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Technologist: let's have a 'constructive conversation about systemic racism'
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2020-07-23 at 2:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Sherri,
Glad you stepped up when I pussied out. You are so much more articulate than I am, so Iâm enjoying watching this conversation.
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đ„° I have a lot to learn but I am educating myself continuously. This isn't something that is going to go away as it has in the past.
My company I work for is actively involved and this is something we discuss daily. I'm hopeful for change. It's time! Xo -
2020-07-23 at 2:52 AM UTCvictimized whites are the biggest cuckold faggots on the planet now
How the once mighty united states devolved into camps of people who find everything offensive and another camp that's feels threatened by other people.
Fuck your country is weak and shitty now and the whole world knows it lol -
2020-07-23 at 2:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo victimized whites are the biggest cuckold faggots on the planet now
How the once mighty united states devolved into camps of people who find everything offensive and another camp that's feels threatened by other people.
Fuck your country is weak and shitty now and the whole world knows it lol
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2020-07-23 at 3 AM UTCWatch the 13th on Netflix if you haven't already. I started watching it last night... it's raw and deep. It explains the current system but goes back to even the 80s. Very powerful and no one can discredit the truth set in this because we live it every day.
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2020-07-23 at 3:01 AM UTC
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2020-07-23 at 3:02 AM UTC
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2020-07-23 at 3:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by Daddyissues This isn't broad at all if you can exponentially say that blacks are not represented the same as white people.
Not now, not then, not ever. Regardless of history, is this not systemic to you?
This is years and years of constant systematic and macro agression aggression towards the black community.
I suppose I don't understand why the fact that two different groups aren't represented the same points to racism. If two things are different it would be odd to expect the same narratives around them. Are the narratives about jedis and whites the same?
Originally posted by Daddyissues Just think for a minute, (this is truly hard because we have never been oppressed as a white community), if our people as a whole were portrayed by the media and society as criminals and "less than".
Whites or portrayed not only by media, but also the education system, as the villains of world history. Everything bad is our fault, and we must atone for our sins the way no other ethnic group is expected to.
I think blacks get off comparatively lightly with their media portrayal, which over emphasizes white on black violence (ie, George Floyd) while de-emphasizing black on white violence (about as common numerically, despite the much smaller number of black americans in total).
Originally posted by Daddyissues Which we can agree that the black community has this stigma and has for their entire lives. Correct?
I agree. But looking at the crime rates - is it really whiteys fault they have some bad press? -
2020-07-23 at 3:10 AM UTC
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2020-07-23 at 3:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by rabbitweed I suppose I don't understand why the fact that two different groups aren't represented the same points to racism. If two things are different it would be odd to expect the same narratives around them. Are the narratives about jedis and whites the same?
Whites or portrayed not only by media, but also the education system, as the villains of world history. Everything bad is our fault, and we must atone for our sins the way no other ethnic group is expected to.
I think blacks get off comparatively lightly with their media portrayal, which over emphasizes white on black violence (ie, George Floyd) while de-emphasizing black on white violence (about as common numerically, despite the much smaller number of black americans in total).
I agree. But looking at the crime rates - is it really whiteys fault they have some bad press?
I'm not going to quote each response as you did like its a separate issue because at the end of the day... its not.
Why aren't we the same? Because of the systemic racism... that's why.
You answered the entire question to your thread in one response.
The fact that YOU are separating us still in your responses soeaks to this very issue.
Why aren't blacks represented the sane as whites?
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2020-07-23 at 3:16 AM UTC
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2020-07-23 at 3:18 AM UTCAnd I'm not giving you links to read etc.. this is cold truth. We don't need to seek for answers on this issue because at the end of the day, we all know the truth.
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2020-07-23 at 3:20 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo NO SHIT
Look how offended you got by misunderstanding the generalities of my post and taking it personal. THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERIKKKA
No it's not. You didn't think my reply was sarcasm so you continued to try and mansplain problema in America. I'm with you. I was agreeing with you ffs. -
2020-07-23 at 3:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by rabbitweed Whites or portrayed not only by media, but also the education system, as the villains of world history. Everything bad is our fault, and we must atone for our sins the way no other ethnic group is expected to.
This victim shit lolz
You pussy whites make me fuckin sick.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-07-23 at 3:27 AM UTC
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2020-07-23 at 3:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by rabbitweed Great, thanks for outlining your theory.
Is there anything you might point to as evidence? (Canadian statistics are fine). For example, the rate of black arrests in Canada being higher than the white arrest rate. You might know where to find this info better than me.
