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Newcomb's Paradox Thread
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2021-11-14 at 8:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by Nigger Nintendo Nobody disregarded half the thought experiment, it's just not relevant to what you decide when you in the 2nd half.
You're disregarding the likely outcome and picking the strategy which optimizes for all outcomes, despite the fact that the strategy you chose will have the likely outcome of $1000. It's like being a tinfoil hat wearing paranoid schizo prepper - you are barely functional in the likely outcome (that society persists) but well optimized for the unlikely outcome (SHTF). One boxing is just how healthy effective people live their day to day lives, not optimizing at all for outcomes which are unlikely and flourishing in the likely outcome.
People like you should have to wear a sign that says you optimize for the least likely case. -
2021-11-15 at 4:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai You're disregarding the likely outcome and picking the strategy which optimizes for all outcomes, despite the fact that the strategy you chose will have the likely outcome of $1000. It's like being a tinfoil hat wearing paranoid schizo prepper - you are barely functional in the likely outcome (that society persists) but well optimized for the unlikely outcome (SHTF). One boxing is just how healthy effective people live their day to day lives, not optimizing at all for outcomes which are unlikely and flourishing in the likely outcome.
People like you should have to wear a sign that says you optimize for the least likely case.
No I'm not disregarding the likely outcome at all, I'm just telling you your choice at that point makes no difference as to what Omega predicted in the past. You picking B-only now has zero influence on whether the box will likely have $1,000,000 in it. You can't get around this. -
2021-11-15 at 6:13 AM UTCHere is the story:
Once upon a time there was ALEX TREMEC, who was a GAMESHOW HOST.
On the way to work, ALEX TREMEC reflected on life.
Perhaps ALEX TREMEC will not be a GAMESHOW HOST forever.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-11-17 at 4:03 PM UTC
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2021-12-14 at 1:31 AM UTCGayKai, argue with me faggot. 2 boxes.
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2021-12-14 at 1:34 AM UTC
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2021-12-14 at 2:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai but yeah enjoy your thousand dollars, loser
Let's say you choose only box B. You get $1m. Now Allah himself gives you a special once only time travel dispensation to rewind 10 seconds in time to right before you made your choice, with all your knowledge, and the ability to choose either of the boxes. There is no retro causality. You just know that choosing A+B will give you $1m1k. What do you choose? -
2021-12-14 at 7:56 AM UTC
Originally posted by Tyrant Let's say you choose only box B. You get $1m. Now Allah himself gives you a special once only time travel dispensation to rewind 10 seconds in time to right before you made your choice, with all your knowledge, and the ability to choose either of the boxes. There is no retro causality. You just know that choosing A+B will give you $1m1k. What do you choose?
Omega predicted that Allah himself would make this offer and I would not accept it, which is the only reason B had $1000000. -
2021-12-14 at 7:57 AM UTCI will not travel through time, thank you. I don't like messing with causality. Not only am I rewarded my cool million dollars, but I get to be humble in front of god. Truly the greatest of rewards.
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2021-12-14 at 8 AM UTCGreed is a sin, my melanated friend. I will not fail Allah's test.
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2021-12-14 at 8:10 AM UTC
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2021-12-14 at 8:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai I will not travel through time, thank you. I don't like messing with causality. Not only am I rewarded my cool million dollars, but I get to be humble in front of god. Truly the greatest of rewards.
You can just imagine travelling through time to understand that A+B would be the superior option. -
2021-12-14 at 8:46 AM UTC
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2021-12-14 at 8:50 AM UTCYou failed Allah's test by believing Omega could defeat him, you fail, get $0 and lose at life. Allah will now give you $0 even if you take Box A because fuck you, you are a fool and a faggot and you deserve nothing.
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2021-12-14 at 8:53 AM UTCi demonstrably have $1000000 and allah's respect for not messing with causality, while you - in your desperate greed and arrogance - will experience jahannam when you perish. Obviously.
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2021-12-14 at 9:15 AM UTChaha i hope allah ain't real, i hear that nigga don't take kindly to people who suppose to do his job for him. like me judging where your soul is headed is probably no bueno.
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2021-12-14 at 9:15 AM UTCim blaspheming so hard right now im gonna cummmm
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2021-12-14 at 10:47 AM UTC
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2021-12-14 at 1:28 PM UTCI'm qu'ming
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2021-12-14 at 3:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Meikai I will not travel through time, thank you. I don't like messing with causality.
Lol the entire thought experiment revolves around retrocausality-by-any-other-name. There is nothing here but trying to trick people into thinking causality is being messed with while telling them explicitly it’s not.
