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Chauvin is beyond fucked

  1. Data African Astronaut
    yep
  2. Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by stl1 Chauvin is charged with second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

    Is this normal? Aren't those charges like... mutually exclusive? Can you be found guilty of manslaughter and murder of the same person? I mean I wouldn't be surprised if it was normal or I'm misunderstanding something, but lol. "We aren't sure in what way you're criminally responsible, but we're pretty sure you did *something* wrong so we're just gonna charge you with 3 mutually exclusive charges and see which one, if any, sticks."

    Probably just procedural lawyery stuff and obviously it's totally above board or the case wouldn't have proceeded, but it seems weird.
  3. Data African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Meikai Is this normal? Aren't those charges like… mutually exclusive? Can you be found guilty of manslaughter and murder of the same person? I mean I wouldn't be surprised if it was normal or I'm misunderstanding something, but lol. "We aren't sure in what way you're criminally responsible, but we're pretty sure you did *something* wrong so we're just gonna charge you with 3 mutually exclusive charges and see which one, if any, sticks."

    Probably just procedural lawyery stuff and obviously it's totally above board or the case wouldn't have proceeded, but it seems weird.

    They usually just kinda see what sticks. This is normal here tho. Is it not normal there? Because how else would you differentiate between crimes? If he got proven innocent of murder they'd just have to charge him again for manslaughter. Better to do it in one go.
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  4. Originally posted by Meikai Is this normal? Aren't those charges like… mutually exclusive? Can you be found guilty of manslaughter and murder of the same person? I mean I wouldn't be surprised if it was normal or I'm misunderstanding something, but lol. "We aren't sure in what way you're criminally responsible, but we're pretty sure you did *something* wrong so we're just gonna charge you with 3 mutually exclusive charges and see which one, if any, sticks."

    Probably just procedural lawyery stuff and obviously it's totally above board or the case wouldn't have proceeded, but it seems weird.

    No it's not normal. It like how they gave Fields 300 years for a traffic accident, way more than any serial killer.

    They want white people to feel afraid and alone.
  5. Data African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Donald Trump No it's not normal. It like how they gave Fields 300 years for a traffic accident, way more than any serial killer.

    They want white people to feel afraid and alone.

    Victim mentality^
  6. Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Data They usually just kinda see what sticks. This is normal here tho. Is it not normal there? Because how else would you differentiate between crimes? If he got proven innocent of murder they'd just have to charge him again for manslaughter. Better to do it in one go.

    It's probably normal here too, I'm not super familiar with the courts. Just seems weird. I would expect the prosecution to have to charge a defendant with the crime they actually thought the defendant committed? Like if you aren't confident that defendant committed second degree murder, why are you charging them with second degree murder? And if you are confident that they committed second degree murder, why would you charge them with something else? The lack of confidence in the charges being brought against the suspect, but the willingness to bring those charges against them regardless... just feels... not particularly justified.
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  7. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    if your trans or a trans lover your fine star trek just ask bungie.
  8. Originally posted by Data Victim mentality^

    "How dare you notice and point out that you are being victimised. Man up and be an idiot. Suffer for no reason."
  9. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    Originally posted by Meikai It's probably normal here too, I'm not super familiar with the courts. Just seems weird. I would expect the prosecution to have to charge a defendant with the crime they actually thought the defendant committed? Like if you aren't confident that defendant committed second degree murder, why are you charging them with second degree murder? And if you are confident that they committed second degree murder, why would you charge them with something else? The lack of confidence in the charges being brought against the suspect, but the willingness to bring those charges against them regardless… just feels… not particularly justified.

    if they werent confident i attacked raphael luciano since all they had was his lying gypsy victim stwtement and his fst nonwhite or mixed wife obviously biased and his kids he trwined to lie and in later videos in hawaii he is seen cosching on youtube even against cops there why believe him and charge a pollack with asdault when it was mutual?
  10. Data African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Meikai It's probably normal here too, I'm not super familiar with the courts. Just seems weird. I would expect the prosecution to have to charge a defendant with the crime they actually thought the defendant committed? Like if you aren't confident that defendant committed second degree murder, why are you charging them with second degree murder? And if you are confident that they committed second degree murder, why would you charge them with something else? The lack of confidence in the charges being brought against the suspect, but the willingness to bring those charges against them regardless… just feels… not particularly justified.

    I mean its up to the prosecution. Most people don't follow criminal cases so they don't hear about this shit. They just see some headline in the news about charges or convictions or new evidence and they base their assumptions on that instead of actual court files which are publicly accessible in all 509 AMERIKAN states.

    https://www.uscourts.gov/court-records/find-case-pacer

    https://www.mncourts.gov/Access-Case-Records.aspx


    It's not that they're confident, its just the prosecution throwing sticky frogs to the wall and seeing which stick. It's not even like super official its just some pre-set terms on paper. They can change the charge mid-court and it doesn't matter. The point is to find out the truth, not to stick to some arbitrary set definitions of crimes. They would never get anything done if you couldn't apply charges liberally as situation depends.
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  11. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    most people also dont care what happens to pollacks or polish immigrants if they ever hit the courts in any of those states fo they?
  12. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    they also domt care if miscarriage of justice or hiding evidence or things like perjury happen do they? thwt is if youre a white male or a pollack and not a tranny shagger thwt is.
  13. Data African Astronaut
    Wariat I did not read your posts and I never will thank you go kill yourself
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  14. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    yea but you have to agree its true tho.
  15. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    hey star trek have you ever cooked a fish for a woman?
  16. Data African Astronaut
    I told you not to thank my posts ever the fuck again.

    FUCK.
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  17. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    Originally posted by Meikai Is this normal? Aren't those charges like… mutually exclusive? Can you be found guilty of manslaughter and murder of the same person? I mean I wouldn't be surprised if it was normal or I'm misunderstanding something, but lol. "We aren't sure in what way you're criminally responsible, but we're pretty sure you did *something* wrong so we're just gonna charge you with 3 mutually exclusive charges and see which one, if any, sticks."

    Probably just procedural lawyery stuff and obviously it's totally above board or the case wouldn't have proceeded, but it seems weird.

    ive actually hqd to deal with this many times. imagine delaing with it in the way i had to basically being charged for one thing multiple times. wat would u do?
  18. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    Originally posted by Donald Trump "How dare you notice and point out that you are being victimised. Man up and be an idiot. Suffer for no reason."

    what are u even suffering right now star trek?
  19. Originally posted by Data I told you not to thank my posts ever the fuck again.

    FUCK.

    no means yeas.
  20. Originally posted by Wariat what are u even suffering right now star trek?

    Mostly having to cope with awful posts I read on this forum.
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