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  1. Rear Naked Joke African Astronaut
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Our purpose is to love our creator with our whole heart and our whole soul and our whole mind, and to love our neighbors as ourselves. That is the whole of the law and the original purpose for mankind.

    Shut up faggot.
  2. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Because the point was to make a distinction between THE purpose (which you said) and A purpose. That is, it is not somehow "the point", like being the answer to the question "what is the purpose of my existence?"

    However after reading the first sentence your made in china brain zapped the fuck out and you didn't contextualise it with the second one.

    Let me break it down even further for you.

    A Von Neumann machine is a machine that can replicate itself. It is the basic "unit" of evolution. Evolution happens when a Von Neumann machine creates a nearly perfect copy of itself. If these machines require resources to run, batural selection happens when these copies then, based on their slight variations, begin copying at differential rates based on selection pressures. Some copies come out retarded and malfunctional, sterile or incapable of sufficiently gathering resources. Perhaps resources are scarce and copies that would have been fitter in times of abundance now die off due to famine.

    Essentially, your whole body's engineering towards the operation your mouth to sustain your dick and maneuver it into puss.

    But that does not mean that's what you should do with it. It's not "the" purpose of your body and your self. Many other purposes have evolved within your body in the course of those basic motivations. You have evolved many degrees of freedom, including some that other animals evolve independently as well to cope with famine or plague, such as the ability to delay or forgo reproduction for the good of the herd (gay uncle genes) or for other similar aims.

    Shut up faggit.
  3. G4LM African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Like how can a nigga not know how words work? Obbe do you think beetles are real?

    Answer the fucking question Obbe
  4. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by G4LM Answer the fucking question Obbe

    Suck a dick.

    But yes, I think beetles are real.
  5. G4LM African Astronaut
    I think beetles are real too. I'm glad we can agree on something even if it's just the existence of beetles.
  6. Rear Naked Joke African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Obbe Suck a dick.

    But yes, I think beetles are real.

    Why?
  7. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Why?

    I just saw one, I don't believe it was hallucination.
  8. Rear Naked Joke African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Obbe I just saw one, I don't believe it was hallucination.

    What makes that real as opposed to a hallucination?
  9. G4LM African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke What makes that real as opposed to a hallucination?

    As someone who has minor hallucinations on a daily basis I absolutely need to believe that the beetles I see are real.

    I can tell they are real because the beetle will pass all logic tests. Does the beetle look real? Feel real? Smell real? Taste real? Is it interacting with the world in a real way? Does it make sense that a beetle would be there?

    These are the same tests most people use to discern reality. I just do it in a much more conscious and active way.

    If you want to know how it is that I can trust all my senses... I CANT. That's why I use multiple tests. Sometimes they're too quick for tests and I go about my day not knowing whether or not the beetle was real. That's just life. I try not to worry about it too much.
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  10. Rear Naked Joke African Astronaut
    Originally posted by G4LM As someone who has minor hallucinations on a daily basis I absolutely need to believe that the beetles I see are real.

    I can tell they are real because the beetle will pass all logic tests. Does the beetle look real? Feel real? Smell real? Taste real? Is it interacting with the world in a real way? Does it make sense that a beetle would be there?

    These are the same tests most people use to discern reality. I just do it in a much more conscious and active way.

    If you want to know how it is that I can trust all my senses… I CANT. That's why I use multiple tests. Sometimes they're too quick for tests and I go about my day not knowing whether or not the beetle was real. That's just life. I try not to worry about it too much.

    What does it mean for it to feel etc "real"? By what measure?
  11. G4LM African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke What does it mean for it to feel etc "real"? By what measure?

    Sense. If i sense it, and logic checks out, its real.

    And by sense i mean taste, touch, sound, etc. Not some psychometry shit.
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  12. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke What makes that real as opposed to a hallucination?

    I don't know, it's just what I think.
  13. HTS highlight reel
    How is this thread still going? Christ. We have a moral obligation to subjectively interpret the objective refraction of light by water molecules.
  14. Rear Naked Joke African Astronaut
    Originally posted by G4LM Sense. If i sense it, and logic checks out, its real.

    And by sense i mean taste, touch, sound, etc. Not some psychometry shit.

    What do you mean "logic checks out"?

    Lots of people have very vivid dreams and accept them as true because they accept the logic of the dream.
  15. G4LM African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke What do you mean "logic checks out"?

    Lots of people have very vivid dreams and accept them as true because they accept the logic of the dream.

    I have a set of logical rules based on what I've learned about the world in my quarter decade of life, which I use to check against my perception. That's how I determine what's real.

    Whether you abide by those rules, or agree with my perception of reality, I do not give a flying fuck. Nobody has doubted my expression of what I believe to be reality thus far, and frankly, talking like this gives me a headache. It's such a stupid topic of discussion and if there is truly any reason to hate Obbe, it should be because he made this thread.
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  16. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by G4LM I have a set of logical rules based on what I've learned about the world in my quarter decade of life, which I use to check against my perception. That's how I determine what's real.

    Whether you abide by those rules, or agree with my perception of reality, I do not give a flying fuck. Nobody has doubted my expression of what I believe to be reality thus far, and frankly, talking like this gives me a headache. It's such a stupid topic of discussion and if there is truly any reason to hate Obbe, it should be because he made this thread.

    Hey this thread was awesome! But to be honest I stole the topic from debate.org, and 90% of my posts here are straight up plagiarized from various sources.
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  17. G4LM African Astronaut
    Lol I do that too. Usually with trump posts.
  18. Rear Naked Joke African Astronaut
    Originally posted by G4LM I have a set of logical rules based on what I've learned about the world in my quarter decade of life, which I use to check against my perception. That's how I determine what's real.

    Whether you abide by those rules, or agree with my perception of reality, I do not give a flying fuck. Nobody has doubted my expression of what I believe to be reality thus far, and frankly, talking like this gives me a headache. It's such a stupid topic of discussion and if there is truly any reason to hate Obbe, it should be because he made this thread.

    Nothing about that has any bearing on what's real or out there. For all you know you could be the dream of a cabbage patch.
  19. mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Nothing about that has any bearing on what's real or out there. For all you know you could be the dream of a cabbage patch.

    So what? You're a cabbage patch kid and I'm a care bear and then what ?

    I'm getting sick of everything.


    Do I need to go pass out behind taco bell to get you to take me seriously
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  20. G4LM African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Nothing about that has any bearing on what's real or out there. For all you know you could be the dream of a cabbage patch.

    Shut the fuck up. I don't care about your beliefs.
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