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How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.

  1. kzs Yung Blood
    Thank you all of the informations and for keep it live this thread.

    One time I did a minimum amount of meth (was so great, then realized I never tried before in pure form).
    Not worth it from extract PSE from pills to expensive here. I want to make a bigger amount.

    I asked from ephedra extract because its seems to be to easy and cheap from china
  2. kzs Yung Blood
    Originally posted by Ghost wtf is ephedra extract. You mean like you extract it from the plant?

    something like this.

    https://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=8493.0
  3. Ghost Black Hole
    any kind of ephedrine should work. you can use ephedrine or pseudoephedrine.

    Ephedra from plant works just fine, all you need to do is acid base extract and use non polar solvent to remove alkaloids from plant matter.



    You can also brew ephedrine


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    https://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/serious/000199197.html



    if you are gonna order from china just order p2p and do it that way. there are many unwatched chemicals used in the p2p process

  4. kzs Yung Blood
    Thank you for your answer.
  5. kzs Yung Blood
    If I understand well Pmk Glycidate can reflux MD-P2P or P2P.
    Can you give me a waypoint how to reflux Pmk Glycidate to P2P?
    _
    I would much appreciate.
  6. kzs Yung Blood
    Or the easiest way to do, BMK glycidate to P2P?
  7. Ghost Black Hole
    yeah i think thats the one. There is one people order it's like the p2p version of PMK. i think it might be BMK although i'm not sure, haven't looked too much into it.

    I am more familiar with the MEK benzaldehyde route

    To a 1 litre flask is added 625 ml of Glacial acetic acid and 143 grms of Sodium Perborate. To this is added 100 grms of the methyl phenyl butenone with stirring and the mixture is heated to 50°C. The mixture will heat up so care has to be taken ie cooling. However if the mix gets too cool it solidifies. Stirring and heating continued for about 6 hours. Cooled poured into 1 litre H2O and extracted with toluene or DCM. The solvent is distilled leaving a yellow oil that has a pleasant smell. This is added to 500 mls of 10% NaOH solution (50/50 H20:EtOH) and stirred for 1-2 hours extracted with toluene or DCM and distilled and the fraction boiling between 210-220°C collected Phenyl-2-Propanone (About 35 gms)
  8. blurry Yung Blood
    Good evening,
    As non english speaker i have difficulties to understand the first post after "li rest on top the solvent" step.
    Please somebody help give me clue what to do.
  9. Ghost Black Hole
    it just means when it's done the lithium will float to the top. it looks kinda like this. the weird black/grey stuff is the lithium

  10. kzs Yung Blood
    Can you give me a short write up from p2p how to do meth?
    Because I would like to know what kind of chemicals you used to it.
    Which chemicals easily to buy.

    Thank you!
  11. Ghost Black Hole
    It really depends what you can get. For me personally if I was gonna that route I would make phenylacetic acid from mandelic acid and then make p2p from that. That's my favorite route because if you can get mandelic acid it skips the sodium cyanide step completely.

    15 grams Mandelic Acid (0.1 mol), 2.07g KI (6.25% of theory), and 6g Red Phosphorous is dissolved in a solution of 70ml phosphoric acid and 10 ml of water, and this solution is refluxed for six hours (bp of soln 144°C). After the reaction mixture has cooled down, a little water is added to dissolve precipitated inorganic salts. The solution is extracted with ether, and the pooled extracts washed with a little dilute NaHSO3, followed by water, and is then dried over Na2SO4. The ether is removed under diminished pressure and the residue is distilled (bp 138-139°C/13mmHg). The yield is 12.5 grams (90%) of phenylacetic acid melting at 76°C. 3.2 grams of phosphorous could be recovered from the aqueous solution.

    I never had any luck trying to get cyanide compounds even though it's widely used in mining. But in other counties maybe it's easier to get a large amount of it.

    the old school american biker route was to make P2NP from benzaldehyde and nitroethane and then reduce that with NaBH4 to p2p

    Most people just order p2p from china nowadays though instead of making it themselves
  12. kzs Yung Blood
    Ghost!

    Which is the easiest way to extract Pse (from microcrystalline cellulose with ibuprofen) from pills?
    (No other pills here only with ibuprofen in m.cellulose)

    I never tried with cooking. Can you give me a short simple write up please.
    Before I order something from china I want to get some practice.

