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Do rainbows exist objectively?
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2017-03-28 at 5:39 PM UTClol. 180 posts about a rain fucking bow.
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2017-03-28 at 5:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind I'm not making it up. We are all connected to each other and the world around us biologically, chemically, atomically, we are all one and this "oneness" or union of everything with everything is what everyone who has ever had a spiritual experience or revelation was experiencing at the time of their experience and what they recognized as God.
that doesn't even mean anything though really. -
2017-03-28 at 6:24 PM UTC
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2017-03-28 at 6:26 PM UTC
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2017-03-28 at 6:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Isn't the meaning of that subjective? To you it could be absolutely meaningless, but to someone else it could be very meaningful. I don't think you really have a point.
objectively it's all meaningless. the fact that you interpret some sort of meaning out of it is solely due to your choice to do so. in reality, nothing comes as a consequence of saying "all is one" or whatever, so what value does it have? of course things can be assigned subjective meaning by anyone who chooses to do so but that doesn't mean they actually have reality based consequences. -
2017-03-28 at 7:26 PM UTCI think I agree with you that from an objective view, everything is meaningless. But we don't really live in that world, we live in a subjective human world dealing with human problems and assigning human values and meaning to the world. Things like life, death, work, taxes, love, pain... are not meaningless to us, these things have real, objective consequences. And IME recognizing the interconnectedness of everything has real, objective benefits to human life.
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2017-03-28 at 7:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind I think I agree with you that from an objective view, everything is meaningless. But we don't really live in that world, we live in a subjective human world dealing with human problems and assigning human values and meaning to the world. Things like life, death, work, taxes, love, pain… are not meaningless to us, these things have real, objective consequences. And IME recognizing the interconnectedness of everything has real, objective benefits to human life.
Sure, just like how I could say recognizing that things are also separate from each other has real benefits. -
2017-03-28 at 7:36 PM UTC
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2017-03-28 at 7:46 PM UTCRainbows are NOT subjective. You can either see them or you're blind.
Think of your reflection in the mirror. Does your reflection EXIST? Sure does. Can you touch it, move it, smell it? No. Just like a rainbow. A non physical thing that still objectively exists otherwise we wouldn't have a name for it. Our reflections aren't real people and rainbows aren't real objects but they are both things that can be seen given the correct circumstances you will see them every single time. Objectively. :)The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-03-28 at 8:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Rainbows are NOT subjective. You can either see them or you're blind.
Think of your reflection in the mirror. Does your reflection EXIST? Sure does. Can you touch it, move it, smell it? No. Just like a rainbow. A non physical thing that still objectively exists otherwise we wouldn't have a name for it. Our reflections aren't real people and rainbows aren't real objects but they are both things that can be seen given the correct circumstances you will see them every single time. Objectively. :)
Colour isn't objective. A rainbow is a colourful arch that appears in the sky. If you and your girlfriend looked at a rainbow together from point A, it would appear to be different to each of you. Subjectively different. If you called your friend who lives at point B and asked him to describe the rainbow, it wouldn't even appear to be in the same location. What's objective about that? -
2017-03-28 at 8:54 PM UTCThis thread is fucking retarded.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-03-28 at 8:56 PM UTC
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2017-03-28 at 8:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Colour isn't objective. A rainbow is a colourful arch that appears in the sky. If you and your girlfriend looked at a rainbow together from point A, it would appear to be different to each of you. Subjectively different. If you called your friend who lives at point B and asked him to describe the rainbow, it wouldn't even appear to be in the same location. What's objective about that?
I'd wager that you'd claim nothing is objectively true and have only started this thread so that you could frustrate everybody for four pages. -
2017-03-28 at 8:57 PM UTC
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2017-03-28 at 8:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Colour isn't objective. A rainbow is a colourful arch that appears in the sky. If you and your girlfriend looked at a rainbow together from point A, it would appear to be different to each of you. Subjectively different. If you called your friend who lives at point B and asked him to describe the rainbow, it wouldn't even appear to be in the same location. What's objective about that?
That's like saying I only subjectively exist because sometimes people can't see me and sometimes people see me from different angles. Hrmph. -
2017-03-28 at 9:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ That's like saying I only subjectively exist because sometimes people can't see me and sometimes people see me from different angles. Hrmph.
You make a good point, but unfortunately for you specifically he's right, and you exist only subjectively. We meant to delete you a few months back but you became too sentient and too entertaining for us to feel anything but bad about that. -
2017-03-28 at 9:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Discount Whore Because you remind me of my sister.
In what way?
Originally posted by Discount Whore I'd wager that you'd claim nothing is objectively true and have only started this thread so that you could frustrate everybody for four pages.
If what I am saying is obviously bullshit, than why would it frustrate anyone? -
2017-03-28 at 9:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ That's like saying I only subjectively exist because sometimes people can't see me and sometimes people see me from different angles. Hrmph.
That's like saying there is an infinite quantity of rainbows that exist all around us all the time, but you can only see them when the conditions are just right. -
2017-03-28 at 9:03 PM UTC
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2017-03-28 at 9:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind That's like saying there is an infinite quantity of rainbows that exist all around us all the time, but you can only see them when the conditions are just right.
Yeah who knows? That's not like that though. You're asking if it exists, not if it looks exactly the same to every single person. People seeing things differently doesn't make those things' existences subjective. In fact it really demonstrates the opposite.
Anyway I don't know what definition of 'exist' you're using.
