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We are all responsible for the global holocaust
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2017-04-04 at 6:01 PM UTCOne day, our descendants will look back on our treatment of animals as the most egregious form of barbarism in recorded history. There's just no need to cause this suffering anymore, and for all of the advancement made through agriculture this stands out as the most horrifying wrong.
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2017-04-04 at 6:54 PM UTCagreed. fucking wildlife is only natural
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2017-04-04 at 6:56 PM UTCsuffering and brutality always has been and always will be part and parcel of all life on earth. animals accept that fact, they understand its a dog eat dog world. humans kid themselves that they can create this faggot heaven on earth, but its impossible. however much we "civilize" ourselves, we still, and always will live in the jungle. most humans live in such a fucking fantasy land its astounding. try living in the real world ffs, its actually alright here, once you accept it for what it is.
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2017-04-04 at 7:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist suffering and brutality always has been and always will be part and parcel of all life on earth. animals accept that fact, they understand its a dog eat dog world. humans kid themselves that they can create this faggot heaven on earth, but its impossible. however much we "civilize" ourselves, we still, and always will live in the jungle. most humans live in such a fucking fantasy land its astounding. try living in the real world ffs, its actually alright here, once you accept it for what it is.
Surely you jest, or you would apply this dog-eat-dog philosophy to the rest of your decision making. We have culture, we have values and we alone possess the capacity to orient our behavior with our beliefs. There's nothing 'natural' about keeping a mother cow impregnated year-round just to slaughter her young and ship milk and beef on trucks out to the stores where you shop. There's not a biological imperative to kill for our sustenance anymore, and no amount of excuses will make it necessary. -
2017-04-04 at 7:10 PM UTCMight not be natural, but it sure is tastyThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-04-04 at 7:13 PM UTCif other animals were the dominant species they'd do the exact same thing to humans. the only reason your cat doesn't eat you is because it knows you could overpower it.
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2017-04-04 at 7:18 PM UTC
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2017-04-04 at 7:19 PM UTChttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/07/cats-facts-jerks_n_4520552.html
"In 1992, at an American Academy of Forensic Sciences conference in New Orleans, a forensic pathologist told a haunting story: He explained that when people who live alone with their pets die unexpectedly, their bodies are sometimes left in the house for several days. Without their owners around to fill their bowls, the pets often go unfed. In cases where these people owned dogs, their pets would usually go several days without resorting to eating the owner’s body. However, a cat would only wait a day or two. The phenomenon is called “postmortem predation.”"
u rite, usually within a day or two
dogs give a little bit of a fuck for a few days in their tiny dogminds, so its like a normal person mourning loss to them -
2017-04-04 at 7:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by reject Might not be natural, but it sure is tasty
Slow cook beef if it's a big piece, add an oxo cube or two and some boiling water in the morning and then at dinner time you have some of the tastiest gravy with meat that just falls apart, roast taters and yorkshire pudding, one of the nicest meals on the planet if you ask me, all about the gravy. -
2017-04-04 at 7:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by o_o (s p l o o) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/07/cats-facts-jerks_n_4520552.html
"In 1992, at an American Academy of Forensic Sciences conference in New Orleans, a forensic pathologist told a haunting story: He explained that when people who live alone with their pets die unexpectedly, their bodies are sometimes left in the house for several days. Without their owners around to fill their bowls, the pets often go unfed. In cases where these people owned dogs, their pets would usually go several days without resorting to eating the owner’s body. However, a cat would only wait a day or two. The phenomenon is called “postmortem predation.”"
u rite, usually within a day or two
dogs give a little bit of a fuck for a few days in their tiny dogminds, so its like a normal person mourning loss to them
Except your link describes how desperate animals must choose to eat their owners as a secondary source of food, while we eat animals as a primary source in our diets, even when other, more effective options are available that minimize or eliminate animal suffering. There is no correspondence between what they do and what we do, only that we have some choice in the matter and we still inflict needless suffering. -
2017-04-04 at 7:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick #2 Except your link describes how desperate animals must choose to eat their owners as a secondary source of food, while we eat animals as a primary source in our diets, even when other, more effective options are available that minimize or eliminate animal suffering. There is no correspondence between what they do and what we do, only that we have some choice in the matter and we still inflict needless suffering.
what is a carnivore? -
2017-04-04 at 8:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick #2 Surely you jest, or you would apply this dog-eat-dog philosophy to the rest of your decision making. We have culture, we have values and we alone possess the capacity to orient our behavior with our beliefs. There's nothing 'natural' about keeping a mother cow impregnated year-round just to slaughter her young and ship milk and beef on trucks out to the stores where you shop. There's not a biological imperative to kill for our sustenance anymore, and no amount of excuses will make it necessary.
i never said it was natural. the fact is that food for any species will be another life form. for a life form to eat, another life form has to die. there is, and never will be any getting away from that. its how life works. nature is cruel, but there is also beauty in natures brutality. start living in the real world you faggot. everything, including humans, has its place on the food chain. -
2017-04-04 at 8:34 PM UTCwe might live in our nice safe nannied cities. but those cities are surrounded by jungle. we live in the city in the jungle. law of the jungle will always supercede our rules.
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2017-04-04 at 9:19 PM UTCThe answer is genetic engineering. It will change everything.
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2017-04-04 at 9:21 PM UTC
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2017-04-04 at 10:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist i never said it was natural. the fact is that food for any species will be another life form. for a life form to eat, another life form has to die. there is, and never will be any getting away from that. its how life works. nature is cruel, but there is also beauty in natures brutality. start living in the real world you faggot. everything, including humans, has its place on the food chain.
We don't live in the fucking stone age, we aren't being threatened as a species. The real world is being made right now, by us, and we're making a world with needless suffering in it and we grow up thinking it's normal. -
2017-04-04 at 10:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick #2 We don't live in the fucking stone age, we aren't being threatened as a species. The real world is being made right now, by us, and we're making a world with needless suffering in it and we grow up thinking it's normal.
you have no idea what normal is, nor any clue what the definition of suffering is. -
2017-04-05 at 12:24 AM UTC
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2017-04-05 at 3:32 AM UTC
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2017-04-05 at 3:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by o_o (s p l o o) answer me fucker
There's no reason we need to assume the natural behavior of animals is moral nor that the same moral standards apply to us as apply to lower animals. A bear doesn't appear to have the cognitive faculties necessary to make moral decisions. Likewise we don't hold certain classes of the mentally ill or children fully morally responsible for the outcomes of their actions, but this doesn't reduce our obligation to these classes of people.
