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Chauvin is beyond fucked
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2021-04-01 at 8 PM UTC
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2021-04-02 at 5:20 AM UTCI'll write out something longer tomorrow but I kind of assume nobody really gives a shit what I think anyway. Or what anyone thinks for that matter.
I'm actually willing to change my mind on this case and have even found some footage of chauvin to almost make him seem like a decent guy.
I'm just gonna write this anyway because I feel like it.
I've watched about 12 hours total of the trial so far. I watched all of today and most of yesterday and then caught some of day 1 and 2 while I was at work.
I really dislike the female prosecutor, as I said earlier I wanted her to choke to death on her lunch break, not because shes a bad person just because shes really not prepared at all for being a prosecutor in one of the highest profile nationally televised cases of recent memory. I just hate her. Shes ruining things.
Shes not prepared. It sounds like her witnesses today werent prepared. It was just gross to watch. Fortunately for her, as shit of a job as she did, the prosecution still won today in my opinion.
There were four witnesses today, the 2 first arriving EMTs, the fire sergeant that arrived later and the police of chief.
Did anyone else watch it or am the only one here? :( maybe nobody really does care. :( -
2021-04-02 at 5:29 AM UTCFrankly I don't care. This is such a dumb fucking case. It was one guy last year and I just can't bring myself to give a solitary fuck about a single detail of this fucking bullshit case. I don't care if Chauvin faces justice. I don't care what anybody thinks of George Floyd. I just want to stop hearing their names because I'm sick of this cyclic media bullshit. The fact that this is STILL a topic of discussion is outrageous.
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2021-04-02 at 5:30 AM UTCFloyd could have fucked a child inside the CVS or whatever and Chauvin could have murdered some black man just 5 minutes before and I wouldn't fucking care. Everybody is going to forget about this like they forgot about I don't even remember because I forgot it.
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2021-04-02 at 5:30 AM UTCapril 37th 19993 there was a riot in the streem tell me where were u
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2021-04-02 at 5:31 AM UTCu were sitting home walking some anarhy welll i was park out in front smoking some anarchy
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2021-04-02 at 5:31 AM UTCfirst lick whe hit spot was the limor store i cinally got all that albehshol i afford
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2021-04-02 at 5:32 AM UTCnxt spot we hit window drop it only took one window to make that window drop
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2021-04-02 at 5:32 AM UTCFinally we got our own PA
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2021-04-02 at 5:32 AM UTChowdoyouthinkigotthisGAYTARthatimplannntodeif
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2021-04-02 at 5:47 AM UTCas a kid, I tried to buy some candy with monopoly money. and the old store owner grabbed my wrist really hard and said ¨Do you want to go to prison for this. this is counterfeit money you just passed off¨ and this other man was laughing and I started to cry. I told him I thought it was real money.
he let me go but took my monopoly money and taped it up above the register where I guess it was funny he put it with other fake bills taped up.
So On the way out, I turned off the light switch and bolted home. He was Iranian or some shit. -
2021-04-02 at 6:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by Kal Joose as a kid, I tried to buy some candy with monopoly money. and the old store owner grabbed my wrist really hard and said ¨Do you want to go to prison for this. this is counterfeit money you just passed off¨ and this other man was laughing and I started to cry. I told him I thought it was real money.
he let me go but took my monopoly money and taped it up above the register where I guess it was funny he put it with other fake bills taped up.
So On the way out, I turned off the light switch and bolted home. He was Iranian or some shit.
Onjection, relevance -
2021-04-02 at 10:10 AM UTC
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2021-04-02 at 10:23 AM UTC
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2021-04-02 at 11:47 AM UTCHere's a video of a police officer using a hostage as a human shield in a training exercise
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2021-04-02 at 11:58 AM UTCI've seen quite a few niggers on various social media platforms threatening mass violence if he isn't convicted.
Typical nigger mentality...we need more Chauvins to deal with these animals that think such threats have any bearing on their white masters. -
2021-04-02 at 3:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I've seen quite a few niggers on various social media platforms threatening mass violence if he isn't convicted.
