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Why dont you get a fucking job dude?
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2017-03-12 at 5:15 AM UTC
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2017-03-12 at 5:20 AM UTCSpiceroy joins the workforce
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2017-03-12 at 1:31 PM UTC
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2017-03-12 at 1:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Dearth I don't know what American welfare is like or the social shame that comes with it, from what I'm reading here; but over here like, I'm a musician. I don't have any delusions of fame, or even just success. I get by fine on our equivalent of welfare and pretty much just hang out with other musos, making tunes. The general outlook between us is that it's not a big deal that we don't want to work. Unless your career is your life it seems a little insane to spend a big chunk of your short time on the planet making money for someone else, if you can get by and be happy with what you make on welfare.
I'm more than comfortable to let others spend that time and pay taxes so I can enjoy myself.
Life was tailor made for our refreshment you dig?
you know where that money comes from that pays for your welfare, right? from people that actually work and are productive membets of the community...instead of parasites such as yourself that have no use whatsoever. the fact that your comfortable in this situation makes you even more despisable.
a few centuries ago you would have been banished from the village. a few centuries before that...you would have been butchered and used as sustenance for the other tribesman to make your useless self slightly less useless.
what shithouse country are you in?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-03-12 at 1:51 PM UTC$7 a hour won't feed ma dog!
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2017-03-12 at 1:55 PM UTC
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2017-03-12 at 3:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock you know where that money comes from that pays for your welfare, right? from people that actually work and are productive membets of the community…instead of parasites such as yourself that have no use whatsoever. the fact that your comfortable in this situation makes you even more despisable.
a few centuries ago you would have been banished from the village. a few centuries before that…you would have been butchered and used as sustenance for the other tribesman to make your useless self slightly less useless.
what shithouse country are you in?
It's part-excuse, but I definitely don't attach a moral weight to the whole ordeal, a sense of universal morality just drags you down. Hence, no guilt or shame for me thanks.
I don't exactly plan on staying in this occidental nightmare country (Australia) for too long, as I don't agree with the majority of the stances and policies that are enforced here, so I'm making the most of it for the time being. The majority of first world westerners make me sick, so I'm fine with my actions; there are much bigger social problems plaguing this variety of society, to the point where if I weren't doing this, it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway.
tl:dr, you have the gall to assume your way of life is the 'correct' way of life and I have no qualm in sucking up your hard earned cash. Go figureThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-03-12 at 4:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Dearth tl:dr, you have the gall to assume your way of life is the 'correct' way of life and I have no qualm in sucking up your hard earned cash. Go figure
Listen you socialist, there is a difference between having an opinion IE "My way of life is better than yours" and having the government COERCE money out of people to give to you. Guess what happens when a person doesn't pay taxes? They get a letter, guess what happens when they ignore the letter? They send goons with guns over, guess what happens if you resist these goons? You get shot to death.
So if you have the gall to assume you have the right to indirectly threaten "PAY or DEATH". Then really, you are a horrible person. -
2017-03-12 at 4:22 PM UTC
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2017-03-12 at 4:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Listen you socialist, there is a difference between having an opinion IE "My way of life is better than yours" and having the government COERCE money out of people to give to you. Guess what happens when a person doesn't pay taxes? They get a letter, guess what happens when they ignore the letter? They send goons with guns over, guess what happens if you resist these goons? You get shot to death.
So if you have the gall to assume you have the right to indirectly threaten "PAY or DEATH". Then really, you are a horrible person.
Hahah, definitely not on any wavelength like that, it's more I like to think I'm taking advantage of this convenient situation.
'shit, they're just giving money away, I'd be an idiot to pass it up, and these people would be paying tax regardless'
Chances of me ever making enough money to pay tax anyway are pretty low, that way of life just isn't a priority to me right now.
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2017-03-12 at 4:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Sure i can shitpost on the clock all day.
Also, this^, I'm glad you enjoy yourself, which is the bottom line. What do you do if you don't mind me asking, not that it matters because-
Originally posted by infinityshock then get a real job.
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2017-03-12 at 4:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Dearth Hahah, definitely not on any wavelength like that,
But it's exactly like that. The beginning of wisdom is calling things by their proper name. Taxation is theft at the threat of violence, if you're on the receiving end of getting tax money and you're ok with it, that says something about your moral character.
