a normal person?


    Go look up the 2014 coup. The Minsk Agreements. The various ATOs. The massive artillery attacks on LDNR's infrastructure that preceded the Russian intervention. Cyclone Battalion.
  2. DontTellEm Black Hole
    lol. Whatā€™s that have to with Ukrainian resolve ?
  3. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    The US ran a coup back in 2014 deposing the Ukrainian government in order to put an anti-Russian figurehead in place.

    Large regions in the East, who are majority ethnic-Russian, refused to accept it and tried to break away from the new state.

    The new government immediately tried to take them back by force, using both the regular military and poorly-disciplined mercenaries who are guilty of very, very serious crimes (again, see CYCLONE BATTALION).

    The government agreed to a ceasefire and negotiations back in 2016 (the Minsk Agreements), but never actually followed through and have been trying to retake those regions militarily ever since.

    Attacks on the breakaway regions have escalated to attempts of literal extermination and genocide. Russia intervened to protect those regions, given that in the days leading to the intervention, the UAF was firing almost 2000 artillery shells into the region DAILY.

    Russia's original plan was likely just to support the Eastern regions with artillery or rocket fire, but literally the day before the operation the Ukrainian president went on TV and openly said he intended to start building nuclear weapons (which the Ukraine is actually capable of being part of the former Soviet Union).
  4. Originally posted by Technologist Fucking hilarious. Youā€™re still holding on to that peacekeeping thingyšŸ¤£šŸ¤£

    I donā€™t usually get this excited about something like this, but you are always making fun of me ā€œRussia boogeymanā€ bla bla bla. Theyā€™re war mongers.

    The funniest part is you continually say Iā€™m always wrongā€¦well buddy, hate to break the news to ya, but you are WRONG!

    All the bad shit you say about the US, now thatā€™s some shit slappin irony.

    Honest question. If you don't agree that this conflict is occurring bc there are Ukrainian separatists who are pro-Russia then why do you think this conflict is occurring?

    ETA: Do you consider the US to also be warmongers?
  5. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition


    not a political comment, there's just so much going on in this guy's room


    I'm not sure if he's actually a volunteer or just someone who thinks they're cool
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  6. DontTellEm Black Hole
    lol literally the Ukraine president didnā€™t do that. He basically pushed off US telling him that a strike was immatureā€¦.so dumb to think this is our war. But itā€™s effects could /will be catastrophic.
  7. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by DontTellEm lol literally the Ukraine president didnā€™t do that

    didn't do what?
  8. DontTellEm Black Hole
    Didnā€™t call for war.
  9. DontTellEm Black Hole
    Just martial law. It can be resolved, best outcome.
  10. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by DontTellEm Didnā€™t call for war.

    I don't blame Zelensky personally, but did you read what I wrote?

    He refused to reconcile with the Eastern regions and actively tried to wipe them out.

    He is attempting to join and host weapons for an alliance against Russia when his border is literally 300km or so away from Moscow. For reference, modern ballistic missiles can make that distance before the launch is even detected.

    He refused to negotiate with Russia or the breakaway regions on the matter.


    He created a situation where Russia felt they had to step in in order to prevent a genocide.

    regardless of whether or not the current Russian operation is excessive, they have a good reason for it - much better than justification than US involvement in any of their wars in the last 20 years or so.

    it'd be more like if Russia toppled the Mexican government and put their own puppet in place, then Tijuana decided 'fuck that we're independent now'.

    Then the new Mexican government signed an agreement to partially recognise their independence, but instead of honouring it bombed them for 7 years straight.

    Does the US just sit by as all their expats there get wiped out? Does the US just sit there as Russia starts to move strategic weapons into Mexico proper?
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  11. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    also I'm not going to post about casualties, losses or specific battles for a while because the information available is extremely conflicting
  12. Technologist victim of incest
    Originally posted by frala Honest question. If you don't agree that this conflict is occurring bc there are Ukrainian separatists who are pro-Russia then why do you think this conflict is occurring?

    ETA: Do you consider the US to also be warmongers?

    I know and have known about the issues with the separatist regions.

    Are we war mongers? We very well may be, but that wasnā€™t my point with that post.

    Iā€™ve tolerated aldra telling me Iā€™m always wrong, that all Americans are dumb fat sheep, that I donā€™t know how to enhancement my news. Iā€™m fed up with it, and I most definitely am enjoying this arrogant guy being so fucking wrong about such a big issue. Am I gloating?ā€¦you bet ya.
  13. Technologist victim of incest
    The man builds up 170,000 troops at the border, but itā€™s everyone elseā€™s fault. I promise you the world does not see things the way you do aldra, and how the rest of the world responds to this will be Putinā€™s undoing.
  14. Originally posted by Technologist I know and have known about the issues with the separatist regions.

    Are we war mongers? We very well may be, but that wasnā€™t my point with that post.

    Iā€™ve tolerated aldra telling me Iā€™m always wrong, that all Americans are dumb fat sheep, that I donā€™t know how to enhancement my news. Iā€™m fed up with it, and I most definitely am enjoying this arrogant guy being so fucking wrong about such a big issue. Am I gloating?ā€¦you bet ya.

    Right, I don't really care what is going on between you and aldra tbf. I'm just trying to understand what you think the root of this conflict is and whether or not you think Russia is the only country that solicits war or if you think the US is also guilty of that.
  15. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Technologist The man builds up 170,000 troops at the border, but itā€™s everyone elseā€™s fault.

    repeating stupid things doesn't make them less stupid.

    for the last time, Russia reactivated two armored brigades. They were disbanded during the Warsaw Pact era because NATO guaranteed Russia that the Ukraine (and the other ex-Soviet states) would be left neutral and neither side would station weapons there.

    Thanks to the 2014 coup and the Ukraine's attempted ascension to NATO, it is no longer considered neutral.

    The new armored units aren't stationed 'on the border' either; they're roughly halfway between the border and Moscow. I don't believe they're participating in the operation anyway.
  16. Technologist victim of incest
    Originally posted by frala Right, I don't really care what is going on between you and aldra tbf. I'm just trying to understand what you think the root of this conflict is and whether or not you think Russia is the only country that solicits war or if you think the US is also guilty of that.

    Of course the US is guilty of that. But not this time. I donā€™t care if heā€™s trying to be a peacekeeper or not, heā€™s has launched a full scale invasion. Thatā€™s just the facts mam.
  17. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Donald Trump Looks like dual citizens are exempt from Zelensky's ban on 18-60 year old men leaving Ukraine.



    kek
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  18. Originally posted by Technologist I donā€™t care if heā€™s trying to be a peacekeeper or not, heā€™s has launched a full scale invasion.

    Would you care if you were a Ukrainian who was pro-Russia?
  19. DontTellEm Black Hole
    Thatā€™s a dumb question. Go to Russia.
  20. Technologist victim of incest
    Originally posted by frala Would you care if you were a Ukrainian who was pro-Russia?

    I have to admit that I agree with DTE. They donā€™t have to stay there, they want Russian rule, go to Russia. Iā€™m more concerned about the Ukrainian citizens than Russia and itā€™s separatists.
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