Typical nigger mentality…we need more Chauvins to deal with these animals that think such threats have any bearing on their white masters.
clone him. -
2021-04-02 at 4:16 PM UTCedited for privacyThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2021-04-02 at 4:21 PM UTCIf I was a police officer I would shoot anyone that talked shit to me and I would take bribes from the mafia
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2021-04-02 at 7:35 PM UTCDerek Chauvin trial, day 5: Lieutenant calls use of force on George Floyd 'totally unnecessary'; first week of testimony ends
N'dea Yancey-Bragg, Grace Hauck, Eric Ferkenhoff, Tami Abdollah and Kevin McCoy, USA TODAY (edited for length)
MINNEAPOLIS — The first week of witness testimony in the trial of Derek Chauvin, charged with the murder of George Floyd, ended Friday afternoon with a veteran Minneapolis police officer who explained the training officers receive.
Lt. Richard Zimmerman told the court that kneeling on the neck of a suspect is potentially lethal and there is "absolutely" an obligation to provide medical intervention as soon as necessary. Zimmerman called Chauvin's use of force on Floyd “totally unnecessary."
“Holding him down to the ground face down and putting your knee on the neck for that amount of time, is just uncalled for," he said.
Chauvin is charged with second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. Floyd, who was Black, died in police custody after Chauvin, who is white, pinned his knee against Floyd’s neck for more than nine minutes.
Lt. Richard Zimmerman, the Minneapolis Police Department's most senior officer in years served, testified Friday about the training officers receive. He said he’d been trained on having suspects in the prone position, meaning face down, since 1985. He has never been trained to kneel on the neck of a suspect who is prone – as Floyd was while Chauvin subdued him from above.
"That would be the top level of force," said Zimmerman, who also characterized it as potentially lethal danger.
"Once a person is in handcuffed, you need to get them out of the prone position as soon as possible because it restricts their breathing," said Zimmerman. "If you're laying on your chest, that's constricting them (breathing muscles) even more."
He noted that Minneapolis police officers are trained to abide by their department’s use of force continuum, which involves constantly revaluating and adjusting the level of force used on a person, depending on the threat that’s posed. After a person is in handcuffs, "the threat level goes down all the way," Zimmerman said.
Police are first responders, which means they can perform cardio-pulmonary resuscitation, and attempt to revive someone who’s not breathing. Minneapolis officers are trained on it every other year or so, he said. There is "absolutely" an obligation to provide medical intervention as soon as necessary to an injured suspect before an ambulance arrives with paramedics, Zimmerman said.
Based on his review of police body camera videos of the struggle and subduing of Floyd, Zimmerman said Chauvin’s knee on Floyd’s neck was “totally unnecessary."
"I saw no reason why the officers felt they were in danger, if that’s what they felt, and that’s what they would have to feel to be able to use that kind of force," he testified.
The top-level restraint should have been stopped while Floyd was prone and no longer resisting, he said.
During the prosecution's re-questioning of Zimmerman, government lawyer Matthew Frank asked whether police training about potential dangers for a suspect held in the prone position had been adjusted over the years.
“That hasn’t changed,” said Zimmerman.
Citing his review of the police body camera videos, Zimmerman added that he did not see Floyd trying to kick Chauvin and other officers as he was held down.
Frank asked whether the bystanders watching the police struggle with Floyd posed an "uncontrollable threat" to the officers. Zimmerman said they did not.
"It doesn't matter – the crowd – as long as they're not attacking you," he said. "The crowd shouldn't have an effect on your actions."
Thursday ended with David Pleoger, a recently retired Minneapolis police officer who was responsible for reviewing officers' use of force, who testified for nearly an hour Thursday afternoon.
After receiving a call from 911 dispatcher Jena Scurry — who testified Monday and said she didn't mean to be a "snitch," but that she had seen what happened to Floyd —Pleoger said he called Chauvin on his cellphone.
Much of the conversation was not recorded because Chauvin turned off his body camera, as allowed per policy. Pleoger said Chauvin told him restraint was used, Floyd suffered a medical emergency and they had called an ambulance. Pleoger told the court he didn’t think Chauvin told him that it was him who had held Floyd down or that he had placed a knee on Floyd’s neck.
“Would you agree that a person may be restrained only to the degree necessary to keep them under control,” Schleicher asked.
"Yes and no more restraint,” Pleoger said.
Schleicher also asked when the restraint of Floyd should have ended.
Pleoger replied, "When Mr. Floyd was no longer offering up any resistance to the officers, they could have ended their restraint."The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
