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Why do you exist?
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2017-04-07 at 1:36 AM UTCExistentialism is a way for depressed people to rationalize the failures that truly affect their self worth. Its a coping mechanism. I don't look down on that. you say no mercy for the weak. I say no mercy for the strong. They're already strong.
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2017-04-07 at 1:37 AM UTCbecause somebody made a mistake
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2017-04-07 at 1:38 AM UTC
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2017-04-07 at 1:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra that is retarded, even by this site's standards.
you're one of the people im talking about. tell yourself none of this matters. then ask yourself why you're so sad. I understand the rationale better than probably anybody. I've thrown pity parties and they are fucking awesome and a lot of fun. but in the long run it only wears you down and causes you to miss out on yo blessings. -
2017-04-07 at 1:41 AM UTC
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2017-04-07 at 1:43 AM UTC
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2017-04-07 at 1:44 AM UTCWhatever the opposite of existentialism is. :)
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2017-04-07 at 1:45 AM UTCAnd it's quite alright. At least there's one current thread with an actual conversation and topic.
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2017-04-07 at 1:45 AM UTCDad,
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2017-04-07 at 1:47 AM UTCMy point is this world may be fake but your feelings are real and they shape your perception so be good to them and try to act in a way you feel good about later
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2017-04-07 at 1:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by WS you're one of the people im talking about. tell yourself none of this matters. then ask yourself why you're so sad.
you're not wrong about that, but the truth is that none of this does matter, no matter how you justify it to yourself. 50 years after you die nobody will remember your name.
if anything, ignoring the big picture and just trying to be happy is fooling yourself - you'll still die, you'll still be forgotten and you'll still have nothing to show for it. -
2017-04-07 at 1:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra you're not wrong about that, but the truth is that none of this does matter, no matter how you justify it to yourself. 50 years after you die nobody will remember your name.
if anything, ignoring the big picture and just trying to be happy is fooling yourself - you'll still die, you'll still be forgotten and you'll still have nothing to show for it.
but the difference is I'll [always try to] be happy now, by taking the right types of chances and doing things I can be proud of. and experiencing things while I can. and making progress (in a trivial category like work, which "doesn't matter" but completely determines which kind of girls I fuck, the possessions I have, and the respect I get from people)
just rolling with it, all of it. I have my moments..seriously. and im downplaying that a lot. but that's what I try to stay true to.
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2017-04-07 at 1:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra you're not wrong about that, but the truth is that none of this does matter, no matter how you justify it to yourself. 50 years after you die nobody will remember your name.
if anything, ignoring the big picture and just trying to be happy is fooling yourself - you'll still die, you'll still be forgotten and you'll still have nothing to show for it.
So? Does that mean we should just waste away in apathy? I don't think so. -
2017-04-07 at 1:56 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra you're not wrong about that, but the truth is that none of this does matter, no matter how you justify it to yourself. 50 years after you die nobody will remember your name.
if anything, ignoring the big picture and just trying to be happy is fooling yourself - you'll still die, you'll still be forgotten and you'll still have nothing to show for it.
This reads frankly as 'ignorance is bliss.' When you give a shit, that's when you face real emotions, real depression. It's not possible to be an extremely happy person that's all about positivity and laughter every fucking day all day long if you have half a brain and pay attention to what's going on across the world.
Even if our lives are little specks in the overall frame of time, it's still a very important speck considering it's the only speck we have to work with. So on one hand saying everything is meaningless is true, and on the other hand its definitely not true under the premise that the meaning to all of this is being self-aware and learning the ability to sympathize and empathize.
I don't know man I have this aunt that's always on facebook posting things like 'I don't care what anyone says I love life!' or things like that and while I get it and I understand the aspect of positivity and happiness I also want to post pictures of kids burning alive and starving to death and animals being tortured just to fucking get her to feel a little something other than her cringe happiness. I guess that's why they say it's pretty much not possible to be both intelligent and particularly happy. Obviously there are smart people who are happy but you know what I'm saying? -
2017-04-07 at 2 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ This reads frankly as 'ignorance is bliss.' When you give a shit, that's when you face real emotions, real depression. It's not possible to be an extremely happy person that's all about positivity and laughter every fucking day all day long if you have half a brain and pay attention to what's going on across the world.
Cynicism is a defense mechanism imho.
