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Contact is objectively the superior Matthew Mcconaughey Wormhole Magic Film
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2022-01-25 at 4:58 AM UTCInterstellar and its shoddy science can suck a fat cock
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2022-01-25 at 4:59 AM UTCfuck that I'm watching stargate againThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-01-25 at 5:03 AM UTCI can never take it seriously when a wormhole takes people apart to the atom, then puts them back together perfectly in precisely the right place (in an ostensibly infinite universe) for the plot to progress.
it's like firing a lego set out of a cannon.
so if I'm not pretending to take the 'science' seriously I'm just as likely to enjoy the inclusion of a dildo gun that paralyzes, kills and vanishes someone on the first three shots -
2022-01-25 at 5:04 AM UTCInterstellar might've been better as a ghost story
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2022-01-25 at 5:05 AM UTCfour for flinching
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2022-01-25 at 5:18 AM UTCI mean yeah, wormholes are almost universally sci-fi science woo magic, but I mean it’s at least a way of facilitating a plot that doesn’t fall apart under scrutiny of highschool level physics.
Not that I really know what I’m talking about, but I don’t think there’s a need to suppose that travel through wormholes involves deconstruction and reassembly of matter.
And in the case of contact, the travel is mediated by technology so at least it’s not “derp I flew into a black hole and saw god” level deus ex -
2022-01-25 at 5:20 AM UTCInterstellar would have been better as a gay sex scene between Mcconaughey and Damon called “Matt Meats Matt”
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2022-01-25 at 5:21 AM UTCWormholes are cool as fuck in the sense that they're literally just... like... pinched space-time. Anything beyond that is retarded. I've never seen Contact, but Interstellar didn't piss me off too much. Kinda just a guy in pinched space-time experiencing 4-dimensional reality, and - with the help of 4-dimensional beings - tweaking 3-dimensional reality's nipples in a way that his daughter could understand.
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2022-01-25 at 5:23 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-01-25 at 5:23 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-01-25 at 5:23 AM UTC“Matt on Matt Violence”
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2022-01-25 at 5:24 AM UTC“Settle it on the Matt”The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-01-25 at 5:24 AM UTCStargate is choice as hell though. The better Star Trek. Fuck trekkies.
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2022-01-25 at 5:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai Wormholes are cool as fuck in the sense that they're literally just… like… pinched space-time. Anything beyond that is retarded. I've never seen Contact, but Interstellar didn't piss me off too much. Kinda just a guy in pinched space-time experiencing 4-dimensional reality, and - with the help of 4-dimensional beings - tweaking 3-dimensional reality's nipples in a way that his daughter could understand.
BUT RETROCAUSALITY?!?!
Reeeeee! -
2022-01-25 at 5:26 AM UTCAlso I will never forgive the fucking gravity/wave planet bullshit of interstellar
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2022-01-25 at 5:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Also I will never forgive the fucking gravity/wave planet bullshit of interstellar
Kinda goofy, but pretty much unrelated to the wormhole itself, neh?
Originally posted by Lanny BUT RETROCAUSALITY?!?!
Reeeeee!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa
Once you're in pinched space-time you're outside of causal reality. You can impact causal reality at any point. If you have access to the entirety of the 4th dimension (assuming "time" has dimensionality which is fucky but like, just go with it bruh), then retrocausality is meaningless. Crying about retrocausality in the case where "time" and the causal relationships that underpin it are extradimensional interactions is a fool's errand. Like a 2d being complaining that we mined a rock or some shit. Probably a similar experience from that perspective. idk -
2022-01-25 at 5:33 AM UTCHe’s just mad at Christopher Nolan for piggybacking off Carl Sagan. I call it inspiration. I also understand the word FICTION, the definition of which seems to be highly contested in this household. Well really he’s just mad at Christopher Nolan I think. We have this debate like every three months.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-01-25 at 5:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I can never take it seriously when a wormhole takes people apart to the atom, then puts them back together perfectly in precisely the right place (in an ostensibly infinite universe) for the plot to progress.
So that explains Cloverfield III with the woman stuck inside the wall. If you've not seen it please do, I cba explaining this part but I thought it was a good film. -
2022-01-25 at 5:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai Kinda goofy, but pretty much unrelated to the wormhole itself, neh?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa
Once you're in pinched space-time you're outside of causal reality. You can impact causal reality at any point. If you have access to the entirety of the 4th dimension (assuming "time" has dimensionality which is fucky but like, just go with it bruh), then retrocausality is meaningless. Crying about retrocausality in the case where "time" and the causal relationships that underpin it are extradimensional interactions is a fool's errand. Like a 2d being complaining that we mined a rock or some shit. Probably a similar experience from that perspective. idk
Like kinda I guess, my issue with interstellar’s wormhole thing is just that it a. invalidates the rest of the narrative and makes the vast majority of the plot filler to pad out the deus ex resolution b. related, is not meaningfully foreshadowed or built towards c. is somehow powered by human emotions? and c.1 if we accept time as reversible which you kinda need to for various reasons and to make wormhole time travel exist and c.2 accept that you can influence the past in that scenario then c.3 I think you’re kinda stuck with the need for yet another dimension on top of time or need branching or some shit which means there’s an infinity of universe where McC didn’t universally nipple twist his daughter into being a feminist icon and humanity’s savior and the value of human life and the basic morality that underpins the whole narrative falls apart but is also really kind of an interesting idea that remains 100% unexplored because love conquers all or some bullshit
But that’s really all plot problems. The shitty internally inconsistent science comes in elsewhere, most egregiously in nigger wave planet -
2022-01-25 at 5:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by frala He’s just mad at Christopher Nolan for piggybacking off Carl Sagan. I call it inspiration. I also understand the word FICTION, the definition of which seems to be highly contested in this household. Well really he’s just mad at Christopher Nolan I think. We have this debate like every three months.
The word the definition of which is contested in this household is not fiction but SCIENCE