    Thank you!
  13. Ghost Black Hole
    here is an old school method that still works. it's called the tetra trap or tetra twist

    https://niggasin.space/thread/6585

    Originally posted by The Self Taught Man Micro crystalline cellulose precipitates out of cold xylene, preboil in straight xylene will remove the bulk of it right away. throw this out or distill it to recover the solvents.
    proceed with standard anhydrous extraction into xylene/tetra using Na2CO3
    reflux it for a good long time then enhancement it fast and gas it hot
    enhancement it hot
    rinse it with cold dry mek
    recrystallize it from mek/water
    then again if you want from either water or an alcohol and acetone.

    Investigate the solubility of your particular set of inactives against possibly toluene.
    different solvents have slightly different characteristics
    some report good results adding about 25% naphtha to the xylene preboil
    sometimes pills have unlisted gaaks in them.
    pills are hard.

    toluene has lower boiling point than xylene but its thinner and more aromatic
    its a more selective solvent than xylene
    xylene is real aggressive, eats plastic and wax.

    Toluene is real nice for extracting final product into
    xylene is best all around pill extraction solvent.
    Ethyl acetate works really well, too but it needs to be mixed about 10% with ethanol for best effect
    and crystallization of the HCl back out of the azeotrope is a pain in the ass

    xylene is generally best.

    Avoid water and avoid reagents with really high pH… that is, avoid KOH and NaOH with pills as the high pH activates certain gaaks… or so they say…Na2CO3 is plenty high enough pH but doesn't seem to effect the gaaks… water sets the gaaks loco! avoid water unless you can duplicate the human digestive tract in the lab… i mean, people do swallow these pills and the shit does wind up in their blood… so if the body can separate it, so can we, but water methods normally result in a mass of plastic goop… alcohols are treacherous as well…
  14. kzs Yung Blood
    Hello Ghost!

    I got Propalin Syrup (Phenylpropanolamine Hydrochlorid) to make speed. (same method like meth)

    https://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/?id=-459666

    Please give me directions how can I extract it from that syrup (non-crystallising sorbitol solution).

    If I mix that syrup with mek or xylene without warming the solution can I gassing after that with hydrochloric acid and aluminium?

    Is it possible cold extraction?

    Or what would I do?

    Thank you.
  15. Ghost Black Hole
    i have never heard of that stuff. If its hcl all you need to do is add a base like ammonia to freebase it and use non polar to get the PPA out. idk why your fucking with PPA though

    "Basify to approximately pH 9 with 10% Sodium Carbonate or Sodium Hydroxide solution. Extract out PPA base using 3 volumes of ether of approximately 1/3 the volume of water. The methanol will follow into the ether as well, but very little of the formed salt will.

    Distill off ether/methanol for later recovery of the solvents and weigh the amount of solid PPA base, mp 101C. The amount you process here determines, obviously, the amounts of everything else to use later on."

    lel

  16. blurry Yung Blood
    Hey mate, my mixture became thick grey
    Im using naoh, isopropyl alchohol, amonium sulfate fertilizer product, and phone battery

    Any solution mate?
  17. you need lithium or sodium metal idk what phone battery contains
  18. k33m1k Yung Blood [uncase that omnidirectional aspirator]
    Originally posted by blurry Hey mate, my mixture became thick grey
    Im using naoh, isopropyl alchohol, amonium sulfate fertilizer product, and phone battery

    Any solution mate?

    When there is lots of pressure suddenly then it can turn black/grey put not thick.
  19. k33m1k Yung Blood [uncase that omnidirectional aspirator]
    Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood you need lithium or sodium metal idk what phone battery contains

    Some phone batterys have lithium in them.
  20. Alimemo Yung Blood
    Hello Experts,

    PLEASE HELP !! i did every step successfully I put water before pouring last can of fuel, then lithium, and lye, reaction start perfectly after a while I add another dose of water and lye the reaction continue perfectly. my issues are :
    1- After a while with shaking Lithium strips disappeared in the mix ?
    2- the whole mix turned to tea milk color and never settle to clear even I kept it to settle over night
    3- Due to reaction heat and reaction with soda bottle the bottle got a hole from the side then torn apart. BIG MESS !!
    I messed up two patches with same issues, first patch turned to BLACK color and second to thick tea milk mix what is wrong ?
    * i am using Carburettor cleaner can as a fuel coz where I live don't use starting fuel so its not available ( ANY OTHER SUGGESTION)
    * Two Lithium batteries
    * PSeudo, lye, ammonia nitrate ….
    Please help me I have 300 PSeudo left for third trial, hope to reach smoking part and celebrate the white snow.
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