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Alcohol withdrawal. Pain
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2021-01-25 at 1:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by Misguided Russian I don't think you understand how alcoholic genes work. Why is it that natives in both Russia and the u.s. are so susceptible to alcoholism? Because they don't have the proper genes to metabolize the stuff as readily. I can drink a bottle a day for a month and abruptly stop without shaking hands or any of that. People with real alcoholism drink themselves to the point where they have to tie a towel around their neck/hand to bring the first glass of the day to their mouth without spilling it from the shaking.
That is not how it works. The genes you're talking about effect metabolization in the liver via certain CYP450 enzymes and alcohol dehydrogenase enzymes. It doesn't magically make alcohol more/less addictive. Absolutely nobody on Earth has genes that make them immune to the effects of alcohol withdrawal, doesn't matter how efficacious your liver is. For people who don't have this gene, it mostly just means they get drunker and have more of a flushed face due to the toxic byproducts of inefficient metabolization that basically everyone has when consuming more than 1-2 drinks per hour. The alcohol you consume after that point is a little more 'potent' because of this.
SO AS YOU SEE, the genes have absolutely nothing to do with alcohol's addictive properties. That all goes on upstairs and is unaffected by what goes on in your liver. If you drink long term, you're going to have withdrawal effects eventually. It's inevitable. Don't think you can't get all shaky when you're an old man. It's not even just from the withdrawal that shit can be a neurological issue caused by the alcohol as well. (Protip: take vitamin B if you're an alcoholic)
Also the people who have the CYP450 enzyme mutations (mostly redheads and Scandinavians) are kinda fucked sometimes when it comes to other substances since CYP450 enzymes are responsible for metabolizing almost all of the drugs. Lots of people notice it with opiates. -
2021-01-26 at 12:21 AM UTC
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2021-01-27 at 12:05 AM UTCor just be alcohol secure.
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2021-01-27 at 3:15 AM UTCOlanzapine helped me just now. Got rid of all withdrawals but couldn't wake up for 2 days.
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2021-01-27 at 2:06 PM UTC
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2021-02-14 at 4:12 AM UTC
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2021-02-14 at 4:13 AM UTC
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2021-02-14 at 4:40 AM UTC
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2021-02-14 at 4:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby get some gabapentin
my kraut/spic friend always tried to get me to take those. he swore by it and he's pretty smart when it comes to pharmacology
would've got a degree but they caught him selling some kind of rare version of 4 methylaminorex on campus. they dropped the charges when it tested negative for meth or any other illegal substance. if not for the side effects, 4mar could probably help a lot of people quit drinking -
2021-02-14 at 5:24 AM UTC
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2021-02-14 at 5:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Kuntzschutz my kraut/spic friend always tried to get me to take those. he swore by it and he's pretty smart when it comes to pharmacology
would've got a degree but they caught him selling some kind of rare version of 4 methylaminorex on campus. they dropped the charges when it tested negative for meth or any other illegal substance. if not for the side effects, 4mar could probably help a lot of people quit drinking
i got prescribed again for gabapentin last week and its helped me a lot quit drinking and actually sleeping, Id been of off it for two years and I should of gone to a doctor sooner but finnaly did again, its a pretty benign drug you can get high off of it but you can't overdose on it, but I'm just taking it because it actually helps me out at the prescribed dose -
2021-02-14 at 8:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby i got prescribed again for gabapentin last week and its helped me a lot quit drinking and actually sleeping, Id been of off it for two years and I should of gone to a doctor sooner but finnaly did again, its a pretty benign drug you can get high off of it but you can't overdose on it, but I'm just taking it because it actually helps me out at the prescribed dose
im not an alcoholic but i tried gabbies before and it made me feel unsteady and drunk without the nausea or hangovers, pretty neat. it makes sense if this is used for alcohol detox. -
2021-02-14 at 7:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby i got prescribed again for gabapentin last week and its helped me a lot quit drinking and actually sleeping, Id been of off it for two years and I should of gone to a doctor sooner but finnaly did again, its a pretty benign drug you can get high off of it but you can't overdose on it, but I'm just taking it because it actually helps me out at the prescribed dose
Lol you retard.
Causes seizures in high doses and can 'unlock them' for people who abuse it.
ya but sure no respiratory depression so its totally safe just like benzos amirite -
2021-02-14 at 7:49 PM UTCAnyone who takes drug advice from Bill Krozby deserves seizures honestly
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2021-02-14 at 8:48 PM UTC
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2021-02-15 at 1:08 AM UTC
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2021-02-15 at 1:39 AM UTCBest thing is gonna be Valium, with lorazepam to sleep.
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2021-02-15 at 1:45 AM UTC