Originally posted by mmQ Even if our lives are little specks in the overall frame of time, it's still a very important speck considering it's the only speck we have to work with. So on one hand saying everything is meaningless is true, and on the other hand its definitely not true under the premise that the meaning to all of this is being self-aware and learning the ability to sympathize and empathize.
Why? And how do you know this.
Originally posted by mmQ I don't know man I have this aunt that's always on facebook posting things like 'I don't care what anyone says I love life!' or things like that and while I get it and I understand the aspect of positivity and happiness I also want to post pictures of kids burning alive and starving to death and animals being tortured just to fucking get her to feel a little something other than her cringe happiness. I guess that's why they say it's pretty much not possible to be both intelligent and particularly happy. Obviously there are smart people who are happy but you know what I'm saying?
I know what you are saying, also, you should be kind to your aunt. Don't ruin her bubble of unfeeling happiness that would be cruel. You can take pleasure in the fact that you recognize this and show her the unspoken kindness of letting her be. -
2017-04-07 at 2:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ This reads frankly as 'ignorance is bliss.' When you give a shit, that's when you face real emotions, real depression. It's not possible to be an extremely happy person that's all about positivity and laughter every fucking day all day long if you have half a brain and pay attention to what's going on across the world.
that's kind of contradictory isn't it? Ignorance is bliss, but it's very hard to be happy if you understand what's going on in the world.
regardless of what I post on here I try to be a decent person day-to-day. -
2017-04-07 at 2:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Why? And how do you know this.
I don't know it I guess I just believe in it. Because I'm alive and I can perceive the world around me and I have a brain capable of a wide range of abilities and emotions. It's tough for me to think that we shouldn't take advantage of our potential to utilize that while we're here, even if it all goes away when we die. It's similar to why you like to learn new coding languages or why anyone likes to learn. If life has no meaning there is no purpose to acquiring knowledge, but in general what people do in life is try to acquire knowledge. Of course I'm a shitty example of this because I've already squandered a lot of my potential. I think it's the fact that I feel bad about that that plays into why I believe it must be the case.
Originally posted by Sophie I know what you are saying, also, you should be kind to your aunt. Don't ruin her bubble of unfeeling happiness that would be cruel. You can take pleasure in the fact that you recognize this and show her the unspoken kindness of letting her be.
Haha I was just saying I sometimes want to post that stuff, I certainly don't though, I'm not that big of a fuckhead. I just want to grab her and shake her like anyone that always says things like 'God is good all the time and thank God, etc. I'm sure she wants to do the same to me and tell me to stop being sad or condradictory or negative which I'm really not those things but it ruffles my feathers a bit when people do the overly happy bit and never have the ability or desire to talk or discuss real shit in the world that inherently produces feelings other than happiness.
Originally posted by aldra regardless of what I post on here I try to be a decent person day-to-day.
And that's good. It's why you don't shit up every thread because you understand that it's annoying and why the fuck would you want to be annoying? Obviously that just a little example, but I think being a good person is a great thing and very important. Life is much better when you're around people that know how to be polite, kind, funny, caring, etc. Of course there's a time and place for all emotions and attitudes and feelings but even then it takes a cool head to know when and when not it's appropriate to show them.
Originally posted by aldra that's kind of contradictory isn't it? Ignorance is bliss, but it's very hard to be happy if you understand what's going on in the world.
What? Lol.
Ignorance is bliss -- Ignoring the world's problems makes you happy, ergo it's hard to be happy if you don't ignore the world's problems. -
2017-04-07 at 2:24 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Ignorance is bliss – Ignoring the world's problems makes you happy, ergo it's hard to be happy if you don't ignore the world's problems.
I guess I misread that; I thought you were saying my position was bliss in ignorance.
As an aside I try not to go into details as to why I believe what I believe; given the way certain things changed the way I think I'm afraid they'll have a toxic effect and ruin other people -
2017-04-07 at 2:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I guess I misread that; I thought you were saying my position was bliss in ignorance.
As an aside I try not to go into details as to why I believe what I believe; given the way certain things changed the way I think I'm afraid they'll have a toxic effect and ruin other people
Yeah there's sort of a fine line when it comes to that sort of thing. You don't want to be the shit stain with the as you mentioned 'toxic effect' but you want (or at least I do) to share experiences and let others understand why you have your current belief structure. -
2017-04-07 at 2:33 AM UTC