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Can you get your head around the vastness of nothing?
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2020-11-14 at 1:07 AM UTCITT: Captain Falcon makes new disciples of Allah.
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2020-11-14 at 7:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Non sequitur…
a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
His statement did not logically follow mine…as as stated…my personal existence has no bearing on whether nothing exits or not…stick to selling lotto cards Sabu.
Again, not how non sequitur works.
"Sam is a man therefore Sam has a helicopter" is a non sequitur because the second statement is in no way implicit from the first.
That's what "does or does not logically follow" means. Not that you don't like what someone said.
Literally every time you have ever said has been an actual non sequitur. You just have very low intelligence and this is both a frequent demonstration and absolute proof, you are just a moron.
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2020-11-14 at 9:52 AM UTC
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2020-11-14 at 12:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Time is just irrelevant, there is no "point in time" where the number 1 "began to exist". It is just a fact. In the same way Allah simply exists. There's no "time before Allah".
He couldn't have always existed tho. I mean if he did then why did he wait until now to create us, the earth and the universe. Why didnt he just create it 999 million gazillion fillion kazillion years ago? Why sit there all that time plus millions of times that amount of time before that just not creating it all? Sounds like a pretty boring bloke, definitely undeserving of your obedience and worship.
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2020-11-14 at 1:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE It doesn't logically follow from nothing not existing that something needs a nothing to begin.
If nothing did exist and then turned into something then you would ask how something came from nothing.
Nothing not existing directly supports something always existing, and existence not needing an "origin". Things can simply be.
Originally posted by Narc People just assume that gods exist
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2020-11-14 at 2:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Incorrect.
All you have is faith in the supposed elementary operations producing something reliable. For example literally no single human or even team of humans understands the entire logic of a modern chip. Most of it computer aided and there are many AI designed components. We trust them because they are literally better than us at Math.
no its not. people at intel and amd factories actually DO understand the logic of modern chips, thats how they make them work and what theyre being paid to do. AI can assist what human want them to do but at the end of the day these AIs still do what humans want them to do according to humans logics and understanding to achieve what humans want.Similarly Deep Blue was designed by a guy who didn't know that much about Chess and beat the best guy in the world at Chess. It's not checking shit against human calculations. It's surpassing the best human calculations by bounds totally insurmountable for us.
he understood the laws of how human chess was played. that will suffice. at the end of the day AIs and computers are still doing what humans want them to do according to humans way of thinking, albeit at a faster rate.That's not how anal logies work
yes it is. the anal logies you knew and performed with your uncles were actually child abuse. -
2020-11-14 at 2:51 PM UTC
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2020-11-14 at 3:02 PM UTCThe secret is time doesn't actually exist. The past, the present, and the future all run in parallel, not in sequence. The only reason we see and sense time is because we are unable to experience the entire stream, only a single current of it. Time is merely perception.
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2020-11-14 at 3:09 PM UTCActually, there's only one instant, and it's right now, and it's eternity. And it's an instant in which God is posing a question, and that question is basically, 'Do you wanna, you know, be one with eternity, do you want to be in heaven?' And, we're all saying, 'Nooo thank you, not just yet.' And so time is actually just this constant saying 'No' to God's invitation. That's what time is. There's just this one instant, and that's what we're always in. And this is the narrative of everyone's life. Behind the phenomenal difference there is but one story, and that's the story of moving from the 'No' to the 'Yes.' All of life is like, 'No thank you, No thank you, No thank you.' And then, ultimately, it's, 'Yes I give in, Yes I accept, Yes I embrace.' That's the journey. Everyone gets to the 'Yes' in the end.
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2020-11-14 at 3:13 PM UTCIf you were able to experience the whole of the timestream, you would literally exist and function at every millisecond simultaneously. So you would experience yourself as a baby, and also experience yourself as a toddler, and you would also experience yourself as a teenager, and you would also experience yourself as an adult, and you would also experience yourself as geriatric, and every moment in between, all at the same time.
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2020-11-14 at 3:24 PM UTCEverything that we know and believe has ever happened, began last Thursday. We never lived as babies, or had actual childhoods. There were never dinosaurs, or the sinking of the Titanic, or ancient Egyptian slaves who built pyramids. All of our lives started 2 days ago, and everything that we know and believe as the past, never actually happened. It's all in our minds. This cannot be disproven.
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2020-11-14 at 3:42 PM UTC"Therefore they will be like the morning mist, and like the dew that passes away early, like the chaff that is driven with the whirlwind out of the threshing floor, and like the smoke out of the chimney." ~ Hosea
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2020-11-14 at 5:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc He couldn't have always existed tho. I mean if he did then why did he wait until now to create us, the earth and the universe. Why didnt he just create it 999 million gazillion fillion kazillion years ago?
What difference does it make to someone who always existed? Maybe he just played Nintendo or did some other shit for the rest of the time. There's infinite time so independent and unrelated events can just be interchanged however you want. It makes no difference.Why sit there all that time plus millions of times that amount of time before that just not creating it all? Sounds like a pretty boring bloke, definitely undeserving of your obedience and worship.
How do you know this is the only thing that ever existed? It's just the only thing you CAN know exists, same way the tip of your finger can never touch itself. Could have been doing crack for eternity before that. -
2020-11-14 at 5:23 PM UTCAll of our reality is merely a series of electronic and chemical impulses. Nothing more.
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2020-11-14 at 10:20 PM UTC
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2020-11-14 at 10:48 PM UTC
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2020-11-15 at 12:10 PM UTC
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2020-11-15 at 3:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Cool post to come back to, but you are wrong for a cool reason: there are 200 Trillion stars in the Milky Way. If we spent 1 hour exploring every star system, it would take us hundreds of billions of years to explore just the Milky Way and milk its tits completely. And there are 200 billion galaxies in the observable universe. So no. Even if they were ultra smart and can travel vast distances, we are kinda easy to miss. Even our entire light cone for radio waves is only what like 120 years? So 120 lightyears? The Milky Way's radius is 52,850 LY. And our ping signals are likely washed out by unquantifiable interstellar noise.
Yeah I suppose. I guess like you said it's all determinate on the vastness of space. Makes sense since we haven't explored all of our own stupid planet yet. I'd still like to think that if there were an alien civilization twenty billion years more advanced than us, that despite our relative tinyness or insignificance to them, they'd still have invented the technology to effectively scan the entire universe like a UAV and noticed us, and at least thrown us a bone so to speak, as if to say, 'yeah you are nothing to us and insignificant as fuck, but we, being as intelligent as we are, realize you are likely curious about our potential existence as you've not yet come to realize it, and so here is a definitive sign and inconclusive evidence that we are out there. Oh and also we still like cheeseburgers too and if you want to come visit us, hop on this flying saucer. 💗."
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2020-11-15 at 3:25 PM UTCI wonder if they have McDonald's on other planets.
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2020-11-15 at 3:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL I wonder if they have McDonald's on other planets.
I like to think that there's at least one similar version of everything we have, out there on other planets, somewhere. You might have to travel 100 trillion+ light years away but goddamnit you will find yourself a McDonald's.