Originally posted by Dearth I'm no socialist, but rampant capitalism makes me sick, and the way it's cultured consumerism type ideals
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2017-03-12 at 4:36 PM UTCCapitalism made me eat 16 zimmies and puke on my dick
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2017-03-12 at 4:36 PM UTC
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2017-03-12 at 4:40 PM UTCYour an astronaut?.
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2017-03-12 at 4:41 PM UTC
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2017-03-12 at 5:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie But it's exactly like that. The beginning of wisdom is calling things by their proper name. Taxation is theft at the threat of violence, if you're on the receiving end of getting tax money and you're ok with it, that says something about your moral character.
What is rampant capitalism, in your opinion.
Fair point; I'd be the first to say I'm of an amoral stance somewhat, with my values resembling those of my peers (and these values being for lack of a better word, relative). Were I to adopt a code of universal morality, taxation would still be very low on my list compared to the global atrocities that are currently in motion, easily preventable famine and disease being an example of higher priority. With this in mind, I'd still collect on welfare, just to put it towards those issues, and still not pay tax, knowing that this country is definitely well provided for.
That being said, I'm no philanthropist, instead I'm selfish, lazy and personally motivated. And it's not just me, this is a common symptom in our society, and it's going to take change to fix those bigger issues, and while I don't know how it's going to happen, it'll either happen or bust.
Though right now it's much easier to justify my actions with a cringy little 'beyond good and evil' spiel.
Imo, rampant capitalism reared its head with the marketing of 'the American dream' or maybe soon after.
Thrown into overdrive by internet culture, I'd say rampant capitalism preys on a mixture of well known social insecurities, and 'Rand'ian individualism. It's pretty much the idea that 'if you're not successful by x standards ('x' maybe being money or influence), you're nothing.
It's a pressure that the world could do without.
All the same, I'm really just a dumb kid with a tendency to justify things, and I respect your opinion Soph, so feel free to point out where you think I'm being a douchebag and point me in the right direction :v
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2017-03-12 at 5:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Dearth Fair point; I'd be the first to say I'm of an amoral stance somewhat, with my values resembling those of my peers (and these values being for lack of a better word, relative). Were I to adopt a code of universal morality, taxation would still be very low on my list compared to the global atrocities that are currently in motion, easily preventable famine and disease being an example of higher priority. With this in mind, I'd still collect on welfare, just to put it towards those issues, and still not pay tax, knowing that this country is definitely well provided for.
That being said, I'm no philanthropist, instead I'm selfish, lazy and personally motivated. And it's not just me, this is a common symptom in our society, and it's going to take change to fix those bigger issues, and while I don't know how it's going to happen, it'll either happen or bust.
Though right now it's much easier to justify my actions with a cringy little 'beyond good and evil' spiel.
Imo, rampant capitalism reared its head with the marketing of 'the American dream' or maybe soon after.
Thrown into overdrive by internet culture, I'd say rampant capitalism preys on a mixture of well known social insecurities, and Randian individualism. It's pretty much the idea that 'if you're not successful by x standards ('x' maybe being money or influence), you're nothing.
It's a pressure that the world could do without.
All the same, I'm really just a dumb kid with a tendency to justify things, and I respect your opinion Soph, so feel free to point out where you think I'm being a douchebag and point me in the right direction :v
I like you. At least you realize the truth of your situation. I have a nice analogy, i can respect evil that knows it's evil, the evil which cloaks itself in a facade of benevolence is the true insidious kind. Not that i am saying you are evil per say, like i said it's an analogy. Also, moral relativism, i don't subscribe to that line of thought.
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2017-03-12 at 6:06 PM UTCThanks Soph, I dig you too. That is a nice analogy, it's kind of Hyatt-esque (Christopher Hyatt)
Originally posted by Sophie Also, i don't think it's a a failure inherent to capitalism that people want to pursue what you describe as "The American Dream", i would say it is a failure inherent to the state.
I'll agree on that, I guess I've really got beef with ideals of consumerism when I think about it.
What sort of moral code are you aligned to? (If you can be bothered saying)