The living standard of indigenous peoples in Canada falls far short of those of the non-indigenous, and they, along with other 'visible minorities' remain, as a group, the poorest in Canada. There continue to be barriers to gaining equality with other Canadians of European ancestry. The life expectancy of First Nations people is lower; they have less high school graduates, much higher unemployment rates, nearly double the number of infant deaths and significantly greater contact with law enforcement. Their incomes are lower, they enjoy fewer promotions in the workplace and as a group the younger members are more likely to work reduced hours or weeks each year.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140227153229/http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/communities/reports/poverty_profile/snapshot.shtml
https://journals.library.ualberta.ca/csp/index.php/csp/article/view/15961
https://doi.org/10.25336/P6KK7S
Many in Europe during the 19th century, (as reflected in the Imperial Report of the Select Committee on Aborigines), supported the goal put forth by colonial imperialists of 'civilizing' the Native populations. This led to an emphasis on the acquisition of Aboriginal lands in exchange for the putative benefits of European society and their associated Christian religions. British control of Canada (the Crown) began when they exercised jurisdiction over the first nations and it was by Royal Proclamation that the first piece of legislation the British government passed over First Nations citizens assumed control of their lives. It gave recognition to the Indians tribes as First Nations living under Crown protection.
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0719060036
In 1867, the British North America Act made land reserved for Indians a Crown responsibility. In 1876 the first of many Indian Acts passed, each successive one leeched more from the rights of the indigenous as was stated in the first. The sundry revised Indian Acts (22 times by 2002) solidified the position of Natives as wards of the state, and Indian agents were given discretionary power to control almost every aspect of the lives of the indigenous. It then became necessary to have permission from an Indian agent if Native people wanted to sell crops they had grown and harvested, or wear traditional clothes off the reserves. The Indian Act was also used to deny Indians the right to vote until 1960, and they could not sit on juries.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/
http://firstpeoplesofcanada.com/fp_treaties/john_fp33_indianact.html
In 1885 General Middleton after defeating the Metis rebellion introduced the Pass System in western Canada, under which Natives could not leave their reserves without first obtaining a pass from their farming instructors permitting them to do so. While the Indian Act did not give him such powers, and no other legislation allowed the Department of Indian Affairs to institute such a system, and it was known by crown lawyers to be illegal as early as 1892, the Pass System remained in place and was enforced until the early 1930s. As Natives were not permitted at that time to become lawyers, they could not fight it in the courts. Thus was institutional racism externalized as official policy.
http://www.rupertsland.org/metis-homeland/
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/non-linked/The-Metis-question-291731281.html
https://books.google.com/books?id=PJK85K3WjsAC&pg=PA255
https://books.google.com/books?id=STR1AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT1496
When Aboriginals began to press for recognition of their rights and to complain of corruption and abuses of power within the Indian department, the Act was amended to make it an offence for an Aboriginal person to retain a lawyer for the purpose of advancing any claims against the crown.
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2020-07-23 at 3:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Daddyissues I'm not going to quote each response as you did like its a separate issue because at the end of the day… its not.
Why aren't we the same? Because of the systemic racism… that's why.
But that logic doesn't scale, does it?
Japanese aren't the same as white Americans either. Unless you think that's systematic racism.
Originally posted by Daddyissues You answered the entire question to your thread in one response.
The fact that YOU are separating us still in your responses soeaks to this very issue.
There's no other way to discuss the question.
Originally posted by Daddyissues Why aren't blacks represented the sane as whites?
Tell me in Lehman terms.
One reason is because they don't - as an aggregate - behave the same. -
2020-07-23 at 3:37 AM UTCBut see even there he asked for the black arrests in Canada being higher etc..
That's the exact topic. The arrest records of blacks is going to be higher because that is what is tallied. That is what we look at when we establish value.
That is what has brought this whole thing to life. Look at the George floyd arrest. Did he deserve to be handled like he was or arrested even because someone called the cops and said he used a counterfeit bill (which he didn't btw).
If that were a white man who committed that same act, (many of them have done much worse), would the consequences be the same?
Nope. As a white privilege whole we all know the answer to that.
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2020-07-23 at 3:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by rabbitweed But that logic doesn't scale, does it?
Japanese aren't the same as white Americans either. Unless you think that's systematic racism.
There's no other way to discuss the question.
One reason is because they don't - as an aggregate - behave the same.
They don't behave the same because of SYSTEMATIC RACISM. THEY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BEING LESS THAN... BEING SHOWN THEY ARE LESS THAN BY SOCIETY. -
2020-07-23 at 3:44 AM UTCNow.. the only way this will end is not because of the white community. We cannot take that credit. They will need to continue their civil war against not only the government, but their own. I stand behind Candace Owens views on blacks keeping themselves oppressed but I also believe they have a duty to continue their fight to equal rights.
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2020-07-23 at 3:50 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
